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Postby purdey » Thu Jan 24, 2008 2:12 pm

Kikapu,
excellent piece,I enjoyed reading it.I am glad you ate in Petros cafe,a good man.Next time you visit,I hope there is a next time.You must cross the road from Lania and see another old village,we will make you welcome.
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Postby Kikapu » Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:39 am

halil wrote:
please Kikapu ,
don't play with the words .When you play with the words it is RACİSM.

What is the differences between TURKİSH and TURK.İ will not argue with you from where Turkish Cypriots are Created.
İt is not the question.
Many time i said don't talk what you heard from others or getting something from others . Live and learn. İ can read many stories here .Truth is what İ know and what i see it Kikapu. Bloody hell more than 50 years now i am living in this İsland.
As long as ww don't blame this kind of the actions we can have worst days. What we do here . İf they do same things in Here or in other places about any race my reaction is same .
American sample is not the correct one .Turkish Cypriots are equal owner of this island like Greeks mate.



Halil,


When you play with the words it is RACİSM.


I was not playing word games at all. But words do have meanings and if you miss their meanings, then I can see how it may all sound the same to you. If you think this constitutes of being RACIST, then you do not know the meaning of the word RACIST....sorry.

What is the differences between TURKİSH and TURK


Absolutely nothing. Both indicate someone who is from the country of TURKEY. So if someone says anything about Turkish or Turks, they are referring to someone from Turkey. I know as TC's we get lazy sometimes and call ourselves "Turkish", only because we speak, read and write Turkish. But if you are going to call someone a Racist, then you must do so on the full intend on the use of the word and not what you want to understand to be. For example Halil, if I asked you to show me a Turkish Flag, what will you show me,

a) The flag from Turkey

or

b) The flag from the "TRNC".

If you don't think there is a difference, then get rid of the "TRNC" flag and just call yourself a TURK and only fly the Turkish flag from Turkey. This way you can remove one of the flags from the "Graffiti Mountain" and save some electricity at the same time, where it will be a positive move environmentally. So you need to decide to be a Turkish Cypriot or just Turkish / Turk.

Turkish Cypriots are equal owner of this island like Greeks mate


No one has said anything differently Halil, but thanks for reminding everyone all the same.

What we need to do Halil, is to become Cypriots once again, otherwise the Fascist will create a permanent division between the people whether there is a Partition or not. I know this will be welcomed by some on this forum, but Fascism can only last for so long before it is crushed like a bug that it deserves to be. But one cannot expect Cypriotism to just come by itself. Without respecting each persons individual Human Rights, it will not happen, and the Fascist will want to continue the violation of individuals Human Rights, so that Cypriotism does not take hold. So don't look too far down the road as to who may be at fault for not wanting Cypriotism to take hold, because the cause may be much closer to you than you may have previously thought.!!
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Postby humanist » Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:52 am

I was 6 years of age, myfather went to the war at some stage he went missing and my mother and grandmother (his mother) walked from a village 45 km west of Nicosia to a village east of Pentadaktilos to find him, thankfully they did, that was not the case with my mother's younger brother who was one of the missing till 3-4 years ago.

I remember waking up one morning with about 35 refugees in our lounge room and my bedroom, my mother, grandmother, and mum's sister myself and brother shared a room for about two months, my mother's mother is still occupied by the Turks.
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Postby Kikapu » Fri Jan 25, 2008 12:43 pm

purdey wrote:Kikapu,
excellent piece,I enjoyed reading it.I am glad you ate in Petros cafe,a good man.Next time you visit,I hope there is a next time.You must cross the road from Lania and see another old village,we will make you welcome.


I really enjoyed talking with the owner of "Petros Cafe". Very genuine Cypriot indeed. We also very much enjoyed Lania. If I make a return trip to Cyprus, then I will ask you to give me the name of your village, which may be close to Lania..
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Postby zan » Fri Jan 25, 2008 8:06 pm

humanist wrote:I was 6 years of age, myfather went to the war at some stage he went missing and my mother and grandmother (his mother) walked from a village 45 km west of Nicosia to a village east of Pentadaktilos to find him, thankfully they did, that was not the case with my mother's younger brother who was one of the missing till 3-4 years ago.

I remember waking up one morning with about 35 refugees in our lounge room and my bedroom, my mother, grandmother, and mum's sister myself and brother shared a room for about two months, my mother's mother is still occupied by the Turks.


I was three years old when my mother took us to see the house where those children were killed in the bath.........She was too scared to leave us alone in the house in case more attacks came. She has had to live with that for all her life.
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Postby humanist » Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:26 pm

I am sorry for your exerience Zan and I am sorry that your mother had to go through out her life with such fear and visions of the event. I hope that no Cypriot child ever experiences that again.

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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Jan 25, 2008 11:47 pm

purdey wrote:Not writers fright,but maybe a pointless excercise.There is little point in trying to explain what I and my family went through.I will be lambasted by both sides for either been a Turkish lover or a Cypriot lover.
Suffice to say we had friends and neighbours on both sides of the island who lost evreything not because they were Turkish or Cypriot but because they were CYPRIOT.



Purdey, you just tell the truth. The responses will help you decide who is who. No one can deny YOUR experiences. They were not there.
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Postby humanist » Sat Jan 26, 2008 1:11 am

Deniz
No one can deny YOUR experiences.
ain't that thr truth
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Postby denizaksulu » Sat Jan 26, 2008 1:19 am

humanist wrote:Deniz
No one can deny YOUR experiences.
ain't that thr truth



Hi humanist. Yes, the truth. Unfortunately 'History Books' are not written to tell the truth. I have been reading 'Uludags' interviews re: the missing. Bloody shocking. Oops, wrong thread. Not feeling myself lately, Some GC leaving to live in Paphos/Cyprus must have 'dropped' a few bugs around my way. :cry:
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Postby zan » Sat Jan 26, 2008 3:14 am

humanist wrote:I am sorry for your exerience Zan and I am sorry that your mother had to go through out her life with such fear and visions of the event. I hope that no Cypriot child ever experiences that again.

Warmest regards
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Thank you Andreas and I echo your sentiments. I would rather argue here for the rest of my life than to see another person dead from war.
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