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The first phase of the Turkish invasion lasted from 20 to 30 July. The Greeks, dazed and disorganised by the coup, nevertheless managed to confine the Turkish forces to a fairly small space, and when the cease-fire came, had some cause for pride. In mid August there were negotiations, in Geneva, at which Turkey proposed major changes in the constitutional relations between the island's two communities, a much greater geographical separation of Turks from Greeks, and a weaker central government than had been agreed in 1960. The Greeks made counter-proposals, but the Turks' reply, in effect, was, 'Take it or leave it.' The Greeks asked for forty-eight hours to reconsider the Turkish proposals, but this was refused. The conference broke up at 3:00 a.m. on 14 August, and at 4:30 a.m. Turkey restarted military operations, the 'second round', as it came to be called.

You said in the past turkey asked for a return to the constitution and the gcs refused...I asked you for proof and none came...and here we are...

Well it confirmed that turkey was after ground and nothing more...

Amazing how you pick and chose what you want to believe as being the whole truth Just because there is no mention here does not make it so...This is a Greek site don't forget.... EVEN IF they didn't.....The situation was such that the constitution was negated by Makarios long before so the claims should have been accepted but instead counter claims were made so what does that tell you. What were the Greeks after.

Are we suppose now not believe what you posted?

Fuck man make up your own mind...You present a document and I asked the question...When did "turkey" asked for the return of the constitution...So far you are confirming to me she didn't...

You even thanked T_C for saying something about cantons...was that a return to the original constitution?

Boomers...I am trying to accomodate you in every way that I can...Seeing how you just want to believe the propaganda crap that you have been taught and are so resistant to the truth then I will give you examples of what might have happened so you can take he truth in small doses.........You can say thank you when ever you are ready

Let me get this right Zan...how on earth is aking you a question be considered propaganda

You post an article, I ask a question out of your article, then you blame me for asking a question?...strooth...

How about for once answer the question that has been asked from you several times...

when did "turkey" asked for a return to the constitution

come on spit it out man...its a straight forward question...either you know or you don't...can't get simpler than that...

PS...asking a question Zan is not considered propaganda...but not answering a question out of your article is...get it right man...

I told you several times Boomers...What the hell are you on.....When the first cease fire came...Is that the answer you want....Oh! you want proof..... Tell me what source you will accept my proof from so I can be sure that you will not turn me away.........Makarios did not want the Zurich agreement returned to in it's entirety, even after what had happened so the negotiations started straight away as to what is acceptable and that has been going on since then...What more [roof do you want than history it self


I will tell you what is propaganda though and that is repeating that Turkey ethnically cleansed you from your homes and not acknowledging the other factors that brought them in....Except for keep harping on about wanting the land that they already had

Are you dreaming or what...What source?...you never quoted any source...The last time you said you were gonna dig it out and you never did...all we have is your word, and I am afraid, no offence, ain't good enough...

Just one source...will do...

what we have so far is an extract from the article you posted which contradicts what you're saying now...here it is again...your source, your post...

The first phase of the Turkish invasion lasted from 20 to 30 July. The Greeks, dazed and disorganised by the coup, nevertheless managed to confine the Turkish forces to a fairly small space, and when the cease-fire came, had some cause for pride. In mid August there were negotiations, in Geneva, at which Turkey proposed major changes in the constitutional relations between the island's two communities, a much greater geographical separation of Turks from Greeks, and a weaker central government than had been agreed in 1960.. The Greeks made counter-proposals, but the Turks' reply, in effect, was, 'Take it or leave it.' The Greeks asked for forty-eight hours to reconsider the Turkish proposals, but this was refused. The conference broke up at 3:00 a.m. on 14 August, and at 4:30 a.m. Turkey restarted military operations, the 'second round', as it came to be called.

and further more

I will tell you what is propaganda though and that is repeating that Turkey ethnically cleansed you from your homes and not acknowledging the other factors that brought them in....Except for keep harping on about wanting the land that they already had

Are you calling Ethnic cleansing propaganda now?...They were the guarantor power...they had no right to ethnic cleansing...

Mate you are not on the sauce by any chance?

You then go and scream and shout and shit your pants when eric_dayi comes on and tells you that the GCs tried to genocide the TCs in 1963 to 74

I am still trying to find a source for your quote that you will not jump down my throat on and have a go at the source rather than the content as you usually do. I am afraid that I have not found one hat will shut you up so I am willing to take the stick for saying it ....So far....Don't worry though....I am still looking.

You are still refusing o look at he evidence of the facts of history though.....Turkey acted as a guarantor power and with that the restoring of the constitution was paramount, if there was one to restore. There turns out here wasn't and the threat of ENOSIS was still there and thae fact that Makarios would not let the Zurich agreement back in it's entirety was also there. Are you denying these facts???????If not then why is the "RoC" not pushing this as here goal...Why will they not just say they want to return to this agreement????

Man what does ricco the clown has got to do with the price of fish... actually your whole post...

I just a asked a simple question and I quoted you from your own article that contradicts what ever you are trying to say...Let me remind you once more...You posted an article and I asked a simple question...

You are beating around the bush Zan...

Ok atleast you admitted you haven't got one even though its staring right in the face in the article you posted...

PS...From now on, anything you post we shouldn't believe, because you don't believe what you are posting in the first place...

[zan]

The first phase of the Turkish invasion lasted from 20 to 30 July. The Greeks, dazed and disorganised by the coup, nevertheless managed to confine the Turkish forces to a fairly small space, and when the cease-fire came, had some cause for pride. In mid August there were negotiations, in Geneva, at which Turkey proposed major changes in the constitutional relations between the island's two communities, a much greater geographical separation of Turks from Greeks, and a weaker central government than had been agreed in 1960. The Greeks made counter-proposals, but the Turks' reply, in effect, was, 'Take it or leave it.' The Greeks asked for forty-eight hours to reconsider the Turkish proposals, but this was refused. The conference broke up at 3:00 a.m. on 14 August, and at 4:30 a.m. Turkey restarted military operations, the 'second round', as it came to be called.

You said in the past turkey asked for a return to the constitution and the gcs refused...I asked you for proof and none came...and here we are...

Well it confirmed that turkey was after ground and nothing more...

Amazing how you pick and chose what you want to believe as being the whole truth Just because there is no mention here does not make it so...This is a Greek site don't forget.... EVEN IF they didn't.....The situation was such that the constitution was negated by Makarios long before so the claims should have been accepted but instead counter claims were made so what does that tell you. What were the Greeks after.

Are we suppose now not believe what you posted?

Fuck man make up your own mind...You present a document and I asked the question...When did "turkey" asked for the return of the constitution...So far you are confirming to me she didn't...

You even thanked T_C for saying something about cantons...was that a return to the original constitution?

Boomers...I am trying to accomodate you in every way that I can...Seeing how you just want to believe the propaganda crap that you have been taught and are so resistant to the truth then I will give you examples of what might have happened so you can take he truth in small doses.........You can say thank you when ever you are ready

Let me get this right Zan...how on earth is aking you a question be considered propaganda

You post an article, I ask a question out of your article, then you blame me for asking a question?...strooth...

How about for once answer the question that has been asked from you several times...

when did "turkey" asked for a return to the constitution

come on spit it out man...its a straight forward question...either you know or you don't...can't get simpler than that...

PS...asking a question Zan is not considered propaganda...but not answering a question out of your article is...get it right man...

I told you several times Boomers...What the hell are you on.....When the first cease fire came...Is that the answer you want....Oh! you want proof..... Tell me what source you will accept my proof from so I can be sure that you will not turn me away.........Makarios did not want the Zurich agreement returned to in it's entirety, even after what had happened so the negotiations started straight away as to what is acceptable and that has been going on since then...What more [roof do you want than history it self


I will tell you what is propaganda though and that is repeating that Turkey ethnically cleansed you from your homes and not acknowledging the other factors that brought them in....Except for keep harping on about wanting the land that they already had

Are you dreaming or what...What source?...you never quoted any source...The last time you said you were gonna dig it out and you never did...all we have is your word, and I am afraid, no offence, ain't good enough...

Just one source...will do...

what we have so far is an extract from the article you posted which contradicts what you're saying now...here it is again...your source, your post...

The first phase of the Turkish invasion lasted from 20 to 30 July. The Greeks, dazed and disorganised by the coup, nevertheless managed to confine the Turkish forces to a fairly small space, and when the cease-fire came, had some cause for pride. In mid August there were negotiations, in Geneva, at which Turkey proposed major changes in the constitutional relations between the island's two communities, a much greater geographical separation of Turks from Greeks, and a weaker central government than had been agreed in 1960.. The Greeks made counter-proposals, but the Turks' reply, in effect, was, 'Take it or leave it.' The Greeks asked for forty-eight hours to reconsider the Turkish proposals, but this was refused. The conference broke up at 3:00 a.m. on 14 August, and at 4:30 a.m. Turkey restarted military operations, the 'second round', as it came to be called.

and further more

I will tell you what is propaganda though and that is repeating that Turkey ethnically cleansed you from your homes and not acknowledging the other factors that brought them in....Except for keep harping on about wanting the land that they already had

Are you calling Ethnic cleansing propaganda now?...They were the guarantor power...they had no right to ethnic cleansing...

Mate you are not on the sauce by any chance?

You then go and scream and shout and shit your pants when eric_dayi comes on and tells you that the GCs tried to genocide the TCs in 1963 to 74

I am still trying to find a source for your quote that you will not jump down my throat on and have a go at the source rather than the content as you usually do. I am afraid that I have not found one hat will shut you up so I am willing to take the stick for saying it ....So far....Don't worry though....I am still looking.

You are still refusing o look at he evidence of the facts of history though.....Turkey acted as a guarantor power and with that the restoring of the constitution was paramount, if there was one to restore. There turns out here wasn't and the threat of ENOSIS was still there and thae fact that Makarios would not let the Zurich agreement back in it's entirety was also there. Are you denying these facts???????If not then why is the "RoC" not pushing this as here goal...Why will they not just say they want to return to this agreement????

Man what does ricco the clown has got to do with the price of fish... actually your whole post...

I just a asked a simple question and I quoted you from your own article that contradicts what ever you are trying to say...Let me remind you once more...You posted an article and I asked a simple question...

You are beating around the bush Zan...

Ok atleast you admitted you haven't got one even though its staring right in the face in the article you posted...

PS...From now on, anything you post we shouldn't believe, because you don't believe what you are posting in the first place...

Why has it taken you so long to get around o what you want to believe Boomers Please give me an example of any post and quote I have given you that you have ever accepted I have posted the reactions and words of GCs on my History thread and you have not accepted hem either so what will you accept except total surrender....I really thought hat you had potential for common sense but it seems you are just another recruit for Tpaps election boost on the forum. Follow our nose Boomers and you will come to a cross road in which you only turn bak each time and not make a decision as to taking the right road. More things for you to decipher I am afraid but it will help to keep you active...........I have no problem with admitting that I have no proof hat YOU will accept.........You just can't see what I am saying to you can you....

[boomerang]

The first phase of the Turkish invasion lasted from 20 to 30 July. The Greeks, dazed and disorganised by the coup, nevertheless managed to confine the Turkish forces to a fairly small space, and when the cease-fire came, had some cause for pride. In mid August there were negotiations, in Geneva, at which Turkey proposed major changes in the constitutional relations between the island's two communities, a much greater geographical separation of Turks from Greeks, and a weaker central government than had been agreed in 1960. The Greeks made counter-proposals, but the Turks' reply, in effect, was, 'Take it or leave it.' The Greeks asked for forty-eight hours to reconsider the Turkish proposals, but this was refused. The conference broke up at 3:00 a.m. on 14 August, and at 4:30 a.m. Turkey restarted military operations, the 'second round', as it came to be called.

You said in the past turkey asked for a return to the constitution and the gcs refused...I asked you for proof and none came...and here we are...

Well it confirmed that turkey was after ground and nothing more...

Amazing how you pick and chose what you want to believe as being the whole truth Just because there is no mention here does not make it so...This is a Greek site don't forget.... EVEN IF they didn't.....The situation was such that the constitution was negated by Makarios long before so the claims should have been accepted but instead counter claims were made so what does that tell you. What were the Greeks after.

Are we suppose now not believe what you posted?

Fuck man make up your own mind...You present a document and I asked the question...When did "turkey" asked for the return of the constitution...So far you are confirming to me she didn't...

You even thanked T_C for saying something about cantons...was that a return to the original constitution?

Boomers...I am trying to accomodate you in every way that I can...Seeing how you just want to believe the propaganda crap that you have been taught and are so resistant to the truth then I will give you examples of what might have happened so you can take he truth in small doses.........You can say thank you when ever you are ready

Let me get this right Zan...how on earth is aking you a question be considered propaganda

You post an article, I ask a question out of your article, then you blame me for asking a question?...strooth...

How about for once answer the question that has been asked from you several times...

when did "turkey" asked for a return to the constitution

come on spit it out man...its a straight forward question...either you know or you don't...can't get simpler than that...

PS...asking a question Zan is not considered propaganda...but not answering a question out of your article is...get it right man...

I told you several times Boomers...What the hell are you on.....When the first cease fire came...Is that the answer you want....Oh! you want proof..... Tell me what source you will accept my proof from so I can be sure that you will not turn me away.........Makarios did not want the Zurich agreement returned to in it's entirety, even after what had happened so the negotiations started straight away as to what is acceptable and that has been going on since then...What more [roof do you want than history it self


I will tell you what is propaganda though and that is repeating that Turkey ethnically cleansed you from your homes and not acknowledging the other factors that brought them in....Except for keep harping on about wanting the land that they already had

Are you dreaming or what...What source?...you never quoted any source...The last time you said you were gonna dig it out and you never did...all we have is your word, and I am afraid, no offence, ain't good enough...

Just one source...will do...

what we have so far is an extract from the article you posted which contradicts what you're saying now...here it is again...your source, your post...

The first phase of the Turkish invasion lasted from 20 to 30 July. The Greeks, dazed and disorganised by the coup, nevertheless managed to confine the Turkish forces to a fairly small space, and when the cease-fire came, had some cause for pride. In mid August there were negotiations, in Geneva, at which Turkey proposed major changes in the constitutional relations between the island's two communities, a much greater geographical separation of Turks from Greeks, and a weaker central government than had been agreed in 1960.. The Greeks made counter-proposals, but the Turks' reply, in effect, was, 'Take it or leave it.' The Greeks asked for forty-eight hours to reconsider the Turkish proposals, but this was refused. The conference broke up at 3:00 a.m. on 14 August, and at 4:30 a.m. Turkey restarted military operations, the 'second round', as it came to be called.

and further more

I will tell you what is propaganda though and that is repeating that Turkey ethnically cleansed you from your homes and not acknowledging the other factors that brought them in....Except for keep harping on about wanting the land that they already had

Are you calling Ethnic cleansing propaganda now?...They were the guarantor power...they had no right to ethnic cleansing...

Mate you are not on the sauce by any chance?

You then go and scream and shout and shit your pants when eric_dayi comes on and tells you that the GCs tried to genocide the TCs in 1963 to 74

I am still trying to find a source for your quote that you will not jump down my throat on and have a go at the source rather than the content as you usually do. I am afraid that I have not found one hat will shut you up so I am willing to take the stick for saying it ....So far....Don't worry though....I am still looking.

You are still refusing o look at he evidence of the facts of history though.....Turkey acted as a guarantor power and with that the restoring of the constitution was paramount, if there was one to restore. There turns out here wasn't and the threat of ENOSIS was still there and thae fact that Makarios would not let the Zurich agreement back in it's entirety was also there. Are you denying these facts???????If not then why is the "RoC" not pushing this as here goal...Why will they not just say they want to return to this agreement????

Man what does ricco the clown has got to do with the price of fish... actually your whole post...

I just a asked a simple question and I quoted you from your own article that contradicts what ever you are trying to say...Let me remind you once more...You posted an article and I asked a simple question...

You are beating around the bush Zan...

Ok atleast you admitted you haven't got one even though its staring right in the face in the article you posted...

PS...From now on, anything you post we shouldn't believe, because you don't believe what you are posting in the first place...

Why has it taken you so long to get around o what you want to believe Boomers Please give me an example of any post and quote I have given you that you have ever accepted I have posted the reactions and words of GCs on my History thread and you have not accepted hem either so what will you accept except total surrender....I really thought hat you had potential for common sense but it seems you are just another recruit for Tpaps election boost on the forum. Follow our nose Boomers and you will come to a cross road in which you only turn bak each time and not make a decision as to taking the right road. More things for you to decipher I am afraid but it will help to keep you active...........I have no problem with admitting that I have no proof hat YOU will accept.........You just can't see what I am saying to you can you....

Man what is wrong with you...I just asked you a simple question form your post that contradicts what you say...

So let me get this straight...You do not believe your own post and you are going to give me another post...now you got me confused...

now you see why I said this

PS...From now on, anything you post we shouldn't believe, because you don't believe what you are posting in the first place...

And then you dig into me with more...come on Zan that is not fair and you know it...

I asked you as imple question...when did "turkey" asked for a return to the constitution...surely it couldn't be that hard...Its all about facts zan and nothing esle...especially when your own facts contradict what you say...but as I said I am willing to wait...then youu say I have no sence...,man please give me a break

[zan]

The first phase of the Turkish invasion lasted from 20 to 30 July. The Greeks, dazed and disorganised by the coup, nevertheless managed to confine the Turkish forces to a fairly small space, and when the cease-fire came, had some cause for pride. In mid August there were negotiations, in Geneva, at which Turkey proposed major changes in the constitutional relations between the island's two communities, a much greater geographical separation of Turks from Greeks, and a weaker central government than had been agreed in 1960. The Greeks made counter-proposals, but the Turks' reply, in effect, was, 'Take it or leave it.' The Greeks asked for forty-eight hours to reconsider the Turkish proposals, but this was refused. The conference broke up at 3:00 a.m. on 14 August, and at 4:30 a.m. Turkey restarted military operations, the 'second round', as it came to be called.

You said in the past turkey asked for a return to the constitution and the gcs refused...I asked you for proof and none came...and here we are...

Well it confirmed that turkey was after ground and nothing more...

Amazing how you pick and chose what you want to believe as being the whole truth Just because there is no mention here does not make it so...This is a Greek site don't forget.... EVEN IF they didn't.....The situation was such that the constitution was negated by Makarios long before so the claims should have been accepted but instead counter claims were made so what does that tell you. What were the Greeks after.

Are we suppose now not believe what you posted?

Fuck man make up your own mind...You present a document and I asked the question...When did "turkey" asked for the return of the constitution...So far you are confirming to me she didn't...

You even thanked T_C for saying something about cantons...was that a return to the original constitution?

Boomers...I am trying to accomodate you in every way that I can...Seeing how you just want to believe the propaganda crap that you have been taught and are so resistant to the truth then I will give you examples of what might have happened so you can take he truth in small doses.........You can say thank you when ever you are ready

Let me get this right Zan...how on earth is aking you a question be considered propaganda

You post an article, I ask a question out of your article, then you blame me for asking a question?...strooth...

How about for once answer the question that has been asked from you several times...

when did "turkey" asked for a return to the constitution

come on spit it out man...its a straight forward question...either you know or you don't...can't get simpler than that...

PS...asking a question Zan is not considered propaganda...but not answering a question out of your article is...get it right man...

I told you several times Boomers...What the hell are you on.....When the first cease fire came...Is that the answer you want....Oh! you want proof..... Tell me what source you will accept my proof from so I can be sure that you will not turn me away.........Makarios did not want the Zurich agreement returned to in it's entirety, even after what had happened so the negotiations started straight away as to what is acceptable and that has been going on since then...What more [roof do you want than history it self


I will tell you what is propaganda though and that is repeating that Turkey ethnically cleansed you from your homes and not acknowledging the other factors that brought them in....Except for keep harping on about wanting the land that they already had

Are you dreaming or what...What source?...you never quoted any source...The last time you said you were gonna dig it out and you never did...all we have is your word, and I am afraid, no offence, ain't good enough...

Just one source...will do...

what we have so far is an extract from the article you posted which contradicts what you're saying now...here it is again...your source, your post...

The first phase of the Turkish invasion lasted from 20 to 30 July. The Greeks, dazed and disorganised by the coup, nevertheless managed to confine the Turkish forces to a fairly small space, and when the cease-fire came, had some cause for pride. In mid August there were negotiations, in Geneva, at which Turkey proposed major changes in the constitutional relations between the island's two communities, a much greater geographical separation of Turks from Greeks, and a weaker central government than had been agreed in 1960.. The Greeks made counter-proposals, but the Turks' reply, in effect, was, 'Take it or leave it.' The Greeks asked for forty-eight hours to reconsider the Turkish proposals, but this was refused. The conference broke up at 3:00 a.m. on 14 August, and at 4:30 a.m. Turkey restarted military operations, the 'second round', as it came to be called.

and further more

I will tell you what is propaganda though and that is repeating that Turkey ethnically cleansed you from your homes and not acknowledging the other factors that brought them in....Except for keep harping on about wanting the land that they already had

Are you calling Ethnic cleansing propaganda now?...They were the guarantor power...they had no right to ethnic cleansing...

Mate you are not on the sauce by any chance?

You then go and scream and shout and shit your pants when eric_dayi comes on and tells you that the GCs tried to genocide the TCs in 1963 to 74

I am still trying to find a source for your quote that you will not jump down my throat on and have a go at the source rather than the content as you usually do. I am afraid that I have not found one hat will shut you up so I am willing to take the stick for saying it ....So far....Don't worry though....I am still looking.

You are still refusing o look at he evidence of the facts of history though.....Turkey acted as a guarantor power and with that the restoring of the constitution was paramount, if there was one to restore. There turns out here wasn't and the threat of ENOSIS was still there and thae fact that Makarios would not let the Zurich agreement back in it's entirety was also there. Are you denying these facts???????If not then why is the "RoC" not pushing this as here goal...Why will they not just say they want to return to this agreement????

Man what does ricco the clown has got to do with the price of fish... actually your whole post...

I just a asked a simple question and I quoted you from your own article that contradicts what ever you are trying to say...Let me remind you once more...You posted an article and I asked a simple question...

You are beating around the bush Zan...

Ok atleast you admitted you haven't got one even though its staring right in the face in the article you posted...

PS...From now on, anything you post we shouldn't believe, because you don't believe what you are posting in the first place...

Why has it taken you so long to get around o what you want to believe Boomers Please give me an example of any post and quote I have given you that you have ever accepted I have posted the reactions and words of GCs on my History thread and you have not accepted hem either so what will you accept except total surrender....I really thought hat you had potential for common sense but it seems you are just another recruit for Tpaps election boost on the forum. Follow our nose Boomers and you will come to a cross road in which you only turn bak each time and not make a decision as to taking the right road. More things for you to decipher I am afraid but it will help to keep you active...........I have no problem with admitting that I have no proof hat YOU will accept.........You just can't see what I am saying to you can you....

Man what is wrong with you...I just asked you a simple question form your post that contradicts what you say...

So let me get this straight...You do not believe your own post and you are going to give me another post...now you got me confused...

now you see why I said this

PS...From now on, anything you post we shouldn't believe, because you don't believe what you are posting in the first place...

And then you dig into me with more...come on Zan that is not fair and you know it...

I asked you as imple question...when did "turkey" asked for a return to the constitution...surely it couldn't be that hard...Its all about facts zan and nothing esle...especially when your own facts contradict what you say...but as I said I am willing to wait...then youu say I have no sence...,man please give me a break

Have to go to work now Boomers...Late again.....You just keep saying "I don't understand"....That always works..... I AM STILL LOOKING......Any better.......I am trying to find an honest Greek source but am having, no surprise, difficulty......

[boomerang]

The first phase of the Turkish invasion lasted from 20 to 30 July. The Greeks, dazed and disorganised by the coup, nevertheless managed to confine the Turkish forces to a fairly small space, and when the cease-fire came, had some cause for pride. In mid August there were negotiations, in Geneva, at which Turkey proposed major changes in the constitutional relations between the island's two communities, a much greater geographical separation of Turks from Greeks, and a weaker central government than had been agreed in 1960. The Greeks made counter-proposals, but the Turks' reply, in effect, was, 'Take it or leave it.' The Greeks asked for forty-eight hours to reconsider the Turkish proposals, but this was refused. The conference broke up at 3:00 a.m. on 14 August, and at 4:30 a.m. Turkey restarted military operations, the 'second round', as it came to be called.

You said in the past turkey asked for a return to the constitution and the gcs refused...I asked you for proof and none came...and here we are...

Well it confirmed that turkey was after ground and nothing more...

Amazing how you pick and chose what you want to believe as being the whole truth Just because there is no mention here does not make it so...This is a Greek site don't forget.... EVEN IF they didn't.....The situation was such that the constitution was negated by Makarios long before so the claims should have been accepted but instead counter claims were made so what does that tell you. What were the Greeks after.

Are we suppose now not believe what you posted?

Fuck man make up your own mind...You present a document and I asked the question...When did "turkey" asked for the return of the constitution...So far you are confirming to me she didn't...

You even thanked T_C for saying something about cantons...was that a return to the original constitution?

Boomers...I am trying to accomodate you in every way that I can...Seeing how you just want to believe the propaganda crap that you have been taught and are so resistant to the truth then I will give you examples of what might have happened so you can take he truth in small doses.........You can say thank you when ever you are ready

Let me get this right Zan...how on earth is aking you a question be considered propaganda

You post an article, I ask a question out of your article, then you blame me for asking a question?...strooth...

How about for once answer the question that has been asked from you several times...

when did "turkey" asked for a return to the constitution

come on spit it out man...its a straight forward question...either you know or you don't...can't get simpler than that...

PS...asking a question Zan is not considered propaganda...but not answering a question out of your article is...get it right man...

I told you several times Boomers...What the hell are you on.....When the first cease fire came...Is that the answer you want....Oh! you want proof..... Tell me what source you will accept my proof from so I can be sure that you will not turn me away.........Makarios did not want the Zurich agreement returned to in it's entirety, even after what had happened so the negotiations started straight away as to what is acceptable and that has been going on since then...What more [roof do you want than history it self


I will tell you what is propaganda though and that is repeating that Turkey ethnically cleansed you from your homes and not acknowledging the other factors that brought them in....Except for keep harping on about wanting the land that they already had

Are you dreaming or what...What source?...you never quoted any source...The last time you said you were gonna dig it out and you never did...all we have is your word, and I am afraid, no offence, ain't good enough...

Just one source...will do...

what we have so far is an extract from the article you posted which contradicts what you're saying now...here it is again...your source, your post...

The first phase of the Turkish invasion lasted from 20 to 30 July. The Greeks, dazed and disorganised by the coup, nevertheless managed to confine the Turkish forces to a fairly small space, and when the cease-fire came, had some cause for pride. In mid August there were negotiations, in Geneva, at which Turkey proposed major changes in the constitutional relations between the island's two communities, a much greater geographical separation of Turks from Greeks, and a weaker central government than had been agreed in 1960.. The Greeks made counter-proposals, but the Turks' reply, in effect, was, 'Take it or leave it.' The Greeks asked for forty-eight hours to reconsider the Turkish proposals, but this was refused. The conference broke up at 3:00 a.m. on 14 August, and at 4:30 a.m. Turkey restarted military operations, the 'second round', as it came to be called.

and further more

I will tell you what is propaganda though and that is repeating that Turkey ethnically cleansed you from your homes and not acknowledging the other factors that brought them in....Except for keep harping on about wanting the land that they already had

Are you calling Ethnic cleansing propaganda now?...They were the guarantor power...they had no right to ethnic cleansing...

Mate you are not on the sauce by any chance?

You then go and scream and shout and shit your pants when eric_dayi comes on and tells you that the GCs tried to genocide the TCs in 1963 to 74

I am still trying to find a source for your quote that you will not jump down my throat on and have a go at the source rather than the content as you usually do. I am afraid that I have not found one hat will shut you up so I am willing to take the stick for saying it ....So far....Don't worry though....I am still looking.

You are still refusing o look at he evidence of the facts of history though.....Turkey acted as a guarantor power and with that the restoring of the constitution was paramount, if there was one to restore. There turns out here wasn't and the threat of ENOSIS was still there and thae fact that Makarios would not let the Zurich agreement back in it's entirety was also there. Are you denying these facts???????If not then why is the "RoC" not pushing this as here goal...Why will they not just say they want to return to this agreement????

Man what does ricco the clown has got to do with the price of fish... actually your whole post...

I just a asked a simple question and I quoted you from your own article that contradicts what ever you are trying to say...Let me remind you once more...You posted an article and I asked a simple question...

You are beating around the bush Zan...

Ok atleast you admitted you haven't got one even though its staring right in the face in the article you posted...

PS...From now on, anything you post we shouldn't believe, because you don't believe what you are posting in the first place...

Why has it taken you so long to get around o what you want to believe Boomers Please give me an example of any post and quote I have given you that you have ever accepted I have posted the reactions and words of GCs on my History thread and you have not accepted hem either so what will you accept except total surrender....I really thought hat you had potential for common sense but it seems you are just another recruit for Tpaps election boost on the forum. Follow our nose Boomers and you will come to a cross road in which you only turn bak each time and not make a decision as to taking the right road. More things for you to decipher I am afraid but it will help to keep you active...........I have no problem with admitting that I have no proof hat YOU will accept.........You just can't see what I am saying to you can you....

Man what is wrong with you...I just asked you a simple question form your post that contradicts what you say...

So let me get this straight...You do not believe your own post and you are going to give me another post...now you got me confused...

now you see why I said this

PS...From now on, anything you post we shouldn't believe, because you don't believe what you are posting in the first place...

And then you dig into me with more...come on Zan that is not fair and you know it...

I asked you as imple question...when did "turkey" asked for a return to the constitution...surely it couldn't be that hard...Its all about facts zan and nothing esle...especially when your own facts contradict what you say...but as I said I am willing to wait...then youu say I have no sence...,man please give me a break

Have to go to work now Boomers...Late again.....You just keep saying "I don't understand"....That always works..... I AM STILL LOOKING......Any better.......I am trying to find an honest Greek source but am having, no surprise, difficulty......

Mate what time you start work...are you on executive hrs by any chance?

I am off home to get dinner and down a few tinnies...good luck

[zan]

Mr Boomers

Please read his before you comment........All the way through the Turkish People have asked for the return to the Zurich agreement...All the way through.....When all avenues were exhausted in that area then other options were put on the table....This is written by ..........


http://www.ciaonet.org/isa/sty01/

This is still not the piece I am looking for but it is good enough...... hope you are not going to look for the exact wording and can take in the main thread. [/i]

[boomerang]

Mr Boomers

Please read his before you comment........All the way through the Turkish People have asked for the return to the Zurich agreement...All the way through.....When all avenues were exhausted in that area then other options were put on the table....This is written by ..........


http://www.ciaonet.org/isa/sty01/

This is still not the piece I am looking for but it is good enough...... hope you are not going to look for the exact wording and can take in the main thread. [/i]

Bloody hell zan...do you actually do any work

here you can download it here for future reference...

http://rapidshare.com/files/86330704/The_Enlargement_of_the_European_Union.doc

Give me a couple of months to go through it ...unless you can point me to the relevant section...

How on earth did you get to this site? :lol;

[zan]

Mr Boomers

Please read his before you comment........All the way through the Turkish People have asked for the return to the Zurich agreement...All the way through.....When all avenues were exhausted in that area then other options were put on the table....This is written by ..........


http://www.ciaonet.org/isa/sty01/

This is still not the piece I am looking for but it is good enough...... hope you are not going to look for the exact wording and can take in the main thread. [/i]

Bloody hell zan...do you actually do any work

here you can download it here for future reference...

http://rapidshare.com/files/86330704/The_Enlargement_of_the_European_Union.doc

Give me a couple of months to go through it ...unless you can point me to the relevant section...

How on earth did you get to this site? :lol;

What can I say...I am quick at what I do and when I finish , the day is mine. Quick and good at what I do Anyway...You can talk...You have been posting for a couple of days solid...How does that work



I will see what I can do about that request.........

[zan]

Just realised it's that bloody rapid share....... Do you use them a lot and how good are they..Is it worth joining...I hate paying for things I don't have to.

[boomerang]

Mr Boomers

Please read his before you comment........All the way through the Turkish People have asked for the return to the Zurich agreement...All the way through.....When all avenues were exhausted in that area then other options were put on the table....This is written by ..........


http://www.ciaonet.org/isa/sty01/

This is still not the piece I am looking for but it is good enough...... hope you are not going to look for the exact wording and can take in the main thread. [/i]

Bloody hell zan...do you actually do any work

here you can download it here for future reference...

http://rapidshare.com/files/86330704/The_Enlargement_of_the_European_Union.doc

Give me a couple of months to go through it ...unless you can point me to the relevant section...

How on earth did you get to this site? :lol;

What can I say...I am quick at what I do and when I finish , the day is mine. Quick and good at what I do Anyway...You can talk...You have been posting for a couple of days solid...How does that work



I will see what I can do about that request.........

I sit infront of the computer all day...

Also worth mentioning Jan is a right off as far as work is concerned...we are technically on summer holidays...we get 4 weeks off, so normality won't return till the end of his month