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Postby Kifeas » Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:18 pm

Hopes rise for Ottoman-era peace in Cyprus

Mehmet Hasgüler

The year 2008 will be a significant year for the re-shaping of the Cyprus problem, according to Associate Professor Mehmet Hasgüler, an expert on international relations.

Hasgüler says the Greek Cypriot presidential elections scheduled for February might be a turning point for the settlement of the decades-old Cyprus dispute, raising hopes for the re-establishment of the peace the island saw during the Ottoman era.
In an exclusive in interview with Today's Zaman Hasgüler says, "Either an Ottoman peace plan or a final division of the island will be made certain this year." He stresses that the choice of the Greek community in the upcoming presidential elections will determine which path the Greek public will take. According to him, the left-wing Progressive Party of the Working People (AKEL), which has nominated Dimitris Christofias, will boost hopes for the settlement of peace on the island if it can defeat Greek Cypriot President Tassos Papadopoulos in the run-off round.

Hasgüler says that Papadopoulos is losing his popularity among the Greek Cypriots due to his objection to the Annan Plan -- a UN proposal for the settlement of the dispute over the divided island nation of Cyprus through the formation of the United Cyprus Republic. The plan would have allowed Greek Cypriots immigrants to gradually take return to their properties on the north side of the island. Papadopoulos is not likely to be elected in the first round of the presidential vote. Hasgüler says, "Although Papadopoulos, who has been given bad reviews both by the international community and the Greek Cypriots, seems to be in the lead now, the presidential elections will be concluded in the runoffs." In Hasgüler's view, AKEL leader Christofias will receive votes from the opponents of Papadopoulos in the runoff and make it to the presidency, which will pave the way for the launch of efforts for a solution on the divided island. " Except for the radicals, the majority of the Greek Cypriots will not oppose the re-establishment of the Ottoman-era peace that lasted for 307 years on the island," he says.

Hasgüler stresses that it is crucial for Turkey, Greece and both communities on the island to launch efforts for a solution before the international community takes action following the election results. "Papadopoulos has fallen into the situation of [former Turkish Cyprus President Rauf Denktaş]. The international community and the Greek community are seeking ways for a solution. The nationalists, the Church and the Archbishop support Papadopoulos. Yet, if Christofias wins the elections, he will have more space for maneuver," he said.

In the event that Papadopoulos is re-elected, Hasgüler warns that division on the island will increase.

Ottoman era peace

Under the rule of the Ottoman Empire, the Muslims and Christians on the island lived in peace for 307 years, recalls Hasgüler: "It is necessary to restore the Ottoman understanding of peace, tolerance and initiative. The Cyprus dispute can only be settled with such an understanding."

According to Hasgüler, an Ottoman-style peace plan would be more meaningful than other peace plans that have been proposed for the island. "We really need to refresh our memories. … When we start talking about that period of peace, our point will immediately be appreciated. The 307-year Ottoman rule on the island was better than the 87-year British rule. Thus, the Ottoman peace plan is more appropriate than the British peace plan." He voices his hope that, if such a plan is introduced, the Greek Cypriots will appreciate it more than any other peace plans proposed for the island.

http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detay ... ink=131512


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Postby denizaksulu » Sat Jan 12, 2008 11:02 pm

Plenty comedians around. Is this guy for real? :roll: :roll:

Maybe he thought that the 'Ottoman styl :lol: e' would be preferable to a new Tpapa era. :lol: :lol:
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Postby Nikitas » Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:46 am

Reading stuff like this makes me glad I did not go into teaching. If I had this man would be classified as my colleague. Narrow escape huh!
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Postby Salonikios » Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:42 pm

That "Ottoman era good all times" would be kinda funny if it wasn't really tragic.Has this professor heard about the preemptive slaughtering of Cypriot intelligentsia in July 1821 :?: :roll:
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Postby Kikapu » Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:52 pm

I think this "Nutty Professor" Mehmet Hasgüler is trying to help the Greek Cypriots from paying any taxes by wanting them to become Ottoman era style Greek Muslims. :lol: :lol:
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Turkey needs a face-saving formula

Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:00 pm

People should realise that Turkey has invested a lot of political capital in the partition of Cyprus. The man in the street in Turkey has been bombarded with propaganda to convince him that a large Turkish military presence is necessary on the island otherwise the Turkish Cypriots will be murdered in their beds at night. It is no simple matter to backtrack from such a position. This will require some kind of face saving formula. I think if a Turkish University professor is flying a kite for this kind of "Ottoman Solution" which essentially involves abandoning the position of partition, it should be welcomed. Provided this "Ottoman Solution" does not involve a return to anachronisms like a ruling community and a ruled community, and instead simply harks back to an era of ethnic harmony on the island, I don't see the problem. If the Turkish elite is ever to adopt a radically different Cyprus policy, will have to use some kind of nationalistic spin to sell it to the populace given the way that the flames of nationalist fervour have been fanned up in the past over Cyprus.
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Postby Sotos » Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:07 pm

Thus, the Ottoman peace plan is more appropriate than the British peace plan.


What is the British peace plan he is talking about? 1960 or Annan plan? Or both maybe? We had enough of their "peace plans" and "peace operations". What we need is for them to finally piss off.
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Postby DT. » Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:46 pm

The plan would have allowed Greek Cypriots immigrants to gradually take return to their properties on the north side


immigrants? huh??
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Re: Turkey needs a face-saving formula

Postby denizaksulu » Mon Jan 14, 2008 4:58 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:People should realise that Turkey has invested a lot of political capital in the partition of Cyprus. The man in the street in Turkey has been bombarded with propaganda to convince him that a large Turkish military presence is necessary on the island otherwise the Turkish Cypriots will be murdered in their beds at night. It is no simple matter to backtrack from such a position. This will require some kind of face saving formula. I think if a Turkish University professor is flying a kite for this kind of "Ottoman Solution" which essentially involves abandoning the position of partition, it should be welcomed. Provided this "Ottoman Solution" does not involve a return to anachronisms like a ruling community and a ruled community, and instead simply harks back to an era of ethnic harmony on the island, I don't see the problem. If the Turkish elite is ever to adopt a radically different Cyprus policy, will have to use some kind of nationalistic spin to sell it to the populace given the way that the flames of nationalist fervour have been fanned up in the past over Cyprus.



Tim, are we to be mind readers. A bit of explanation would be welcome from the author.
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