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Cyprus Documentary, Part I: The EOKA years, 1955-59

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Main_Source » Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:00 pm

Sadik, I do not think the answer to coming to a solution is to rush in a plan, because that happened before and the plan in the end was a total joke which favoured the Turkish government ridiculously.

If you look at it, things have progressed quite well in the short space of time since the opening on the Green Line, but no one said the progression is going to be perfect. I honestly think that the RoC is doing their fair share to bring unity to the island, which I also do not think Turkey is doing on the flipside. At the end of the day, why should the Cyprus government hand over harbours and airports stolen by Turkey?

The RoC seems to be trying to bring a unity, whereas the powers that be in the north do not seem to want to do the same, even though they publicly state they do. All I keep seeing from actions from the north, is that people want partition. That isnt the way forward at all.

Insan, you've lost all credibility. Dont try and ask me for 'the right'...I know what your trying to imply and its a petty tactic straight out of the Denktash handbook. Your full of sh!t (watch him try and say that calling him 'full of sh!t is a sign of Greek Cypriot agression against the poor defenceless Turkish Cypriots lol)
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Postby insan » Thu Mar 31, 2005 7:06 pm

Insan, you've lost all credibility. Dont try and ask me for 'the right'...I know what your trying to imply and its a petty tactic straight out of the Denktash handbook. Your full of sh!t (watch him try and say that calling him 'full of sh!t is a sign of Greek Cypriot agression against the poor defenceless Turkish Cypriots lol)


You better wash your shitty mouth and come back with your arguments.
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Postby Andrik » Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:35 pm

How bout that coffee we were going to have??
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Postby insan » Thu Mar 31, 2005 8:41 pm

Andrik wrote:How bout that coffee we were going to have??


Andrik, pm me your detailed info. Likes and dislikes, etc... BTW, I'm an under-aged little girl. Beware. :lol:
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Postby sadik » Fri Apr 01, 2005 12:51 pm

Alexandros Lordos wrote:I think this particular point was being intensely debated by Greek Cypriots in the 50s and 60s. The most "moderate" were in favour of allowing the TCs to stay in Cyprus as a protected minority, the more "nationalistic" favored their deportation, while a gang of criminals was preferring to go the "direct way" :?

It would be interesting to try and work out how each particular GC leader of the time stood on this issue.


Any idea what Tassos' position was those days? Was it any different than his current position of "strangling TCs with love"?
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Postby Alexandros Lordos » Fri Apr 01, 2005 1:20 pm

sadik wrote:
Alexandros Lordos wrote:I think this particular point was being intensely debated by Greek Cypriots in the 50s and 60s. The most "moderate" were in favour of allowing the TCs to stay in Cyprus as a protected minority, the more "nationalistic" favored their deportation, while a gang of criminals was preferring to go the "direct way" :?

It would be interesting to try and work out how each particular GC leader of the time stood on this issue.


Any idea what Tassos' position was those days? Was it any different than his current position of "strangling TCs with love"?


If Martin Packard is to be believed (he is a former British agent who worked in Cyprus in the 60s and knows Tassos quite well), Tassos was definitely of the "TCs as protected minority" philosophy, back then. Tassos was the least right-wing of the GC leading group of that time (which included Giorkatzis, Clerides, Sampson, Panagides and of course their leader Makarios), and Martin Packard described him as "the voice of moderation", "who was concerned to find ways to relieve inter-communal tension", "and sought to protect TCs from the aggression of extremist GCs".

Surprising, heh? :wink:
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Postby sadik » Sat Apr 02, 2005 8:04 pm

I don't know if he's to be trusted or not but Martin Packard has an article published in Cyprus Mail, in which he makes some very interesting comments.

(...)The mediating process then, which came close to success, depended on two men, Tassos Papadopoulos and Fazil Kutchuk. Each was a Cypriot nationalist, rather than a Greek or Turkish one; but each was prepared to seek a new and workable partnership.(...)

Full article here
http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.ph ... 2&cat_id=1
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Postby Bananiot » Sun Apr 03, 2005 6:29 pm

I think, EOKA was careful not to provoke the TC's because they knew that their community was not in favour of enosis, so targeting the TC's would mean opening two fronts, or better, three fronts, because EOKA targeted leftists quite openly, especially in the Famagusta district. In fact, Papadopoulos made it a tactical move, which of course did not console much the TC's who were very scared by the idea of enosis.

In today's "Politis" Droushiotis makes further claims of Papadopoulos's involvement as the area leader of EOKA, in ordering the murders of leftists. That is the reason of course why the older members of AKEL reacted very angrily when the Party's leadership chose Papadopoulos as its candidate in the presidential elections of 2003.
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