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[boomerang]

Any new soln must be based on to seperate federal states
and at the same time have reservations in TC interest

You and effendi halil must be excellent friends...

[DT.]

boomerang

I'm not saying that 74 is not important. Turkey had been planing to lauch an offensive since 1964, but the American President apposed this very strongly and stopped İsmet İnönü from going further. When you look at the time period GC's had to do things right and go back to the old constitution, they had 10 years, but everything got worse, the true ROC only lived for three years. When Turkey came to a point were it had to intervene it did but neither Turkey or TC's had the intention of going back to the 60 settlement case, from 74 onwards TC's wanted to live on a land with a majority TC population, but GC's did not want a new settlement, at that point Turkey commensed the second phase. Yes you may argue that they ethnicnally cleansed you from your lands but it was something you had coming. All refugees moving back is a dream its not gonna happen.

The GC's never own up to doing anything wrong but 200,000 people kicked out of their homes can simply be labelled as "they had it coming". Bravo! You are the most consistent one in here.

P.S how long have you been living in Morphou?

[halil]

Britain advises Turkey to open a port to Greek Cyprus
'A window of opportunities would be opened,' says Ryan, Britain's envoy for Cyprus, adding that a new diplomatic campaign will be launched to solve the problem
The advice came from Joan Ryan, the British prime minister's special envoy for Cyprus, during her talks with Turkish Foreign Ministry officials and members of the Foreign Affairs Committee of Parliament.
“A window of opportunities would be opened,” Ryan told the parliamentarians, implying that “the Annan Plan could still be used” in solving the decades long Cyprus problem. She also said the international community will likely back a new diplomatic initiative under the auspices of the United Nations after the elections in Greek Cyprus.
During her talks in Parliament, Turkish lawmakers summarized for her not only the political dimension but also the psychological situation in the northern part of the island.
“The humanitarian side is getting more tragic everyday as a political solution is delayed. Turkish Cypriots have the impression that more difficult days await them as the embargos continue,”

[phoenix]

Britain's special envoy for Cyprus in Ankara for talks.
British Prime Minister's special envoy for Cyprus Joan Ryan had talks with the Foreign Ministry officials and members of Parliament's foreign Affairs Committee on Wednesday. Ryan had the pulse of Ankara ahead of a new possible initiative for the solution to the Cyprus problem after the elections in Greek Cyprus, the diplomats said. Ryan, a member of the ruling Labor Party, was accompanied by Simon Horner, a high level British diplomat.

I guess she went to give your guys a blow job after all. Seems every one else believes turkey is charge after all.

Poor TCs who think they are running their own show, and don't realise that soon mummy is gonna spank them silly.

Seems the TRNC is really Turkeys Republic of Northern Cyprus

This is not the case but even if it was Turkeys Republic of Northern Cyprus at least we are not at risk of another genocide.

The only risk of genocide to TCs by GCs, was in their minds.

When working out risks and probabilities you first need some data of at least just one such event. Otherwise the probability remains at zero.

When looking at the number of Genocides committed by Turkey though, then its neighbours have a very high risk of meeting their end at the hands of Turks.

If we were to be mature and realistic about the whole thing then you and I both know there will not be any genocide carried out on anybody. We are just bitching, its something us Cypriots are good at

Yes to be realistic, I do know there is no chance the GCs would ever commit genocide on any group of people, based on the sound basis they they have never acted in this way. They have only ever been in the unfortunate position of having to defend themselves from invaders.

The Cypriots have never invaded another country. So how could they commit genocide? They have only had to defend themselves in their own country.

On the other hand, what the Turk-TCs are good at, is muddying the waters and tarnishing others with their dirt. That is why you say "we are good at bitching" . . . . you are trying to make out that we are just gossiping about possible events.

Well that is utter tosh, we do not share such similarities with the Turk-TCs we have never committed genocide . . . . only the Turks. And it's not just gossip ........ it is a well known fact and accepted by the whole World that the Turks have a history of genocides.

Do not equate the GCs with the Turk-TCs when you describe your murderous past. We have nothing in common in that respect.

[zan]

boomerang

I'm not saying that 74 is not important. Turkey had been planing to lauch an offensive since 1964, but the American President apposed this very strongly and stopped İsmet İnönü from going further. When you look at the time period GC's had to do things right and go back to the old constitution, they had 10 years, but everything got worse, the true ROC only lived for three years. When Turkey came to a point were it had to intervene it did but neither Turkey or TC's had the intention of going back to the 60 settlement case, from 74 onwards TC's wanted to live on a land with a majority TC population, but GC's did not want a new settlement, at that point Turkey commensed the second phase. Yes you may argue that they ethnicnally cleansed you from your lands but it was something you had coming. All refugees moving back is a dream its not gonna happen.

The GC's never own up to doing anything wrong but 200,000 people kicked out of their homes can simply be labelled as "they had it coming". Bravo! You are the most consistent one in here.

P.S how long have you been living in Morphou?

The last argument you have is the refugee situation and because of that you still use the propaganda figure of 200,000....How low can you go

[phoenix]

Phoneix

Here are some data for you,


http://www.handsacrossthedivide.org/index.php?section=newdetails&INC_ID=185

http://web.deu.edu.tr/kibris/history/6474.html

http://www.geocities.com/t_volunteer/cyprus/issue.htm

http://www.geocities.com/t_volunteer/cyprus/issue.htm

http://www.kibris.net/basin/yazarlarimiz/serbest/s_m_ersoy/arsiv/10_agustos_2004.htm

umit07 .... you have proved you do not know what term data is.

Continue your gossiping and propaganda with the other men in the kafenia, halil, and MR-from-NG.

[denizaksulu]

Britain's special envoy for Cyprus in Ankara for talks.
British Prime Minister's special envoy for Cyprus Joan Ryan had talks with the Foreign Ministry officials and members of Parliament's foreign Affairs Committee on Wednesday. Ryan had the pulse of Ankara ahead of a new possible initiative for the solution to the Cyprus problem after the elections in Greek Cyprus, the diplomats said. Ryan, a member of the ruling Labor Party, was accompanied by Simon Horner, a high level British diplomat.

I guess she went to give your guys a blow job after all. Seems every one else believes turkey is charge after all.

Poor TCs who think they are running their own show, and don't realise that soon mummy is gonna spank them silly.

Seems the TRNC is really Turkeys Republic of Northern Cyprus

This is not the case but even if it was Turkeys Republic of Northern Cyprus at least we are not at risk of another genocide.

The only risk of genocide to TCs by GCs, was in their minds.

When working out risks and probabilities you first need some data of at least just one such event. Otherwise the probability remains at zero.

When looking at the number of Genocides committed by Turkey though, then its neighbours have a very high risk of meeting their end at the hands of Turks.

If we were to be mature and realistic about the whole thing then you and I both know there will not be any genocide carried out on anybody. We are just bitching, its something us Cypriots are good at

Yes to be realistic, I do know there is no chance the GCs would ever commit genocide on any group of people, based on the sound basis they they have never acted in this way. They have only ever been in the unfortunate position of having to defend themselves from invaders.

The Cypriots have never invaded another country. So how could they commit genocide? They have only had to defend themselves in their own country.

On the other hand, what the Turk-TCs are good at, is muddying the waters and tarnishing others with their dirt. That is why you say "we are good at bitching" . . . . you are trying to make out that we are just gossiping about possible events.

Well that is utter tosh, we do not share such similarities with the Turk-TCs we have never committed genocide . . . . only the Turks. And it's not just gossip ........ it is a well known fact and accepted by the whole World that the Turks have a history of genocides.

Do not equate the GCs with the Turk-TCs when you describe your murderous past. We have nothing in common in that respect.

Madam Fonaklas, you are unbelieveable. The Data you required for your scientific analysis of the Massacres' commited against the TCs goes unread and you still make these stupis statements. Enough is enough madame Fonaklas. From now on YOU will get what YOU desrve. Go to hell.

[DT.]

boomerang

I'm not saying that 74 is not important. Turkey had been planing to lauch an offensive since 1964, but the American President apposed this very strongly and stopped İsmet İnönü from going further. When you look at the time period GC's had to do things right and go back to the old constitution, they had 10 years, but everything got worse, the true ROC only lived for three years. When Turkey came to a point were it had to intervene it did but neither Turkey or TC's had the intention of going back to the 60 settlement case, from 74 onwards TC's wanted to live on a land with a majority TC population, but GC's did not want a new settlement, at that point Turkey commensed the second phase. Yes you may argue that they ethnicnally cleansed you from your lands but it was something you had coming. All refugees moving back is a dream its not gonna happen.

The GC's never own up to doing anything wrong but 200,000 people kicked out of their homes can simply be labelled as "they had it coming". Bravo! You are the most consistent one in here.

P.S how long have you been living in Morphou?

The last argument you have is the refugee situation and because of that you still use the propaganda figure of 200,000....How low can you go

sorry Zan, which number would you like me to use?

[zan]

Britain's special envoy for Cyprus in Ankara for talks.
British Prime Minister's special envoy for Cyprus Joan Ryan had talks with the Foreign Ministry officials and members of Parliament's foreign Affairs Committee on Wednesday. Ryan had the pulse of Ankara ahead of a new possible initiative for the solution to the Cyprus problem after the elections in Greek Cyprus, the diplomats said. Ryan, a member of the ruling Labor Party, was accompanied by Simon Horner, a high level British diplomat.

I guess she went to give your guys a blow job after all. Seems every one else believes turkey is charge after all.

Poor TCs who think they are running their own show, and don't realise that soon mummy is gonna spank them silly.

Seems the TRNC is really Turkeys Republic of Northern Cyprus

This is not the case but even if it was Turkeys Republic of Northern Cyprus at least we are not at risk of another genocide.

The only risk of genocide to TCs by GCs, was in their minds.

When working out risks and probabilities you first need some data of at least just one such event. Otherwise the probability remains at zero.

When looking at the number of Genocides committed by Turkey though, then its neighbours have a very high risk of meeting their end at the hands of Turks.

If we were to be mature and realistic about the whole thing then you and I both know there will not be any genocide carried out on anybody. We are just bitching, its something us Cypriots are good at

Yes to be realistic, I do know there is no chance the GCs would ever commit genocide on any group of people, based on the sound basis they they have never acted in this way. They have only ever been in the unfortunate position of having to defend themselves from invaders.

The Cypriots have never invaded another country. So how could they commit genocide? They have only had to defend themselves in their own country.

On the other hand, what the Turk-TCs are good at, is muddying the waters and tarnishing others with their dirt. That is why you say "we are good at bitching" . . . . you are trying to make out that we are just gossiping about possible events.

Well that is utter tosh, we do not share such similarities with the Turk-TCs we have never committed genocide . . . . only the Turks. And it's not just gossip ........ it is a well known fact and accepted by the whole World that the Turks have a history of genocides.

Do not equate the GCs with the Turk-TCs when you describe your murderous past. We have nothing in common in that respect.

Madam Fonaklas, you are unbelieveable. The Data you required for your scientific analysis of the Massacres' commited against the TCs goes unread and you still make these stupis statements. Enough is enough madame Fonaklas. From now on YOU will get what YOU desrve. Go to hell.

You know....I am always always much more offended by these lies that come from the women than I am from the men. Phoenix and that even more obvious racist Rafella or what ever her name is. Did they spare no one in their teachings of propaganda and hate And we sat around for decades keeping their homes for them. The biggest mistake they have ever made is to take the kindness and good will of the Turkish Cypriot people and see it as a weakness instead of the tower of strength it is.

[denizaksulu]

Britain's special envoy for Cyprus in Ankara for talks.
British Prime Minister's special envoy for Cyprus Joan Ryan had talks with the Foreign Ministry officials and members of Parliament's foreign Affairs Committee on Wednesday. Ryan had the pulse of Ankara ahead of a new possible initiative for the solution to the Cyprus problem after the elections in Greek Cyprus, the diplomats said. Ryan, a member of the ruling Labor Party, was accompanied by Simon Horner, a high level British diplomat.

I guess she went to give your guys a blow job after all. Seems every one else believes turkey is charge after all.

Poor TCs who think they are running their own show, and don't realise that soon mummy is gonna spank them silly.

Seems the TRNC is really Turkeys Republic of Northern Cyprus

This is not the case but even if it was Turkeys Republic of Northern Cyprus at least we are not at risk of another genocide.

The only risk of genocide to TCs by GCs, was in their minds.

When working out risks and probabilities you first need some data of at least just one such event. Otherwise the probability remains at zero.

When looking at the number of Genocides committed by Turkey though, then its neighbours have a very high risk of meeting their end at the hands of Turks.

If we were to be mature and realistic about the whole thing then you and I both know there will not be any genocide carried out on anybody. We are just bitching, its something us Cypriots are good at

Yes to be realistic, I do know there is no chance the GCs would ever commit genocide on any group of people, based on the sound basis they they have never acted in this way. They have only ever been in the unfortunate position of having to defend themselves from invaders.

The Cypriots have never invaded another country. So how could they commit genocide? They have only had to defend themselves in their own country.

On the other hand, what the Turk-TCs are good at, is muddying the waters and tarnishing others with their dirt. That is why you say "we are good at bitching" . . . . you are trying to make out that we are just gossiping about possible events.

Well that is utter tosh, we do not share such similarities with the Turk-TCs we have never committed genocide . . . . only the Turks. And it's not just gossip ........ it is a well known fact and accepted by the whole World that the Turks have a history of genocides.

Do not equate the GCs with the Turk-TCs when you describe your murderous past. We have nothing in common in that respect.

Madam Fonaklas, you are unbelieveable. The Data you required for your scientific analysis of the Massacres' commited against the TCs goes unread and you still make these stupis statements. Enough is enough madame Fonaklas. From now on YOU will get what YOU desrve. Go to hell.

You know....I am always always much more offended by these lies that come from the women than I am from the men. Phoenix and that even more obvious racist Rafella or what ever her name is. Did they spare no one in their teachings of propaganda and hate And we sat around for decades keeping their homes for them. The biggest mistake they have ever made is to take the kindness and good will of the Turkish Cypriot people and see it as a weakness instead of the tower of strength it is.

Dont you think that GR is hiding behind Rafaella's skirts.