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[BC Numismatics]

A great deal, I think. Entry into the EU, for a start!

Bananiot,Turkey isn't even a European country at all.It is a Middle Eastern country anyway!

Aidan.

[umit07]

every day philieftheros the newspaper over here translates an editorial from one of the TC papers ranging from Volkan, Halkan sesi (hope i wrote that right) kibris, afrika...etc. The other day i forget which tc journalist it was...(pretty sure it wasn't levent) was saying how there is a strategic plan to make the population in the occupied area 1,000,000 within 10 years!!

I guess you gotta keep those G3's well oiled then .

[Eric dayi]

Soon the TC's will lose their majority in the "TRNC Government".

Soon we will be saying, welcome to "little Turkey".

"Little Greece" would suit you a lot more, wouldn't it, kick-a-poo? More audiences for your belly dancing shows eh?

[Kifeas]

In that case Turkey would shoulder the blame and face the consequences, provided we reconnect her European aspirations with the solution of the Cyprus problem.

Not only Turkey's EU accession aspirations are already firmly connected with a solution (how couldn't they be;) but also its mere accession process is also connected, for by 2009 it will have to open its ports and airports to Cypriot carriers but more importantly it has to normalize relations (recognize) with the RoC, otherwise the accession process will be frozen for good! Turkey, as we know, will never recognize the RoC without a solution!

It is cheap propaganda from Papadopoulos opponents to claim that Turkey was given the go ahead without the obligation to compromise and facilitate a solution in Cyprus! It is pure fantasy!

[greek75]

Actually, normalize relations does not only mean recongintion. Cyprus does not really care about recongnition from Turkey ... the ports were open until 1983 ... so what. Normalize relations means the end of the state of war between the 2 countries. Currently the Republic of Cyprus is in a state of war with the Republic of Turkey and the hostilities have been halted temporarily. That is an unacceptable situation for (maybe someday) 2 member states of the EU. That is what normalize relations mean.
But anyhow it's common knowledge that Turkey will never join. If negotiations ever get close to an end and that is a VERY big ever, France is holding a referendum on the subject. Does anyone believe that French voters will ever vote yes? They voted no to the EU constitution for crying out loud, not let Turkey in the EU.

[Jerry]

Turkish membership of the EU will mean the end of the ROC eventually. The free movement of citizens within the EU will mean that one day mainland Turks (with a little encouragement from their government) will be the majority in Cyprus.

ROC - RIP

[greek75]

Very true ...
Also consider that with the latest treaty that will replace the EU constitution Turkey will have more votes than France and the UK and only slightly fewer to Germany. Of course this will change in 10 years time when the Turkish population will exceed that of Germany.
That my friends is why Turkey will never join the EU, that is why Cyprus is now in the EU and that is why the Cyprus problem will never be solved.

[umit07]

Very true ...
Also consider that with the latest treaty that will replace the EU constitution Turkey will have more votes than France and the UK and only slightly fewer to Germany. Of course this will change in 10 years time when the Turkish population will exceed that of Germany.
That my friends is why Turkey will never join the EU, that is why Cyprus is now in the EU and that is why the Cyprus problem will never be solved.

This is something I to see happening, the more repulsive the ROC acts in the EU the worse everything gets. If something doesn't happen fast it looks like it never will.

[greek75]

umit07, have you ever asked yourself why the ROC is acting like that in the EU?
Your statement reminds me of American news channels after the September 11 attacks. Terrorists, evil people, demons etc. NOBODY in the entire country ever sat down to think, hey, these people did not wake up one day and decided they want to die by killing Americans. What have we done to them to get them to this extreme situation?
Same with you. Why don't you ask yourself why ROC is acting like this? Is it maybe the 200.000 refugees, the 1500 missing, the lost property.
I know your answer already, it was to safe the TC for GC. Yeah fine, history will tell. What about now. Who are you trying to safe. TC are on the South, working, living, voting. What terrible thing has happened to them?

[Eric dayi]

umit07, have you ever asked yourself why the ROC is acting like that in the EU?
Your statement reminds me of American news channels after the September 11 attacks. Terrorists, evil people, demons etc. NOBODY in the entire country ever sat down to think, hey, these people did not wake up one day and decided they want to die by killing Americans. What have we done to them to get them to this extreme situation?
Same with you. Why don't you ask yourself why ROC is acting like this? Is it maybe the 200.000 refugees, the 1500 missing, the lost property.
I know your answer already, it was to safe the TC for GC. Yeah fine, history will tell. What about now. Who are you trying to safe. TC are on the South, working, living, voting. What terrible thing has happened to them?

They have become second class minority in their own country, isn't that terrible enough?

BTW, nothing will ever happen to them as long as the island is divided and
the Turkish Army is present on the island.

And the reason why the " "ROC" is acting like that in the EU"?

spoiled little brat who stamps his/her foot every time he/she does not get what he/she wants, comes to mind.