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[Get Real!]

I hate to burst your bubble lads but since when can a European Commissioner for EU enlargement dictate which ports are valid or invalid? He doesn’t even have the authority to do that in his own country Finland let alone another.

We need to keep in mind that everyone is entitled to an opinion and Olli Rehn was doing just that and that’s as far as it’s going!

The only authorities that can declare what constitutes a port are the Cyprus Ports Authority:

http://www.cpa.gov.cy/ArxiLimenon/page. ... &langID=13

…and perhaps the International Maritime Organization:

http://www.imo.org/HOME.html

...all in accordance with international law.

Regards, GR.

[humanist]

Oh darn GR .... you mean I can't land @ Erkan on my next visit to my country

[shahmaran]

Its Ercan.

[Get Real!]

Oh darn GR .... you mean I can't land @ Erkan on my next visit to my country

Yiasou Antrea how are you?

Afraid not... you can't land that shoddy makeshift flying raft of yours anywhere near the Tymbou airport without getting your arse kicked by Spartans...

[observer]

Unless someone can show me otherwise, I think that the IMO have no way of declaring a port illegal or legal. So they haven't made use of Famagusta port illegal.
It's possible, although unlikely under current circumstances, for the EU as a body to declare a port illegal, but they haven't done so.
It is illegal under RoC law to use Famagusta, but anyone using it could only be prosecuted in an RoC Court.

[Get Real!]

Unless someone can show me otherwise, I think that the IMO have no way of declaring a port illegal or legal. So they haven't made use of Famagusta port illegal.
It's possible, although unlikely under current circumstances, for the EU as a body to declare a port illegal, but they haven't done so.
It is illegal under RoC law to use Famagusta, but anyone using it could only be prosecuted in an RoC Court.

You’ll find that the premier authority when it comes to borders, ports, etc is the UN which subsequently grants authority to the recognized authorities of the respective countries and relevant international organizations under which the countries are members of.

The same goes for prosecutions; try the International Court of Justice at...

http://www.icj-cij.org/

[observer]

An impressive list of authorities, but unless you can show me where they have said it, I believe I am right in saying that no international authority has made the use of Famagusta port illegal.

[Get Real!]

An impressive list of authorities, but unless you can show me where they have said it, I believe I am right in saying that no international authority has made the use of Famagusta port illegal.

The Cyprus Ports Authority may have declared the port as "closed" and that would stand as far as international law is concerned but the fact that the RoC hasn’t yet prosecuted Turkey over this doesn’t make it legal for Turkey to violate international rules.

Have a look at the first entry under “Latest decisions” here for an example of two countries fighting something similar out ... (Nicaragua v. Colombia)

http://www.icj-cij.org/homepage/index.php?lang=en

[observer]

Have a look at the first entry under “Latest decisions” here for an example of two countries fighting something similar out ... (Nicaragua v. Colombia)

http://www.icj-cij.org/homepage/index.php?lang=en

I've only read the document quickly, but it seems to concern a maritime boundary dispute, such as might be between Greece and Turkey in the Aegean. It doesn't seem to say anything about closing ports.

My guess is that the RoC has not taken Turkey (or anyone else) before the IMO is because no international mechanism exists to declare a port illegal. As I originally said.

Can you quote any international authority that has declared Famagusta an illegal port?

[Viewpoint]

Little by little this situation will resolve itself.