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Condemnation of Turkey by the European Court of Human Rights

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Pumpy » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:15 am

Eric dayi wrote:I am not "blathering" I am saying that the one who claims to be a "humanist" is not a humanist but a snake in the grass. Do you have a problem with that?


Steady on!
I know democratic discussion comes hard for a Turk, not being used to such systems, but on forums such as this, people are allowed to express 'opinions' without fear of the soldier's jackboot.

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Postby Eric dayi » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:27 am

Pumpy wrote:
Eric dayi wrote:I am not "blathering" I am saying that the one who claims to be a "humanist" is not a humanist but a snake in the grass. Do you have a problem with that?


Steady on!
I know democratic discussion comes hard for a Turk, not being used to such systems, but on forums such as this, people are allowed to express 'opinions' without fear of the soldier's jackboot.

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Do you know what "democratic" or "humanist" means at all or are you trying to make a noise just for the fun of it?

Does your two cell brain tell you that being "democratic" and "humanist" is when a GC tries to force me to stop identifying myself as a Turkish Cypriot?
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Postby Pumpy » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:29 am

Eric, I have not called you names and insulted you, so watch how you speak to me, ok?

You have the right to call yourself a Turkish Cypriot and as it happens, I am a huge fan of TCs and I believe they were treated disgustingly by us GCs in the 60s and 70s.

No argument. But steady on, if people wisj to put their views across, they can. No need to get narky.
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Postby Eric dayi » Mon Jan 21, 2008 12:51 am

Pumpy wrote:Eric, I have not called you names and insulted you, so watch how you speak to me, ok?


Your first posting was "Eric, what are you blathering on about?" then you followed that with ""I know democratic discussion comes hard for a Turk," and you you claim that you have not insulted me? No pal, you not only insulted me but the whole Turkish nation so don't expect me to watch how I speak to you. Learn to watch how you speak to me and others first before giving me and advise.

You have the right to call yourself a Turkish Cypriot


The tell that to that blithering snake in the grass and his equally racist pals who demand that I drop the Turkish.

and as it happens, I am a huge fan of TCs and I believe they were treated disgustingly by us GCs in the 60s and 70s.


Only then? What about today still? Or do you think the demands by you GCs to be the sole rulers of the whole of Cyprus and us as second class minority whose language will be removed as an official language in Cyprus
without any say in our future is a fair?

No argument. But steady on, if people wisj to put their views across, they can. No need to get narky.


So can I and I have the same right as they have and will reply to anyone with the same kind of tone they use and I don't give a damn who or what they are. I call a liar a liar, a fool a fool, a racist a racist, an idiot an idiot
and a twat a twat. If anyone doesn't want me to call them names then they had better make sure they are not in the above list.
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Postby Pumpy » Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:24 am

My, your a prissy one aren't you? Who stole the dummy out of your mouth?

I'm interested by one decent point you raised. How are the TCs being ill-treated now? Havent't they claimed their own State? Does the South not supply you with electricity?

Explain this second class thing, I'm not sure how this is relevant to today's situation.
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Postby Eric dayi » Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:53 am

Pumpy wrote:My, your a prissy one aren't you?


If you think you can get away with insulting me and my nation pal you got another think coming your way.


Who stole the dummy out of your mouth?


What's that you got in your mouth?


I'm interested by one decent point you raised. How are the TCs being ill-treated now? Havent't they claimed their own State? Does the South not supply you with electricity?


Don't you think these are silly questions for someone who seems to know a lot about Cyprus?

Yes pal, we have our own State but I am surprised that you have not heard about the embargoes and the isolation imposed on us by the greedy GCs who want to be the sole owners and rulers of the whole of Cyprus and are trying to strangle us in the hope that we give up and surrender.

The South Greek Cyprus has only supplied us with electricity so that they can boast to the EU that the TCs are not fit to rule themselves. That aside, the electricity wasn't supplied as a present, it was paid for.

Explain this second class thing, I'm not sure how this is relevant to today's situation.


Read again what I posted above and try to understand what I said about GCs demand to be the sole rulers of the whole of Cyprus. After starting the attempted genocide war in 1960 the GCs are still demanding the same as they did then.

If the GCs got their wish and become the sole owners/rulers of the country with us TCs as a minority with no say in our own future what's to stop the GCs from declaring ENOSIS with Greece? And if that was to happen we would suffer the same fate as the Turks in Greece and will not be able to call ourselves Turkish Cypriots but will be known as Greek Muslims.
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Jan 21, 2008 1:59 am

This is a bad time for you girls to be fighting considering that GR is back with a nasty grin on his face… :lol:
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Postby Pumpy » Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:01 am

LOL! Is that what the propagandists and 'rulers' of your little quasi unrecognised 'State' tell you? That you would become Greek Muslims and live Stateless under forced Enosis?

No, my friend. You are ill-informed and laughable in your ignorance. Enosis is old hat, it would never be permitted to enter even the political lexicon of any future united Island State. The EU wouldn't allow it, for one thing.

Let's clarify shall we? Enosis was wrong, but it's a historical policy and there is no viable hope of it being reinstituted.

As far as embargoes fo, I think it's safe to assume that while Turkey was provided with the right to brutally invade, thus leaving rape, pillage and murder in its wake, the GCs have the right to, in turn, react and put up certain barriers. Just because they have done well for themselves (well, that is a result of democracy after all) there's no point in spitting the dummy and getting all jealous and upset. You can't have it both ways. If you did have it both ways, you'd have taken the whole Island, but as your 'rulers' jolly well know, us Brits weren't going to have that. We have sovereign Queen's territory to protect, don't you know.

In short, Eric, you need to learn manners and how to debate and understand your opponent fairly. At the moment, you sound off like a spoilt agitator, not knowing which person's head to chomp off next.

I suggest you read more and educate yourself. It may help you become less bumptuously ill-informed.
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Postby Eric dayi » Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:03 am

Get Real! wrote:This is a bad time for you girls to be fighting considering that GR is back with a nasty grin on his face… :lol:


GR the bimbo with a nasty grin? Yep, I knew I had seen a picture of you somewhere.

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Postby humanist » Mon Jan 21, 2008 2:17 am

The so called "humanist" is now doing the same to you as he did to me, he does not "understand" that you want to be identified as a Turkish Cypriot and not only as a "Cypriot". When I told him that I refuse to drop the Turkish he with the help of his GCs compatriots called me a foreigner. This is their way of trying to force us TCs to forget our Turkishness and become "Cypriots only". They hope that if we drop the Turkish then we become supposedly "Cypriots" like them and agree to a one man one vote
shite they are trying to push down our throats. It is the GCs way of achieving a GCs only ruled island and eventually ENOSIS when they have the upper hand.


Eric I call all these LIES and you are a LIAR .......... Administraion please take not that this Eric makes up blatant lies about other users. I hgave never had a single discussion with him. His posts are nothing but racist propaganda and I wish not to converse with him. Hopwever I will acceopt him saying thing I have not said to him.
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