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Truths exposed. Hellenic Ruling elite cannot conceal it anym

Postby insan » Sun Mar 27, 2005 2:12 pm

Cyprus attacks UN human rights report
March 27, 2005 - 5:09AM



Cyprus has slammed a United Nations report on human rights, calling the findings "unacceptable" because they neglected to mention the Turkish occupation of the northern part of the island state.

The report by the Office of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights said "the human rights concerns in Cyprus derive predominantly from the persisting division of the island which, without a political settlement, remains unresolved".

But Foreign Minister George Iacovou complained that the report omitted the rulings of the Human Rights Court of the Council of Europe that found Turkey guilty of repeatedly violating the rights of Greek Cypriots who had fled from the occupied north.

"It is unacceptable to link respect for human rights with political considerations and expediencies," Iacovou told reporters.

The report was presented to the annual meeting of the UN Human Rights Commission in Geneva earlier this week.

"The division of Cyprus has consequences for the enjoyment, on the whole island, of a number of human rights, including freedom of movement, freedom of association, property rights, freedom of religion, family rights, freedom of expression, voting rights, the right to education, the right to health, and human rights issues pertaining to the issue of missing persons," the report said.


It does not say that the violations were due to the Turkish occupation.


http://www.theage.com.au/news/Breaking- ... click=true

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Everything you gained with arts and wiles of politics will be lost on eby one. The naked truths will be exposed. It's time to change the glasses you wear. Otherwise prapare yourself for the partition.
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Postby Piratis » Sun Mar 27, 2005 3:06 pm

The division of Cyprus has consequences for the enjoyment, on the whole island, of a number of human rights, including freedom of movement, freedom of association, property rights, freedom of religion, family rights, freedom of expression, voting rights, the right to education, the right to health, and human rights issues pertaining to the issue of missing persons


Therefore the conlusion here is that the divison has to stop.

Everything you gained with arts and wiles of politics will be lost on eby one.


Don't keep your breath. What will be lost first is EU for Turkey, and Cyprus will be re-united sooner or later either you like it or not.
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Postby insan » Sun Mar 27, 2005 3:50 pm

Therefore the conlusion here is that the divison has to stop.



The division of Cyprus would have ended if your leadeship genuinely negotiated the solution instead of dreaming "European solution". the final outcome of Annan Plan has been approved by both EU and UN. Keep your so-called legal arguments and interpretations yourself. Some reciprocal changes within the boundaries and basic parameters of final outcome are welcomed. forget the rest.


Don't keep your breath. What will be lost first is EU for Turkey, and Cyprus will be re-united sooner or later either you like it or not.



As we all know. The so-called RoC has become an EU member as a consequence of Greece's blackmails. EU, Turkey, US and the rest of the world is well aware of the Hellenic plot. I'm sure in the end, you'll shoot yourself with your own gun.
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Postby magikthrill » Sun Mar 27, 2005 7:55 pm

insan wrote:the final outcome of Annan Plan has been approved by both EU and UN.


Then why isn't it in effect?????

As we all know. The so-called RoC has become an EU member as a consequence of Greece's blackmails. EU, Turkey, US and the rest of the world is well aware of the Hellenic plot. I'm sure in the end, you'll shoot yourself with your own gun.


hahhahahhahaha. Yes the VERY POWERFUL Hellenic Republic has managed to push its agenda past the weak EU, Turkey and US. You are a true comedian insan.

But on a more serious note, I am starting to find many people's paranoia on this forum quite disturbing.
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Postby insan » Sun Mar 27, 2005 8:05 pm

magikthrill wrote:
insan wrote:the final outcome of Annan Plan has been approved by both EU and UN.


Then why isn't it in effect?????


You know it better than me.

As we all know. The so-called RoC has become an EU member as a consequence of Greece's blackmails. EU, Turkey, US and the rest of the world is well aware of the Hellenic plot. I'm sure in the end, you'll shoot yourself with your own gun.


hahhahahhahaha. Yes the VERY POWERFUL Hellenic Republic has managed to push its agenda past the weak EU, Turkey and US. You are a true comedian insan.


Hahahahahaha! All Hellenic descendants know and accept the fact that Greece blackmailed EU to accept the membership of "RoC" other than you.


But on a more serious note, I am starting to find many people's paranoia on this forum quite disturbing.


First be aware of the goings on and then come and speak about paranoia. If you don't ashame you will claim that the colour of milk is black. :lol:
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Mar 27, 2005 8:08 pm

Piratis
Cyprus will be re-united sooner or later either you like it or not.


Have you changed your stance, thought you were in favour of recognized partition for land deal?? whats happened to a hardliner like you, thought we agreed a 18% - 82% split????
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Postby insan » Sun Mar 27, 2005 8:17 pm

Cyprus: Showdown at the Last Chance Saloon
By Gwynne Dyer



The real question mark hangs over the Greek-Cypriots, because they really don't have a strong incentive to say "yes". Thanks to the fact that their "mother country", Greece, is already in the EU while Turkey is not, they are guaranteed membership of the EU regardless of how they vote in the referendum. (Greece threatened to veto the whole process of EU expansion if Cyprus did not gain unconditional entry.) So if they vote "no" to the deal and the Turkish-Cypriots vote "yes", they become EU citizens anyway, while the Turkish-Cypriots are left out in the cold.




http://www.theindependent.co.zw/news/20 ... /2485.html
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Postby magikthrill » Sun Mar 27, 2005 8:18 pm

insan wrote:Hahahahahaha! All Hellenic descendants know and accept the fact that Greece blackmailed EU to accept the membership of "RoC" other than you.


I was completely unaware of this. I mean I would like to think that we are powerful enough to blackmail three powerful entities but somehow I don't see that possible.


First be aware of the goings on and then come and speak about paranoia. If you don't ashame you will claim that the colour of milk is black. :lol:


Right back at ya.
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Postby insan » Sun Mar 27, 2005 8:44 pm

Cyprus: the case for federation


The Economist, Nov 29th 2001

And the case for resisting blackmail

FOUR main choices face the Cypriots on their divided island. Either the Greeks and Turks who live on it agree to rub along together in a very loosely federal state. Or they agree to separate formally, with fairer boundaries. Or the present edgy stalemate goes on, with both sides growling at each other across barbed wire. Or the island's internationally recognised Greek part is inducted as soon as possible into the European Union, with the Turkish bit set aside until its leaders choose to come back to negotiate. All these choices have drawbacks. But the first—loose federation—is still the least bad. With the island's long-serving Turkish and Greek leaders about to meet for the first time in four years, this is not the moment for outsiders to give up trying to cut a deal.


Why are three of those choices less satisfactory than the first? The present stalemate cannot hold. The poker game over the EU's enlargement—involving Greece's wish to get its island cousins into the club and Turkey's desire to join it some time too—have destroyed the unstable equilibrium of the past quarter century. Many Greeks, and several EU governments, want the internationally recognised Greek-controlled bit of the island brought into the Union, whatever the Turks and others may think. Otherwise, says the government in Athens, it will block the entry into the EU club of ten other countries, an incomparably more important event. If Greece has its way, Turkey, a valued but prickly NATO country, says it may annex Turkish Cyprus outright, imperilling the entire region.


So why not recognise partition—and two separate states on the island—rather than seek to persuade two peoples who plainly dislike each other to live cheek by jowl? The notion is by no means ridiculous. The Turks, who made up 18% of the island's population when their mainland cousins intervened in 1974 after a short-lived local coup threatened to attach Cyprus to Greece, now have 37% of the land. The Greeks would rightly deem a settlement that froze that status quo to be grossly unfair and a shocking endorsement of ethnic cleansing besides. But if both sides agreed to a new share-out, if compensation were internationally adjudged and if boundaries were redrawn to both sides' satisfaction, why not then let them live happily on their own? Fine, in principle. But it would be much harder to get that sort of agreement than the elusive, long-mooted, loosely federal one.




http://www.petrjahoda.cz/Download/Cyprus.doc

Abuse of the veto power not the power of Greece, actually.
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Postby magikthrill » Sun Mar 27, 2005 8:51 pm

i never asked for sources. im sure they existed. i asked do you find the scanrio of Greece's scenario plausible? If Greece has been so powerful then why is Cyprus not a part of Greece???
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