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[purdey]

Greek75,
of course it is good at first,money pours in,it is there in vast amounts.It has never been that simple for the Uk,we never wanted much,we had it,but we do give it away.
Cyprus is getting it,but it will have to re pay.Look at the money you recieved for Public Transport infastructure,what happened nothing,so you gave it back with interest on the initial loan,Cyprus lost money!!

[Jerry]

Piratis if it's so simple then we'll just give you all the TC land in the south, do some accout balancing and have the entire thing finished.

You will end up with 18% of the island, an unsustainable economy propped up by Turkey and about 150,000 immigrants, soldiers and carpetbaggers. Turkey will then swallow you up and have what it only ever wanted - a permanent base against Greece who, as we all know, wants to invade and conquer Turkey - with EU permission of course

[greek75]

Piratis, even if the TC agree to keep only 18% I serioulsy doubt that any Cypriot would agree to just give away part of their country for the sake of a solution. Unless you want all the ultra nationalists with banners "Tin patrida ouk elatto paradoso" parading the streets of Nicosia then it is a bad suggestion.
Only solution is for TCs to claim their rights as Cypriots and forget about their dreams of a separate state as it will never happen.

[purdey]

Pirates.
Heres one for you,my father owns a house in Limassol,it is surrounded by deserted houses of Turkish Cypriots who now,well I don't know where they are.We have the deeds for the house which are Greek Cypriot.We cannot,live,sell,r-furbish this house.
Why because it is surrounded by displaced Turkish Cypriots houses...does this make sense?

[Piratis]

Pirates.
Heres one for you,my father owns a house in Limassol,it is surrounded by deserted houses of Turkish Cypriots who now,well I don't know where they are.We have the deeds for the house which are Greek Cypriot.We cannot,live,sell,r-furbish this house.
Why because it is surrounded by displaced Turkish Cypriots houses...does this make sense?

I don't know why is that purdey. What answer did the government give you?

[denizaksulu]

Just like the South Africans we have also been ruled by foreign rulers for way too long. The people that those rulers brought to our island are welcome to stay in Cyprus as equal Cypriot and European citizens, just like the Whites can stay in SA. But they should realize that the era of colonialism is over and they should finally allow Cyprus to rule itself in a democratic way as it happens in every other democratic country in the world.

I agree 120%.

I too agree 120.5% as long as the 'democracy' is not used to treat us as second class citizens/minority to subjugate us.

[greek75]

purdey, one thing I know for sure is that you cannot be living in an illegal breakaway part of the country and claim property in the Republic of Cyprus. In order to have your rights you need to have the same responsibilities as any other citizen of the Republic.
Now if you do decite to move here and live in your fathers house the government has no right to refuse you this. There is a sticky point there if there are refugees living in it. In such case a govement usually settles by buying the house from you or giving you another house.
They CANNOT refuse you the right of property if you are a legal citizen of the Republic of Cyprus.

[Piratis]

Piratis, even if the TC agree to keep only 18% I serioulsy doubt that any Cypriot would agree to just give away part of their country for the sake of a solution. Unless you want all the ultra nationalists with banners "Tin patrida ouk elatto paradoso" parading the streets of Nicosia then it is a bad suggestion.
Only solution is for TCs to claim their rights as Cypriots and forget about their dreams of a separate state as it will never happen.

greek75, we certainly want a fair, just and functional solution. No kind of partition can be fair or just since it would deprive Cypriots from a significant part of their country where they have 1000s years of history on it.

However a "clean" partition, which will at least be fair in terms of land distribution, is certainly better than the Annan plan kind of dysfunctional partition, so I believe the majority of GCs will be willing to make this huge compromise.

[purdey]

No I am British.I own property in the South as do my parents,family,wife and so on.We also have a family house in the centere of Limassol near the castle,which was regarded as the Turkish Cypriot area.This is the house we cannot access..

there is nobody living in the house or any of the twenty houses that surround it.It has never been entered since 1976.

[greek75]

purdey, as for the EU and the UK. I'm not sure how long you've been in the UK but I think you are forgetting the famous rebate that Thatcher negotiated. Don't forget that when the UK joined it was one of the poorest countries.
Look where it is today. You also probably missed Gordon Browns speech 2 days ago about the benefits of the EU for the UK. Millions of jobs depend on the EU, thousands of businesses in the UK will go out if it wasn't for the EU etc etc.
As for the rebate, you are paying a large chunk to the EU, but you are getting back more than what you give because when you negotiated the rebate you had nothing to give. This should change.
Another offender is France. It is giving a large chunk as well but the farm subsities it gets are very close to that.
As for the infrustructure in Cyprus who do you think is paying 50% for the removal of those idiotic roundabouts in Limassol. Who do you think pays for the reconstruction of the Limassol Port. Who do you think payed for the reconstruction of the Faneromeni Platia in Nicosia. Who do you think is going to pay for the culture center in Nicosia, the new highway to Polis etc etc.
As per the government figures we are going to use almost 95% of the funding available to us. Maybe you are confusing us with Greece. They did fail to use the funds available to them.