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[Piratis]

The kind of "political equality" TC's want is that in any type of settlement they are treated as an equal party. In a federal system both states would come together forming a "united cyprus". All federal systems don't have to be the same just look at the way belgium is run and it's the headquartrs to your beloved EU.

That is the kind of "union" which can happen with two separate territories/countries, not among ethnic groups of the same territory. E.g. If you owned one territory and we owned another territory, then we could decide to create a union, or not.

The problem here is that you do not own a separate territory. Otherwise there wouldn't be a problem to begin with. The problem is that what you illegally occupy today is what you stole from us, and a solution to the Cyprus Problem means you giving back what does not belong to you.

If you don't want to be equal Cypriot citizens and you want your own separate territory, then go ask from Turkey to give you part of its territory, or go steal it from others. Based on what you demand that part of our country, which is the homeland of 5 times more GCs than TCs, and where GCs have a far longer history, should be declared yours and "Turkish"?

[Nikitas]

Purdey you sound like those right wingers in the UK who see the EU as a monster. Your opinion, your problem. For others EU membership is a positive move forward. For Cyprus it certainly is and all this stuff you mention about the 90s it was precisely because Cyprus was managing its economy for EU membership that it grew so rapidly. It is still growing and that is why it was able to enter the Eurozone with minimal problems.

[umit07]

So Piratis you are saying that if we owned all of the north, our views would be just?

[purdey]

Cyprus Gate way to the Middle east...I am not a right winger but I do have a problem with Europe telling me what I can do and say.I am not a lone voice in what has become a give away of rights and freedom.

[Piratis]

So Piratis you are saying that if we owned all of the north, our views would be just?

If you owned the north then there wouldn't be a Cyprus Problem and therefore no need for a solution.

[Piratis]

Cyprus Gate way to the Middle east...I am not a right winger but I do have a problem with Europe telling me what I can do and say.I am not a lone voice in what has become a give away of rights and freedom.

You might not want to be in the European Union but apparently the majority of British want. If this is not the case, and the majority of British don't want to be part of the EU, then obviously there is some problem in the way your democracy functions over there.

[umit07]

Piratis if it's so simple then we'll just give you all the TC land in the south, do some accout balancing and have the entire thing finished.

[greek75]

The problem with a lot of people (and that is mostly in the new EU memebers) is that they entered the EU to GET. As long as they GET the EU is good. When they have to give something the EU is the evil demon that will destroy their counrty.
Sorry but this is not how it works. All of us need to realize that in a unified Europe, Europe will look after its interests. And unless we realize that we are part of those interests and as part we have to give as well as get then we will never understand the meaning of the EU.
Real world example ... California is the 6th largest economy in the world. It gives money to support other states like South Carolina. Those money could very well be used for further developing California but instead are used for the greater good of the US.

On another note someone mentioned Belgium federation. WORST example ever. They are borderline to split Belgium just because the country is split among ethnic lines. French speaking live separate from Dutch speaking with minimal interaction. VERY BAD example unless whoever mentioned it is very much looking forward to the 63-74 era.

[purdey]

Democracy does not function in the UK,I thought the whole of the world new that.We do not have a voteing system based on proportional representation...
All public surveys carried out in the UK want a withdrawl from the EU.We are only now starting to argue the toss about laws and freedoms,more to come,and no entry into the Euro.

[Piratis]

Piratis if it's so simple then we'll just give you all the TC land in the south, do some accout balancing and have the entire thing finished.

Umit, TCs own less than 18% of land in Cyprus. You currently illegally occupy 36% of land. If you want an exchange of land so TCs and GCs can be separated, then in that case you may not keep more than 18% of the island.