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[Nikitas]

Copperline,

Whatever happened to the basics of international law accepted since the end of World War II and enshrined in the UN charter- namely there will be no aggrandisement of territory through war and that colonisation of occupied territory is an international crime?

Your post sounds like sophistry when you discuss the legality of citizenship granted by the TRNC. The point is not whether settlers' citizenship is lawful or not. The point is that they are brought over in the first place. As for the comparison with other foreign nationals- UK Germany etc- there is no comparison. Settlers are brought with particular political aims and pursuant to plans, as explained in detail by Erdogan. They are politically active and encouraged to alter the political will of TCs as well as the dmographics of the TRNC itself and the island as a whole. This is not what UK and other retirees and investors are doing.

If you take the view that the militarily stronger side can do as it pleases then that is OK too, as long as you state this position clearly and unequiivocally, because it looks that this is the real point you are making but not stating it clearly.

[zan]

Copperline,

Whatever happened to the basics of international law accepted since the end of World War II and enshrined in the UN charter- namely there will be no aggrandisement of territory through war and that colonisation of occupied territory is an international crime?

Your post sounds like sophistry when you discuss the legality of citizenship granted by the TRNC. The point is not whether settlers' citizenship is lawful or not. The point is that they are brought over in the first place. As for the comparison with other foreign nationals- UK Germany etc- there is no comparison. Settlers are brought with particular political aims and pursuant to plans, as explained in detail by Erdogan. They are politically active and encouraged to alter the political will of TCs as well as the dmographics of the TRNC itself and the island as a whole. This is not what UK and other retirees and investors are doing.

If you take the view that the militarily stronger side can do as it pleases then that is OK too, as long as you state this position clearly and unequiivocally, because it looks that this is the real point you are making but not stating it clearly.

Well it seems they can turn a blind eye in many cases Nikitas......When Greeks did the very same thing in Cyprus they were given the governmental power on a plate so maybe hey are redressing the wrongs....

[Nikitas]

Zan,

are you claiming that Greece occupied part of Cyprus and colonised it after 1960?

[zan]

Zan,

are you claiming that Greece occupied part of Cyprus and colonised it after 1960?

Yeh!!!!Was it 20,000 soldiers and about 300,000 more people since then...Or there abouts...That is why I keep asking for the real numbers of original GCs........

[Nikitas]

Zan you are totally crazy. 300 000 Greek mainlanders in Cyprus and they hid them where? How come the place is not flooded with them and we do not hear mainland Greek spoken on every street corner. You are obviously on some mind altering substance.

You can retrieve Cyprus population figures from the British archives, open source stuff, as well as the first census carried out after 1960. It has been posted on here several times.

[Nikitas]

I am trying to remember mainland Greeks who lived in Cyprus and I knew after 1960. There was the late Roussakis who worked for RIK, married to a Cypriot. He died in a swimming accident in Famagusta in 1973. We had three high school teachers in Famagusta in 1962, temporarily assigned, but I will count them in, along with one topographer who had been hired by the British but stayed on with a short term contract with the land registry. Funny coincidence, I bumped into him in Athens where he returned and is now retired. And I have esxhasted the mainland Greeks I knew in Cyprus up to 1963. Add one more, my mother who became a citizen in the 40s.

Now if there had been 300 000 I should have met a lot more of them, statistical probabilitied being what they are.

[humanist]

Nikitas, you may ad my father's cousin's husband ........ a Greek sailor who lived in Cyprus with his wife and had a child

sorry Nikitas I just couldn't resist

[zan]

Zan you are totally crazy. 300 000 Greek mainlanders in Cyprus and they hid them where? How come the place is not flooded with them and we do not hear mainland Greek spoken on every street corner. You are obviously on some mind altering substance.

You can retrieve Cyprus population figures from the British archives, open source stuff, as well as the first census carried out after 1960. It has been posted on here several times.

i said 300,000 people not necessarily Greek mainlanders but never mind....it is so hard to get you people to admit to anything...

[Kikapu]

Gc's 0 - Little Turkey 10

Are you talking about number of Human Rights Violations or what.??

No the difference in relations, cooperation and the winner between the 2, its no match Gcs = 1960 to 1974 or Little Turkey = 1974 to 2008.

VP,

You make less sense than your hero Sampson, as your signature indicates.!!

[humanist]

Turkey is playing with people's lives.

Turkish Troops Out of Cyprus now