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[Sega]

Big deal

3% of an imaginary value.

Is that significant in the great scheme of things?

WTF?

No you're right, lets not bother trying to make sure that we are being told the truth anymore. Sod it, we'll swallow whatever we are told without question, it'll make things so much simpler.

No don't do that, it would make things simpler for them not for you. It will almost certainly cost you more in the long run. When I first came I accepted everything I was told, now I am slightly wiser.

[phoenix]

Big deal

3% of an imaginary value.

Is that significant in the great scheme of things?

WTF?

No you're right, lets not bother trying to make sure that we are being told the truth anymore. Sod it, we'll swallow whatever we are told without question, it'll make things so much simpler.

Gosh you do over-react.

Science is based on seeking of the truth . . . not man-made finances.

[123456]

Yes of course that's an over-reaction.

I post about how it *appears* that a press release is quoting a figure that does not match the source data and you respond with something along the lines of "*sigh* who cares, it's not important"

BTW I have no idea what you mean with your whole science versus man-made finances angle. I'm talking about the need for objective reporting and analysis and you seem to be concerned about hitting the bold button and emoticons.

[Southerner]

Buy sell are using the same tactics that they have used on UK Sky chanel 679, kidding people.
Tune in to 679 all you'll be told "But you must hurry they're going fast" or "There are only two left so phone this number now to reserve your place in the sun".

What I have seen are examples where people have taken their property out of the estate agents hands yet still ask the same price.
We looked at one property where the estate agents put it on at £145000, now I believe that means around £9000 to the estate agent, the owners seemed offended when we asked them to reduce the price by the fee that they would have to pay to the estate agent.

[cyprusgrump]

Yes of course that's an over-reaction.

I post about how it *appears* that a press release is quoting a figure that does not match the source data and you respond with something along the lines of "*sigh* who cares, it's not important"

BTW I have no idea what you mean with your whole science versus man-made finances angle. I'm talking about the need for objective reporting and analysis and you seem to be concerned about hitting the bold button and emoticons.

Calm down, calm down...

There will always people that believe whatever they are told and others like you (and me) that question it.

Quite frankly, you’ll never convince the former category to join the more enlightened of us (check out BC NUMISMATICS and Quamers for prime examples) so there is little point upsetting yourself about it…

[phoenix]

Yes of course that's an over-reaction.

I post about how it *appears* that a press release is quoting a figure that does not match the source data and you respond with something along the lines of "*sigh* who cares, it's not important"

BTW I have no idea what you mean with your whole science versus man-made finances angle. I'm talking about the need for objective reporting and analysis and you seem to be concerned about hitting the bold button and emoticons.

Calm down, calm down...

There will always people that believe whatever they are told and others like you (and me) that question it.

Quite frankly, you’ll never convince the former category to join the more enlightened of us (check out BC NUMISMATICS and Quamers for prime examples) so there is little point upsetting yourself about it…

It's a matter of priorities.

Some question life, you question money. Some care for philosophy, you care for finances.

Anyone who is not aware how statistics can be manipulated, needs to go back to school.

More fascinating than the 3% is the thinking and emotion behind the prompting of this thread.

Who is the enlightened one and who is the money-orientated pleb?

[cyprusgrump]

Yes of course that's an over-reaction.

I post about how it *appears* that a press release is quoting a figure that does not match the source data and you respond with something along the lines of "*sigh* who cares, it's not important"

BTW I have no idea what you mean with your whole science versus man-made finances angle. I'm talking about the need for objective reporting and analysis and you seem to be concerned about hitting the bold button and emoticons.

Calm down, calm down...

There will always people that believe whatever they are told and others like you (and me) that question it.

Quite frankly, you’ll never convince the former category to join the more enlightened of us (check out BC NUMISMATICS and Quamers for prime examples) so there is little point upsetting yourself about it…

It's a matter of priorities.

Some question life, you question money. Some care for philosophy, you care for finances.

Anyone who is not aware how statistics can be manipulated, needs to go back to school.

More fascinating than the 3% is the thinking and emotion behind the prompting of this thread.

Who is the enlightened one and who is the money-orientated pleb?

Someone who rushed out and bought a property based on flawed statistical evidence of market growth perhaps?

[phoenix]

Yes of course that's an over-reaction.

I post about how it *appears* that a press release is quoting a figure that does not match the source data and you respond with something along the lines of "*sigh* who cares, it's not important"

BTW I have no idea what you mean with your whole science versus man-made finances angle. I'm talking about the need for objective reporting and analysis and you seem to be concerned about hitting the bold button and emoticons.

Calm down, calm down...

There will always people that believe whatever they are told and others like you (and me) that question it.

Quite frankly, you’ll never convince the former category to join the more enlightened of us (check out BC NUMISMATICS and Quamers for prime examples) so there is little point upsetting yourself about it…

It's a matter of priorities.

Some question life, you question money. Some care for philosophy, you care for finances.

Anyone who is not aware how statistics can be manipulated, needs to go back to school.

More fascinating than the 3% is the thinking and emotion behind the prompting of this thread.

Who is the enlightened one and who is the money-orientated pleb?

Someone who rushed out and bought a property based on flawed statistical evidence of market growth perhaps?

..... not necessarily flawed.

Sounds like you were gambling (unaware ) and you lost.

Sorry cyprusgrump, hope you have better luck next time.

[Sega]

Estate agents and Letting agents alike only care about the end process of which they will be getting paid. The don't care too much about the landlord nor do they care about the seller, they more or less work for the buyers and the tenants and that's why they always stick up for them. The reason I say this is because they only way they can get paid is if one of those people respond.

Personally I would not believe anything they tell you, do your own research and make sure you are 100% correct. Go to more than one estate agent and ask for their advice, look at other sold properties. I am aware this is Cyprus and unfortunately the market is smaller but do it anyway. Then verify and make sure you are right before you proceed. Don't let them set the price, it's your property after all. Their valuation is always under-valued in order to get a quick sale and obtain the associated commission. Let's face it will probably be a few thousand.

[123456]

Some question life, you question money. Some care for philosophy, you care for finances.

Anyone who is not aware how statistics can be manipulated, needs to go back to school.

More fascinating than the 3% is the thinking and emotion behind the prompting of this thread.

Who is the enlightened one and who is the money-orientated pleb?

OMFG I cannot believe how quick people on this forum are to a) hijack a thread (if you are not interested in the topic then don't post a reply) and b) make wild assumptions about the motives of a user including being so arrogant as to make claims about a users own philosophy and finances!

FYI I have no interest in the property market in Cyprus, I do, however, have an interest in misinformation and propaganda and how they affect the macro-economics of a small society such as Cyprus.

This island, with its tortured history, is riddled with examples of how lies and half-truths go unchallenged day in and day out, often resulting in deepening the divisions between north and south, rich and poor. But nobody seems to care anyway as this thread seems to highlight.

You seem all too quick to make statements about how much purer your philosophical motives are than mine without knowing one jot about me.

A few lines from a Kaiser Chiefs recent song springs to mind about the likes of you:

"We are the angry mob, we read the papers every day, we like who we like and we hate who we hate but we're also easy to sway"

It's about the ignorant masses who allow themselves to be manipulated by media and soundbite and talking heads every day.

So you consider yourself enlightened? LOL.