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Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:10 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:Thanks Copperline, after all we usually understand each other quite well in this forum.

The matter of how many people will return is indeed an issue. For the moment all I can tell for sure is that there is a certain percentage of refugees, say about 5% who will return for sentimental reasons/attachment to their hometown/village. At the same time there is a multiple times bigger percentage that say, they are settled to where they are now, and will never move back. The vast majority however say they will simply wait and see, and maybe just maybe return some day or forget all about it.

If I could draw an analogy how easy is it for you (assuming your roots are from Turkey or Cyprus) to abandon England and settle back to your hometown in Turkey or Cyprus? The same thing is for refugees (GCs and TCs)


You can certainly say that again Pyro. I am nearing retirement age and wish to live my retiring years in 'peaceful' :roll: Cyprus. It will be so difficult to leave the grandchildren behind in the UK. Every now and then I give up the idea. At the moment I am in a 'six months here and six months Cyprus' situation. Last year it was 3 mnths a time. There must be many thousands in the diaspora in the same situation. Everyday I re3ad of a GC or TC 'going back' home I am full of envy, yet I wonder who have they left behind. Lifes a b*tch. :roll:


I understand you perfectly Deniz.

Now if we are to draw the analogy a little further there are so many refugees at your age as many as passed away. The question is will your children ever return, will they ever do a 6-6 months stay, or will they be just coming for holidays?
Extend that to refugees, and imo it makes a perfect sense that the myth that many refugees will return is actually that: A MYTH.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Jan 15, 2008 6:23 pm

CopperLine wrote:As well as Cyprus, I know what goes on in other parts of the world regarding the call of the 'old country'. As an economist we can see the difference between willingness-to-pay and willingness-to-accept. Lots of people say that the old country is their real home, say that they would really like to return, say that the old country is the most important thing to them; but what they actually do is stay in the 'new' country to the Nth generation. I'm not doubting the sincerity of those claims about the old country, I'm just drawing the distinction between those who vote with their sentiments and those who vote with their feet. A settled Cyprus would, in the end, have to practically deal only with those who vote with their feet.


So Copperline if anyone would ask you to vote whether you would return to your "old country" would you vote with your feet or with your sentiment :wink: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Kikapu » Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:09 pm

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Pyrpolizer wrote: Every time that criminal comes here my heart is beating that they would plant him a bomb....


Pyro, just make sure that you do not drive the same model and colour car as this shady character, as not to have mistakes made.

We really do not want to read a new thread from you called the "Great Balls of Fire". :lol: :lol: :lol:


Well that would be easy IF he was driving the same car all the time. He changes cars perhaps every week or month. :shock: :shock: :shock: From expensive cars like Porche to cheap Japanese jeeps.:shock: :shock: :shock:

You should have seen that ugly skin head, how many precautions he takes before deciding to step out of the car...

Hey Kikapu, If "Great Balls of Fire" is ever on stage, I will be watching it live, whereas you will be waiting for the DVD. Now who is more lucky here? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You will most definitely will be in the Front Seat.!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Tue Jan 15, 2008 7:19 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
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Pyrpolizer wrote: Every time that criminal comes here my heart is beating that they would plant him a bomb....


Pyro, just make sure that you do not drive the same model and colour car as this shady character, as not to have mistakes made.

We really do not want to read a new thread from you called the "Great Balls of Fire". :lol: :lol: :lol:


Well that would be easy IF he was driving the same car all the time. He changes cars perhaps every week or month. :shock: :shock: :shock: From expensive cars like Porche to cheap Japanese jeeps.:shock: :shock: :shock:

You should have seen that ugly skin head, how many precautions he takes before deciding to step out of the car...

Hey Kikapu, If "Great Balls of Fire" is ever on stage, I will be watching it live, whereas you will be waiting for the DVD. Now who is more lucky here? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You will most definitely will be in the Front Seat.!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Mashalla-mashalla. What a great "mo-vie" to heaven that would be.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

70 Virgins will be waiting for me there. :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:


























































And one sunnetici :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:49 pm

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Pyrpolizer wrote:Thanks Copperline, after all we usually understand each other quite well in this forum.

The matter of how many people will return is indeed an issue. For the moment all I can tell for sure is that there is a certain percentage of refugees, say about 5% who will return for sentimental reasons/attachment to their hometown/village. At the same time there is a multiple times bigger percentage that say, they are settled to where they are now, and will never move back. The vast majority however say they will simply wait and see, and maybe just maybe return some day or forget all about it.

If I could draw an analogy how easy is it for you (assuming your roots are from Turkey or Cyprus) to abandon England and settle back to your hometown in Turkey or Cyprus? The same thing is for refugees (GCs and TCs)


You can certainly say that again Pyro. I am nearing retirement age and wish to live my retiring years in 'peaceful' :roll: Cyprus. It will be so difficult to leave the grandchildren behind in the UK. Every now and then I give up the idea. At the moment I am in a 'six months here and six months Cyprus' situation. Last year it was 3 mnths a time. There must be many thousands in the diaspora in the same situation. Everyday I re3ad of a GC or TC 'going back' home I am full of envy, yet I wonder who have they left behind. Lifes a b*tch. :roll:


I understand you perfectly Deniz.

Now if we are to draw the analogy a little further there are so many refugees at your age as many as passed away. The question is will your children ever return, will they ever do a 6-6 months stay, or will they be just coming for holidays?
Extend that to refugees, and imo it makes a perfect sense that the myth that many refugees will return is actually that: A MYTH.



Well Pyro. my 'children' do not have the same 'ties ' to Cyprus as I have. Unfortunately, it has always been 'holidays in the sun' for them and will be in the future when I find the right place to live in. As Copperline' hinted, my 'old country' will always mean more to me. When I do retire, I will certainly 'vote with my feet'. :lol:
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Jan 15, 2008 10:53 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
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Pyrpolizer wrote:Thanks Copperline, after all we usually understand each other quite well in this forum.

The matter of how many people will return is indeed an issue. For the moment all I can tell for sure is that there is a certain percentage of refugees, say about 5% who will return for sentimental reasons/attachment to their hometown/village. At the same time there is a multiple times bigger percentage that say, they are settled to where they are now, and will never move back. The vast majority however say they will simply wait and see, and maybe just maybe return some day or forget all about it.

If I could draw an analogy how easy is it for you (assuming your roots are from Turkey or Cyprus) to abandon England and settle back to your hometown in Turkey or Cyprus? The same thing is for refugees (GCs and TCs)


You can certainly say that again Pyro. I am nearing retirement age and wish to live my retiring years in 'peaceful' :roll: Cyprus. It will be so difficult to leave the grandchildren behind in the UK. Every now and then I give up the idea. At the moment I am in a 'six months here and six months Cyprus' situation. Last year it was 3 mnths a time. There must be many thousands in the diaspora in the same situation. Everyday I re3ad of a GC or TC 'going back' home I am full of envy, yet I wonder who have they left behind. Lifes a b*tch. :roll:


I understand you perfectly Deniz.

Now if we are to draw the analogy a little further there are so many refugees at your age as many as passed away. The question is will your children ever return, will they ever do a 6-6 months stay, or will they be just coming for holidays?
Extend that to refugees, and imo it makes a perfect sense that the myth that many refugees will return is actually that: A MYTH.


I did reckon that the children of the refugees (both sides) would be unlikely to move 'back'. However I thought the 'older' generation might be more likely to do so, so your reply to the contrary saddens me.
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Postby humanist » Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:07 pm

many things are ofetn said in gest. am seriously afraid of the hate some members on this forum show on the so called other side.

Personally if we unify my family would be happy to get compensation for our ancestral home and allow the current residents to conitnue living there, unless they are settlers and are moving back to Turkey or TC refugees mving to their ancestral homes.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:40 pm

humanist wrote:many things are ofetn said in gest. am seriously afraid of the hate some members on this forum show on the so called other side.

Personally if we unify my family would be happy to get compensation for our ancestral home and allow the current residents to conitnue living there, unless they are settlers and are moving back to Turkey or TC refugees mving to their ancestral homes.


You can sell up today, apply to the property commission before the rush.
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Postby DT. » Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:44 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
humanist wrote:many things are ofetn said in gest. am seriously afraid of the hate some members on this forum show on the so called other side.

Personally if we unify my family would be happy to get compensation for our ancestral home and allow the current residents to conitnue living there, unless they are settlers and are moving back to Turkey or TC refugees mving to their ancestral homes.


You can sell up today, apply to the property commission before the rush.


you still waiting for that rush?? Put your feet up, the scams been uncovered.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:46 pm

DT. wrote:
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humanist wrote:many things are ofetn said in gest. am seriously afraid of the hate some members on this forum show on the so called other side.

Personally if we unify my family would be happy to get compensation for our ancestral home and allow the current residents to conitnue living there, unless they are settlers and are moving back to Turkey or TC refugees mving to their ancestral homes.


You can sell up today, apply to the property commission before the rush.


you still waiting for that rush?? Put your feet up, the scams been uncovered.


Details? independent please.
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