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[Sotos]

Cheshire Cat I am talking about the bases you keep and you don't even pay rent for them. We want tourists and all that but we don't really care from where they come from. And we don't mind the nice British people, just the nasty ones. I am sure not even the other British like the nasty ones!

[Sotos]

To Bucksboy:
Who is blaming foreigners for our problems? We are blaming only those foreigns who invade our island and create problems. Or you missed it that your army is still occupying part of our island? Or maybe you want us to blame ourselves because you invade us? And don't tell me you come to Cyprus to help our economy. You come to Cyprus to help yourselves so don't talk as if you are a charity organization!! You can complain as much as you want but if you hate Cyprus so much then why stay here?? Whats the point? And before you say anything about Cypriots living abroad I will tell you that I would say the same thing to them if they hated the country they lived.

Sotos,
You are so right. I have not come to Cyprus to help with their economy...why should I?
As for the occupying Army that bugs you so much you should look back to your history and confirm that the British Bases are an agreed part of Cypriot Independance that was signed at independance.
Sorry to correct you again but i'm not British either!

The British bases are remains of colonialism. We don't want them on our island. And before you said you come here to help our economy now you say the opposite. So what is it? Why don't you tell us why you came and what your problem is exactly?

[dinos]

Dinos, yes we lost a lot of money in Shares, we had to sell them at bad time, once shares are sold they are gone finished, but what really upset me was when we moved from Cyprus to France, for Months I was watching the exchange rates CY£ to the Euro and it was always roughly 2 Euros to £1CY, we gave the bank in Cyprus instructions to send the money, would you believe it that very day the £CY1 Droped against the Euros, as a result
80,000 euros was wiped off our money that we needed to start a new life. The day after the £CY recovered. funny that . At that time the banks told us that Cyprus controlled her own exchange rate she was not affiliated to the European rates. You try losing that much and smiling, not only did your country do this to us but, they also charged us £2,000cy for the priviledge of screwing us.
Bringing money into Cyprus is the worst thing we have ever done, we were told by a lawyer ( Cypriot) that Cyprus will never let you take money out of Cyprus, they will always find a way to stop you.
So, I know the reaction from you all already, I am a lying Brit, right ? The French are all Frogs, the Italians are all Pasta eating Wops, what else . When I am less upset I will be writing a statement on this forum, you can read it if you wish, you will probably call me a F****Ig liar, so what is new !!

Sorry if I hit a sour note - I never intended to belittle your experience or rub salt in an old wound, and I don't blame you for being upset given your experience. However, life has taught me these things:

1. Estate agents are crooked everywhere. They don't care if you live or die - they just want your commission. And to be told that they're fabulous. Cypriot agents are not special in this respect.

2. Any time you bring money into another country, you take on forex risk. How do you think Europeans that invested in American equities feel right about now? The last year or so has seen a good deal of volatility in FX rates and a lot of people have got a right bruising. But I find it rather suspect that a central bank would've intervened to devalue its currency, then revalue it the next day, just so that they could screw you. This type of action involves large Value at Risk, (not to mention significant economic fallout where devaluation is concerned) and revaluing a currency is not easy, so I doubt that the country would have done this to you. A better possibility is that you liquidated CY pounds on a day when an important economic news item was being released, the initial reaction of market traders caused the pound to lose value and the next day when the hysteria died down, traders saw the news item as rather innocuous and the pound rallied back to where it was before. This happens all the time. News are the most frustrating thing to deal with because market reactions can lay waste to the most well-crafted plans so it's best to keep out of the melee until the dust settles. Regardless, I don't know the specifics of what happened to you so I can only offer a potential cause / effect.

3. Learning that people can smile but not be your friend is not a valid lesson here. This is the same in England, Spain, Portugal, Saudi Arabia. If you really want to see a cut-throat environment, try American high society. Regardless of any money issues, I never choose to get involved with those folks and just tell them that I'm a line cook at Applebees if I happened to be around them and they asked.

Everybody takes losses in their life. But why did you indicate the magnitude of your loss? A person of fewer means can lose less and be far more devastated. I don't care how much you lost - only that you lost and what you did about it. The only variable anyone can control in their life is themselves. You take your lump, evaluate the situation to see what happened and how, and then move on after making appropriate adjustments. There's nothing you can do about past losses, but you can make it back. My only intent in asking you the question I asked was to see what adjustments you made that would prevent you from taking the same loss in the future. Avoiding a particular crowd will not help in that respect.

Also, I don't think you're a stupid Brit, nor do I think that you're a liar. And, while the French do, indeed, eat frogs and Italians do, in fact, eat pasta, I have not sought to deride either nationality. Perhaps you can reconsider my question after a little French wine and some Italian olive oil?

<Edit to add: It's not the loss or its size that defines you as a person. It's what you do about it that does.>

[pantheman]

Perhaps, as Pantheman does not like have us Awful Brits in his precious country, he should take out an Advert in one of the national newspapers in the U.K. telling British people who maybe planning to spend their hard earned cash how unwelcome they really are.

That The Cypriots really do not want their money and would they mind staying away, also perhaps he could mention that they are not wanted on the Island at holiday times either.

In fact why not write to your president and give him your views, I am sure his letter would be given careful consideration before it is filed in the nearest rubbish bin !!

Ok, Ok enough.

Lets just get this thread into perspective shall we.

First of all CC, I made no mention of any enthic origin of any person. I responded to 2 individuals who were spreading doom and gloom. Furthermore, as you had been wronged by some cypriots you both saw fit to tarnish a whole nation with this hatred.

Since you have brought up the 'British' it just goes to show the racist attitude that you have, because you have assumed it is a racial thing when I said go home then. Did i mention any countries? No. it is you who has the chip. then some clown by the name of bucksboy comes along and throws his/her oar in. Bucksboy is also a cypriot hater but then you all choose to live in cyprus. I just stated the obvious.

If it is any consolation to you, you are not the only one who has been shafted, I was shafted in the UK by a laywer and the water authority for over 300,000 Euros (or the stg equivilent) for some incident that was no fault of my own. So your 88,000 euros don't come close. I didn't go round spread shit about the british. I was born in britain!

So, lets not make this a racial thing and as for bucksboy, well, if cyprus is no good for you Fuck Off. never mind the cyprob or the history. The cypriots know they were shafted and by whom and they don't need little shits like you to remind them.

Have a nice day

[Cheshire Cat]

Dinos, the reason I mention the amount was because it was important too us , this was to be used to put our house in order litterally !! I was devastated I could not believe it I even made our local bank go through every single transaction and there no No error on thier part. Perhaps it was coincidence that the rates recovered the day after our transaction, as all I ever got from the Bank was, it is the Central Bank that decides the exchange rate, and that was that as far as they were concerned. I can only quote you what was said to me.

When I left Cyprus I really wanted to feel I could go back and see friends, we made many in the local taverna's b ut not now never again.
I would not know about USA or Spain or Portugal I cannot speak about places I have not spent time in, But like everywhere, if you walk away from the Cities and out to the villages you come across a different type of person, a kinder more relaxed person. This is where I was born and brought up.
I cannot make the money back we have lost because we are both retired, our lovely home in the Gers SW France is up for sale in order to try and provide some back up for the future. We will of course stay in this area, we all feel safer here than we have felt in any other place we have lived.

[Piratis]

Cheshire Cat, are you claiming that the Central Bank of Cyprus intentionally dropped the exchange rate for a day so they would get your 80.000 Euro?

[JoJo]

pantheman how am I spreading doom and gloom when I am merely stating reality. It's a forum isn't it.

[Cheshire Cat]

How would I know? I am Just a stupid Racist white anglo saxon Female Just the type of person you love to hate.JoJo and I were not speading doom and gloom it was a simple observation about debt in General and how people get into trouble without realising it.
How do you make out I am racist, I lived in Cyprus, France, I have had Sri Lankan housekeepers working for me, who hated my racist tendancies so much that they broke down and cried when their contracts expired and they had to leave. I have been wronged by more than one ot two Cypriots, I could not give names because I do not want to be sued for Slander and as I have no witnesses or non that would be willing to stick their neck out for a Brit I will say no more about that.
Pantheman, I think it is appaling that you have lost all that money, why do you not seek redress through the British Legal system.
Why do you feel the need to use foul language, leave Bucksboy out of this, you have sworn at Me, I grant you I repeated what you said when you told me to Sod off but I did NOT start the fight.

You mention hatred not me, it was you who started the mud slinging not me,

[Cheshire Cat]

Piratis,
You would know better than I the Love of Money in Cyprus, they only have to do that to a few people in a year and they make a nice little earner.

[Cheshire Cat]

Sotos,

I agree that the British bases should leave Cyprus, maybe then the British government would stand up for the Ex-pats who have been conned right left and centre every day of the year.