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“Citizenship” for 50 thousand settlers

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby umit07 » Fri Jan 18, 2008 8:11 pm

Yes Greek75 I can tell you that at least 90% of TC living in the south are the Gypsies of Limmasol and it aint a big number. When it comes to people working in the south it's not more than 3000 and most are construction workers who don't work over there because they like it so much. When it comes to your view on living like "one nation" I'm saying it's nearly impossible. Just look at the past if by chance a GC man would marry a TC woman, the woman would change her name and become baptised and vise versa. The thing is that that is the way we lived like for years, you can't just become "one nation" all of a sudden. For god sake if they vetoed stuff like "rec. of the TRNC" I can accept that. But I can't accept vetoing direct flights, entry of TC uni. into the erasmus program and other humanitarian needs. Talat who was great gumbaros with Christofias even had to say "they would cut off the air we breath if they could" that coming from talat means it is to much. The situation now is the more the GC side attacks in such ways the more we feel like we can't live in one state without the reservations mentioned in the annan plan. This doesn't man I hate GC's, I just am not sure of how things will work out so we have to be protective of ourselves. All the crap the ROC does which they think is "preventing the recognition of the TRNC" is just pouring petrol on a fire, in the end if it continues they will end up burning themselves for good.
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Postby Jerry » Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:30 pm

Umit you have not been on this site very long, all the points you raise have been "discussed" before. Both sides have issues with each other - like stop building on our land, let us return home, give us back Famagusta, stop the abuse of the few hundred GCs who live in the Karpas, stop the illegal settlement of mainland Turks, send the Turkish troops home etc etc. The principal difference in the issues we have is our demands are against your illegal acts whereas the sanctions we apply are quite legal. There's a bit of brinkmanship going on here, you hope that changing the demography of the north will force us to settle on your terms whilst we hope that your economic bankrupcy (without Turkey you would be anyway) will gain us an advantage. You won't help us , why should we help you.
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Postby Eric dayi » Sat Jan 19, 2008 12:01 am

Jerry wrote:Umit you have not been on this site very long, all the points you raise have been "discussed" before. Both sides have issues with each other - like stop building on our land, let us return home, give us back Famagusta, stop the abuse of the few hundred GCs who live in the Karpas, stop the illegal settlement of mainland Turks, send the Turkish troops home etc etc. The principal difference in the issues we have is our demands are against your illegal acts whereas the sanctions we apply are quite legal. There's a bit of brinkmanship going on here, you hope that changing the demography of the north will force us to settle on your terms whilst we hope that your economic bankrupcy (without Turkey you would be anyway) will gain us an advantage. You won't help us , why should we help you.


We don't want your help pal, you stay on your side and we'll stay on ours, simple solution...partition.
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Postby umit07 » Sat Jan 19, 2008 12:15 am

Jerry what are you trying to say, that if GC's violate human rights it's legal if we do it it's illegal.,??????????????????
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Postby Jerry » Sat Jan 19, 2008 1:28 am

Umit, specifically which human rights are we violating and how are they illegal? Are you seriously trying to tell me that what you have done to the Greek Cypriot inhabitants is legal?
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Postby eracles » Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:21 pm

Eric dayi wrote:
We don't want your help pal, you stay on your side and we'll stay on ours, simple solution...partition.


your side is across the water in turkey dayi - no need for partition :P
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Postby Eric dayi » Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:22 pm

eracles wrote:
Eric dayi wrote:
We don't want your help pal, you stay on your side and we'll stay on ours, simple solution...partition.


your side is across the water in turkey dayi - no need for partition :P


My side is across the border between the TRNC and South Greek Cyprus and there I will stay, safe and sound. :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:
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Postby alexISS » Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:32 pm

Haven't you people realized that partition is out of the questioon because Turkey does not want it anymore? Can't you see that the very same people that used to say "the problem was solved in 74" now beg for a settlement because they are after EU money? Your big mama has no intention of satisfying your partition dreams :)
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Postby BC Numismatics » Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:43 pm

Eric,there's no such place as 'Greek Cyprus',nor is there any such place as 'Turkish Cyprus'.There is only one country called Cyprus - which covers the whole island,except for where the Sovereign Base Areas are located.

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Postby Kikapu » Sun Jan 20, 2008 1:42 am

Kikapu wrote:Soon the TC's will lose their majority in the "TRNC Government".

Soon we will be saying, welcome to "little Turkey".


I just wanted to expand on my on post here.

I had this conversation with VP not too long ago about Turkey demanding "TRNC" to give 50,000 Settlers a "TRNC Citizenship's" or else Turkey was not going to pay the 13th salaries of the "Government" workers. Well, it seems like, for a lousy few hundred dollars into the pockets of the bureaucrats was all it took to give Turkey what she wanted.

Can someone please remind me again as to who is running the show in the "TRNC".??

Here is part of that conversation

Kikapu wrote:Lets see if the "TRNC" is willing to sell "citizenship's" for money, and not for a lot of money at that, I may add. A 13th salary cannot be worth more than few hundred dollars on average. If they "prostitute" themselves on this one, then it wont be long before they will be blackmailed on the 12th salary, then the 11th, then the 10th and so on. Before too long, the TC's will be blackmailed in everything that can be taken away from them. How long before the TC's will be telling the newly arriving Turks in the "TRNC"...."welcome to your country".!!!


Viewpoint wrote:Look at the facts, has the 13th Salary been paid..Yes, has 50.000 people been made citizens of the TRNC ...No...


http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus15003-10.html

How many times must I repeat "Money Talks...Bullshit Walks"

Here is an old Turkish Proverb:

" Parayi veren Düdükü çalar"

"He who pays the Money, gets to play the Whistle"

( He who pays the Money, gets to become Happy)
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