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[Andrik]

I would like to see you try!
On your own..no aid from anywhere..Just tourism!

[insan]

I would like to see you try!
On your own..no aid from anywhere..Just tourism!

Of course, andriko grikgo.

[Andrik]

Its grigko!
And Andrikko..

Do you want to meet me somewhere in the South part of my country for coffee??

[insan]

I don't think we have much in common to share when we meet for a coffee. Does it worth just for drinking a coffee and looking each others face meaninglessly?

[Main_Source]

This is crap. The Cyprus government agrees to pay for the healthcare of TC living in the North and you still think its part of a conspiracy theory...like WTF!? Everything the Cyprus government throws out as a peace branch, you seem to turn into a negative and want to keep the illegal state of North Cyprus. The only way you will be happy is with the Annan plan, which is a disguised partition. The RoC is trying to do its best bit by bit to help bring unity in certain ways but you throw it back in there face....all so you can keep the hold of the land stolen in the north. At the end of the day, people like you Insan seem to be secret partionists and want to recoginise the 'TRNC'.

Much of the hotels and bars used for tourism are legally own by many GC's...and yes you can turn round and say many TC have land in the south which GC may be making money off...but the RoC is doing its best to make sure it goes back to its legal owners.

From all that i've read from you and VP in the short time i've been here, it seems that you both keep on throwing ridiculous and unreasonable obsticles in the air to keep the illegal 'TRNC'.

[insan]

This is crap. The Cyprus government agrees to pay for the healthcare of TC living in the North and you still think its part of a conspiracy theory...like WTF!? Everything the Cyprus government throws out as a peace branch, you seem to turn into a negative and want to keep the illegal state of North Cyprus. The only way you will be happy is with the Annan plan, which is a disguised partition. The RoC is trying to do its best bit by bit to help bring unity in certain ways but you throw it back in there face....all so you can keep the hold of the land stolen in the north. At the end of the day, people like you Insan seem to be secret partionists and want to recoginise the 'TRNC'.

Much of the hotels and bars used for tourism are legally own by many GC's...and yes you can turn round and say many TC have land in the south which GC may be making money off...but the RoC is doing its best to make sure it goes back to its legal owners.

From all that i've read from you and VP in the short time i've been here, it seems that you both keep on throwing ridiculous and unreasonable obsticles in the air to keep the illegal 'TRNC'.

I think completely the opposite.(Do I have the right to think completely different?) You don't seem to give me this right, though. It is obvious who is benefiting from the ongoing defacto-situation. For more than 30 years, all tourism income share of TCs has flown to South. While TC refugees made gain of GC properties 1 billion $; GC refugees and non-GCs made gain of TC properties 100 billion $. It is obvious who throws ridiculous and unreasonable obstacles in the air to keep the defacto situation up and run all for themselves.

[magikthrill]

Here comes your ignorance once again. Greece has visited Turkey and Turkey visited Greece. So what? It is nothing else than a so-called friendship show. It is US and NATO that force them for rapproachment and improving their reciprocal relations. Greece has always masked itself behind a smiley face but kept implementing its hostile policies towards Turkey. You well know hostile attitudes of Greek government and some financially strong Hellenic political groups, against Turkey. For the sake of Greek-American-Nato relations Greece smiles Turkey but keep maintaining its known stance against Turkey.

Ok smart guy. Tell me one hostile Greek policy towards Turkey. Not the muslims of Greece but Turkey the nation. Are you referring to the continuing violation of air space perhaps? Oh wait Im sorry; Turkey is doing tthat to Greece

Many times I've quoted their speeches which clearly shows that they have the same policy on cyprus problem but such a ignorant and blind like you; still keep asking me how could I claim that they had the same policy on Cyprus problem. magikbrillo, you are my favourite waste of time.

gracias senor. its always fun to tool around paranoid middle aged men.

According to their(GC&Greek) joint statements, on every ocassion; they reaffirm their common policy regarding the solution of Cyprus problem. They always emphasize that they have a full consensus on the common strategy concerning the solution of Cyprus problem.

the main opposition party of Greece voiced its strong support to the Annan plan even before they were removed from power my man. at least thats what ive learned from the legal part of the world.

[Andrik]

I think completely the opposite.(Do I have the right to think completely different?) You don't seem to give me this right, though. It is obvious who is benefiting from the ongoing defacto-situation. For more than 30 years, all tourism income share of TCs has flown to South. While TC refugees made gain of GC properties 1 billion $; GC refugees and non-GCs made gain of TC properties 100 billion $. It is obvious who throws ridiculous and unreasonable obstacles in the air to keep the defacto situation up and run all for themselves.

Explain!

[insan]

I think completely the opposite.(Do I have the right to think completely different?) You don't seem to give me this right, though. It is obvious who is benefiting from the ongoing defacto-situation. For more than 30 years, all tourism income share of TCs has flown to South. While TC refugees made gain of GC properties 1 billion $; GC refugees and non-GC refugees made gain of TC properties 100 billion $. It is obvious who throws ridiculous and unreasonable obstacles in the air to keep the defacto situation up and run all for themselves.

Explain!

Already explained!

[sadik]

This is crap. The Cyprus government agrees to pay for the healthcare of TC living in the North and you still think its part of a conspiracy theory...like WTF!? Everything the Cyprus government throws out as a peace branch, you seem to turn into a negative and want to keep the illegal state of North Cyprus. The only way you will be happy is with the Annan plan, which is a disguised partition. The RoC is trying to do its best bit by bit to help bring unity in certain ways but you throw it back in there face....all so you can keep the hold of the land stolen in the north. At the end of the day, people like you Insan seem to be secret partionists and want to recoginise the 'TRNC'.

Much of the hotels and bars used for tourism are legally own by many GC's...and yes you can turn round and say many TC have land in the south which GC may be making money off...but the RoC is doing its best to make sure it goes back to its legal owners.

From all that i've read from you and VP in the short time i've been here, it seems that you both keep on throwing ridiculous and unreasonable obsticles in the air to keep the illegal 'TRNC'.

Hi, Main_Source...
You should know that not all TCs agree on these things. I personally think that the healthcare RoC is providing to TCs is a good thing. And so does many TCs who use these services, otherwise they would not go to those hospitals. I also think that GC doctors and nurses working in these institutions are doing a great job. I have only heard good comments from TCs regarding these hospitals. Though I don't agree RoC is doing its best trying to treat TCs well. Constraction workers, for example, who cross every day for work in the south are usually treated very badly and they mostly work with no social insurance, no benefits under harsh conditions. Intentions are not as good as you claim to be, nevertheless, we cannot deny that there are some positive things as well.

When we look at the current situations and what is possible in the future, we need to know that we are bound by certain historical facts, one of which is the RoC. But this goes both ways. RoC legally exists. It's foolish to deny something the whole world sees. On the other hand TC rights of partnership and political equality is alse real. Its in the treaty of establishment and it's bindnig. In this respect, initiating majority/minority discussions is also foolish. 1977 high level agreements between the two sides which outline a bi-zonal, bi-communal federation as the viable solution are also real. Parameters are actually very well defined by us, by the history and by the international community, and the TCs in the end will have a "legal" federated state, that is a part of the new or modified RoC. The question is how can we reach a solution within these parameters and satisfy both sides to a certain extent.