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The day after.

Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:07 pm

Let's assume we have a re-unification solution.

Don't concentrate much on the political issue, concentrate more on everyday life issues. How will your life be? What changes do you expect to see? Consider this as n exercise to check if your fears or expectations are valid.
For example if you are a TC and you are living in or using a GC property what do you expect to happen?
Do you expect to see whole caravans of people packed up to move back to their former homes?
Do you expect rapid changes or do you expect extremely slow changes that would make you wonder what has really changed?
Let us for the moment concentrate on the first year after.

Write whatever you like as long as you have worked it in your mind and you expect it to be like that.
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Postby Sotos » Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:09 pm

I think what will happen depends very much on the kind of solution.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:30 pm

OK then. Describe shortly the type of solution you want or expect to be, and how life will change compared to today.

NB. i will do so later but I first want to see if there's room for discussion.
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Postby Sotos » Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:48 pm

ok. I want a solution that I can take my property back and it will be fair and stable. My life will change because I will be much more comfortable financially, the Cyprus problem will be solved and I will not have to go to the army again! What I don't want is a bad solution that will be unstable and will affect our economy. Or a solution that will allow a lot of settlers to stay and everywhere we walk we will see settlers! And for sure I don't want to see any Turkish troops!
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Postby shahmaran » Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:52 pm

The only immediate difference the solution will make in my life would be watching the Southerners move in, and I don't want to see any more Greeks around me then i already do, is that really selfish? :roll:
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Postby denizaksulu » Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:32 pm

shahmaran wrote:The only immediate difference the solution will make in my life would be watching the Southerners move in, and I don't want to see any more Greeks around me then i already do, is that really selfish? :roll:

It is if you live in their home and they live in a refugee camp.
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Postby shahmaran » Mon Jan 14, 2008 5:48 pm

I dont.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:41 pm

OK this is how I see things evolving:
If you are a government employee you will still be working at your old job but somehow they will tell you the name has changed. Some very few will be transfered at will to the Federal Department. The new thing in our lives will be the Feds, but it will take time to see them around and notice what they will be actually doing.
If you are working in the private sector, you will continue doing what you are already doing.Most probably there will be more job opportunities for the TCs, especially for those who have specialized experience in economics/banking/hotel management etc

In the first year the majority of refugees from both sides will try to do some arrangements with their properties according to what the agreement has been.I expect to see a lot of paperwork at government level and a lot of activity in property sales/exchanges etc. This is when imo they rich and the speculators will jump in and basically rob the poor.

I don't expect many people packing to move back to their original villages. The majority of movement will be in areas near to what today is the border line. The majority of people who will go settle deep into the other Fed state will be pensioners or expats.

The GC banks will certainly open 2-3 branches in the "new areas" mainly for serving their already existing TC clientele. Bussiness people will start cooperating mainly for making branches in the other side, but I don't think anyone will move his production fascilities or headquarters from where they are now.

The TC fed state will increase the number of tourists it gets but because the "hen that lays golden eggs" has already started dieing in Cyprus it is doubtful it can ever boost the economy as t going doing for the GCs in the past.

What we will all notice is people traveling all over Cyprus much much easier, without any need to have a new insurance or stop at checkpoints. Generally there will be GCs and TCs mixed everywhere you look.But they won't be residents.Just people on the move. Nicosia will be the most mixed town in this respect.

The new Government structure will be more expensive that the existing one.The GCs will not like it. The TCs will be shocked when they realize what it means to having your own pocket been taxed rather than the one of the mainland Turks. The TCs will be having their own area where they will concentrate and be administered and in the begining feel national pride that at last they got their "partition". The pride will soon erode when they will realize how much they have to pay for it. The GCs will be disapointed from the very begining as they will see that re-unification did not mean going back to before 1974. They ill be allowed to return of course but very few will. They will get their properties but they will not be able to make any use of them. In the end they will be thinking what have they gained other than an unecessary "bela".
I don't even expect the Famagustans to be happy returning to their ghost town. Most propably they ill have to wait for at least 5 years until the infrastucture is completed and God knows how many will abandon their existing places of living to ever return.

Generally within the first year I believe nothing much will change, and everybody will feel that they never expected the solution to be such a dull thing. I believe changes will come very very slowly and it will take at least 30 more years to have some New Cypriot sense for the people living here.
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Postby shahmaran » Mon Jan 14, 2008 9:57 pm

Wow, although that's a nice read, its some pretty serious pessimsm Pyr, you almost would put one off from their desires of a solution.

So how about some speculation on the positive aspects of it?
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Postby DT. » Mon Jan 14, 2008 10:51 pm

shahmaran wrote:Wow, although that's a nice read, its some pretty serious pessimsm Pyr, you almost would put one off from their desires of a solution.

So how about some speculation on the positive aspects of it?


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