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Postby webbo » Mon Jan 28, 2008 4:07 pm

Niki wrote:
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phoenix wrote:
Niki wrote:
phoenix wrote:I feel really guilty.... :(

I am staying in what was traditionally a most arid part of the country, but there have been no water cuts or lowering of water pressure since I have been here and I have been a major heavy user .... some of my long-standing UK habits (although water shortages there were of prime consideration even on contradioctionarily days of major floods :? ) will have to alter....

I will do my bit and not wash dishes under copious running water, shower more than once a day or drink too much water, .... wine much more ecologically friendly .... :lol:


Eh??? Is this a scientific word?

Phoenix you have only been here for just over a week, I'm sure you can amend your ways and be forgiven. I told my cleaner not to hose down the patios, lead balloon!!! It's a hopeless case.

It is worrying that there have been no water cuts. I am collecting bottled water just in case.


My mother, who is here with me, will not stop and desist from watering down the veranda and street to keep the dust down .....


Phoenix, no excuse, you are always on this forum so you know about the impending water shortage.
Make her - hide the hosepipe! Then educate her and the rest of your family. I kid you not, this is serious. No rain, no water. You may be going back home earlier than you think.

Same goes to you Niki mou, take away their tools and they cannot use the water. Better still, tell her she will not get paid, that will stop her..............................
This is a mega serious issue. I am conserving all the water I can and you two are litterally letting it go down the drain.
WAKE UP NOW!!! :x :twisted: :twisted:

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Ahem!!!! :roll:

You think I gave in and let her do it anyway???


That is what your post suggests, yes - lead balloon and all that ........

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Postby Niki » Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:12 pm

webbo wrote:
Niki wrote:
webbo wrote:
phoenix wrote:
Niki wrote:
phoenix wrote:I feel really guilty.... :(

I am staying in what was traditionally a most arid part of the country, but there have been no water cuts or lowering of water pressure since I have been here and I have been a major heavy user .... some of my long-standing UK habits (although water shortages there were of prime consideration even on contradioctionarily days of major floods :? ) will have to alter....

I will do my bit and not wash dishes under copious running water, shower more than once a day or drink too much water, .... wine much more ecologically friendly .... :lol:


Eh??? Is this a scientific word?

Phoenix you have only been here for just over a week, I'm sure you can amend your ways and be forgiven. I told my cleaner not to hose down the patios, lead balloon!!! It's a hopeless case.

It is worrying that there have been no water cuts. I am collecting bottled water just in case.


My mother, who is here with me, will not stop and desist from watering down the veranda and street to keep the dust down .....


Phoenix, no excuse, you are always on this forum so you know about the impending water shortage.
Make her - hide the hosepipe! Then educate her and the rest of your family. I kid you not, this is serious. No rain, no water. You may be going back home earlier than you think.

Same goes to you Niki mou, take away their tools and they cannot use the water. Better still, tell her she will not get paid, that will stop her..............................
This is a mega serious issue. I am conserving all the water I can and you two are litterally letting it go down the drain.
WAKE UP NOW!!! :x :twisted: :twisted:

Bubbles x 8)


Ahem!!!! :roll:

You think I gave in and let her do it anyway???


That is what your post suggests, yes - lead balloon and all that ........

Bubbles x 8)


Lead balloon indeed but I can cope with a grumpy cleaner. No she did not hose down the patios. 8)
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Postby kafenes » Mon Jan 28, 2008 5:34 pm

Bores to solve Kouris water crisis

IN THE next day or two 6,000 cubic metres of water will begin being pumped from bores in the Akrotiri area to supply Limassol consumers, reports said yesterday.

The decision to start pumping water from the area’s three bores will relieve the Kouris dam which’s water levels are alarmingly low.

The decision was made on Friday after the State Lab and Health Services reached an agreement to move ahead with a project they hope will cover Limassol’s water needs. Both services had made some objections regarding the water’s suitability which were laid to rest following the results of laboratory tests, Politis said.

Initially the bores will pump 6,000 cubic metres though this is expected to increase following additional construction works.

Discussions are currently under way to determine to what extent bores in the Garilli area can also be used to supply Limassol in conjunction with the Akrotiri bores. If the Garilli bores, which also need some additional construction, are approved for use then the water wells will effectively supply coastal city with a total 17,000 cubic metres of pumped water.

Limassol’s water situation is critical with the Kouri dam supply only sufficient to cover the city’s needs for another two months.

The issue was discussed at the Agriculture Ministry on Friday with representatives from the Limassol Water Board. During the meeting officials also discussed how to deal with the impending summer months, the operation of a mobile desalination unit in Limassol, and how to transport desalinated water from Larnaca to Limassol’s distillery.


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Postby webbo » Mon Jan 28, 2008 7:40 pm

Niki wrote:
webbo wrote:
Niki wrote:
webbo wrote:
phoenix wrote:
Niki wrote:
phoenix wrote:I feel really guilty.... :(

I am staying in what was traditionally a most arid part of the country, but there have been no water cuts or lowering of water pressure since I have been here and I have been a major heavy user .... some of my long-standing UK habits (although water shortages there were of prime consideration even on contradioctionarily days of major floods :? ) will have to alter....

I will do my bit and not wash dishes under copious running water, shower more than once a day or drink too much water, .... wine much more ecologically friendly .... :lol:


Eh??? Is this a scientific word?

Phoenix you have only been here for just over a week, I'm sure you can amend your ways and be forgiven. I told my cleaner not to hose down the patios, lead balloon!!! It's a hopeless case.

It is worrying that there have been no water cuts. I am collecting bottled water just in case.


My mother, who is here with me, will not stop and desist from watering down the veranda and street to keep the dust down .....


Phoenix, no excuse, you are always on this forum so you know about the impending water shortage.
Make her - hide the hosepipe! Then educate her and the rest of your family. I kid you not, this is serious. No rain, no water. You may be going back home earlier than you think.

Same goes to you Niki mou, take away their tools and they cannot use the water. Better still, tell her she will not get paid, that will stop her..............................
This is a mega serious issue. I am conserving all the water I can and you two are litterally letting it go down the drain.
WAKE UP NOW!!! :x :twisted: :twisted:

Bubbles x 8)


Ahem!!!! :roll:

You think I gave in and let her do it anyway???


That is what your post suggests, yes - lead balloon and all that ........

Bubbles x 8)


Lead balloon indeed but I can cope with a grumpy cleaner. No she did not hose down the patios. 8)


:D Very happy to hear that :D Stay dirty gori!

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Postby webbo » Sat Feb 02, 2008 3:41 pm

WHAT NEXT?

Water Board plays down Engomi water fears
By Jacqueline Theodoulou

THE AUTHORITIES yesterday played down media reports that water in the Engomi area contained dangerously high levels of salt.

The Health Services issued an announcement reassuring residents that although there had indeed been excessive levels of salt in the water towards the end of last month, the problem had been sorted out. It added that the specific water tank was undergoing more checks than usual.

The Services added that the presence of chloride salts in drinking water was not harmful to public health, the only repercussions being the water tasting bad and a build-up of residue in taps.

According to Pantelis Panteli, deputy head of the Nicosia Water Board, the story, reported yesterday in Simerini newspaper, had been blown out of all proportion.
The daily claimed that for the past 10 days, water tanks in Engomi had been filled with “poisonous” salts, and condemned the state for not informing the area’s residents.

It added that a consumer filed a complaint to the Health Services, which resulted in the intervention of the State Laboratory. The Lab, according to Simerini, had ordered the tank supplying the area to be closed down until all tests had been completed.

But Panteli contradicted the claims, saying the tank was up and running, while the problem had been sorted out yesterday.

“I don’t believe there is anything to worry about. In the case of Engomi, there is a water pipe that comes from Morphou; this water is a product of land drilling and does not enter the tank,” he explained.

“On Thursday, a small amount of the Morphou water entered the Engomi tank, thus increasing the quantity of salts.

“When we spotted the problem, we got in the tank and isolated the area in which the water had entered, so the salts were restricted to the smallest possible amount.”

He added that the tank had not gone under quarantine and that there were no water cuts, as the newspaper had claimed.

Panteli assured the Cyprus Mail that the problem had been solved yesterday. “There is no need for the public to be concerned. Samples have been analysed and the water is OK and everything is back to normal.”

In fact, he said he would willingly drink a glass of water in front of us to prove that there were no dangers.

“Today the water tanks are filled with desalinated water and everything is back to normal.”
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Postby webbo » Sat Feb 02, 2008 3:46 pm

I just love the last paragraph!!!!

Limassol will run out of water in three months
By Anna Hassapi

LIMASSOL Water Board warned yesterday the water shortage was particularly acute in the Limassol district with only enough water to cover the needs of the next three months.
“To face this situation, with an inflow of only 3.62 million cubic metres at Kourris Dam, bringing its total to 4.13 million cubic metres, we have decided temporarily to start the functioning of a desalination unit at Pyrgos, which by October will produce 20,000 cubic metres of water a day, while at the same time we will promote the connection of Larnaca desalination unit with Limassol, which will be ready in approximately ten days,” said Anastasia Mavrelli, President of Limassol Water Board and Eparch of Limassol.

“We have also signed a contract for the extension of Dhekelia desalination unit to increase its production by 10,000 cubic metres of water per day, while the three drillings made by the Board at Kourris, with an estimated production of 6,000 cubic metres per day will be put to use shortly, as soon as the state Lab and the Health Services confirm that the water quality is still satisfactory,” Mavrelli added.

Following the request of Limassol Water Board, the amount of water taken from Kourris for agricultural and animal grazing purposes has been reduced to 15,000 cubic metres per day. To further boost Kourris, 6.4 million cubic metres of water were taken from Arminou dam and poured into Kourris since December 2007.

As a more permanent solution, the Board is pushing for the permanent desalination unit at Episkopi, which is scheduled to start functioning in 2010 and produce 40,000 cubic metres of water per day.

“Based on the above it is obvious that we will be facing a serious water shortage problem, at least until October, regardless of measures for controlling consumption or punishing violators. There will be a problem of water so all our concerns and worries have once again been put before the Agriculture Ministry to take necessary measures so that Limassol is not at a disadvantage compared to other districts in Cyprus,” Mavrelli said.

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Postby Nikitas » Sat Feb 02, 2008 4:24 pm

When I moved to Greece in the 70s I saw how people on the islands deal with the water problem and their islands are far more arid than Cyprus.

Every house has a cistern which fills from rain water. The roof is built to collect the water during the winter for summer use. You would be surprised how much water can be collected from even a small roof. From a 50 square meter roof we had enough to shower, wash, cook etc for 5 people for a whole summer.

In Symi they used to have a solar desalination system. It was enough for the locals but not for the profligate tourists. So most tourist islands now have desalination plants.

Like I posted above, there are solar powered desalination plants that can turn seawater to drinking water. They can give you up to 10 cubic meters per day.

There are solutions if you are willing to act.
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Postby webbo » Sat Feb 02, 2008 4:34 pm

Nikitas wrote:When I moved to Greece in the 70s I saw how people on the islands deal with the water problem and their islands are far more arid than Cyprus.

Every house has a cistern which fills from rain water. The roof is built to collect the water during the winter for summer use. You would be surprised how much water can be collected from even a small roof. From a 50 square meter roof we had enough to shower, wash, cook etc for 5 people for a whole summer.

In Symi they used to have a solar desalination system. It was enough for the locals but not for the profligate tourists. So most tourist islands now have desalination plants.

Like I posted above, there are solar powered desalination plants that can turn seawater to drinking water. They can give you up to 10 cubic meters per day.

There are solutions if you are willing to act.


I refer you back to page one of this post. This household is definitely 'doing its bit'. I have tried to educate those around me, but sometimes it just falls onto deaf ears. They think so long as they have water for now, they are ok. See what they think when there really is no water!!

BTW, you should put your suggestion to the Cyprus government and maybe they too could act on it - make it compulsory for such a system. I for one would use one.

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Postby Nikitas » Sat Feb 02, 2008 4:56 pm

Bubbles,

Well done for your grey water use and economy. You can have more water if you collect the winter rains.

I have more faith in individuals than governments. If you want resources for rain harvesting I can point you to some web sites. But in the end it is a simple matter to have large plastic tanks to collect your roof rainwater. If you multiply your rainfal in millimeters by the area of your roof you will be surprised by how much water you get from the roof.

In western Greece, near Preveza, I saw a terraced hillside with sunken drains which guide the water down to a huge concrete tank, more like a mini reservoir. It was all built by one man who got fed up with being told that there is a water shortage. He now sells some of his water surplus to neighbours.
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Postby webbo » Sat Feb 02, 2008 5:27 pm

Nikitas wrote:Bubbles,

Well done for your grey water use and economy. You can have more water if you collect the winter rains.

I have more faith in individuals than governments. If you want resources for rain harvesting I can point you to some web sites. But in the end it is a simple matter to have large plastic tanks to collect your roof rainwater. If you multiply your rainfal in millimeters by the area of your roof you will be surprised by how much water you get from the roof.

In western Greece, near Preveza, I saw a terraced hillside with sunken drains which guide the water down to a huge concrete tank, more like a mini reservoir. It was all built by one man who got fed up with being told that there is a water shortage. He now sells some of his water surplus to neighbours.


We did have a few buckets out on the roof collecting the rain last week. (The pipes leading down from our roof go straight into the ground - remember - we rent !) This water went into the great big water butt we have in our garden. Did overflow a bit mind - but onto the garden which I believe is better than out on the street or is this a misconception?
Please post the sites for all to see. It will be interesting to read and maybe our landlord will implement one for us............................ :P
Thanks.

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