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[halil]

Phoneix

Here are some data for you,


http://www.handsacrossthedivide.org/index.php?section=newdetails&INC_ID=185

http://web.deu.edu.tr/kibris/history/6474.html

http://www.geocities.com/t_volunteer/cyprus/issue.htm

http://www.geocities.com/t_volunteer/cyprus/issue.htm

http://www.kibris.net/basin/yazarlarimiz/serbest/s_m_ersoy/arsiv/10_agustos_2004.htm

Umit,
now you will be on black list as well , like me

when u are trying to show them other side of the coin they hates you .

why we are showing this unforgetables are may be they can come to their senses and stop saying all the time that they suffered only and they can come to table and solve the Cyprus problem together.

[DT.]

Britain's special envoy for Cyprus in Ankara for talks.
British Prime Minister's special envoy for Cyprus Joan Ryan had talks with the Foreign Ministry officials and members of Parliament's foreign Affairs Committee on Wednesday. Ryan had the pulse of Ankara ahead of a new possible initiative for the solution to the Cyprus problem after the elections in Greek Cyprus, the diplomats said. Ryan, a member of the ruling Labor Party, was accompanied by Simon Horner, a high level British diplomat.

I guess she went to give your guys a blow job after all. Seems every one else believes turkey is charge after all.

Poor TCs who think they are running their own show, and don't realise that soon mummy is gonna spank them silly.

Seems the TRNC is really Turkeys Republic of Northern Cyprus

This is not the case but even if it was Turkeys Republic of Northern Cyprus at least we are not at risk of another genocide.

The only risk of genocide to TCs by GCs, was in their minds.

When working out risks and probabilities you first need some data of at least just one such event. Otherwise the probability remains at zero.

When looking at the number of Genocides committed by Turkey though, then its neighbours have a very high risk of meeting their end at the hands of Turks.

If we were to be mature and realistic about the whole thing then you and I both know there will not be any genocide carried out on anybody. We are just bitching, its something us Cypriots are good at

true

[umit07]

Halil

I really don't get it they never ever own up to anything it's as if the 74 events came out of the blue. If the generation how lived through the 60's thinks this way, the young generation must think they are the "virgin mary".

From a GC perspective they don't like the word isolation,( isolation sounds to inhuman) to them it's about everything being illegal and not having control over it. Thats why they make statements like come over and export from the legal ports of Cyprus.

[boomerang]

Halil

I really don't get it they never ever own up to anything it's as if the 74 events came out of the blue. If the generation how lived through the 60's thinks this way, the young generation must think they are the "virgin mary".

From a GC perspective they don't like the word isolation,( isolation sounds to inhuman) to them it's about everything being illegal and not having control over it. Thats why they make statements like come over and export from the legal ports of Cyprus.

The reason 1974 is important is because turkey as a guarantor power should have, re instated the constitution as per 1960 agreement and not to ethnically cleanse the inhabitants of the land...And then through extortion with a second invasion followed with more evictions....leading to blackmail, thievery via colonozation, extortion, and ransom...

Ask your self why we had guarantors in the fisrt place...then you might see why 1974 should be and is crucial to everyone...It was the start of massive ethnic cleansing, extortion, colonization and murder....

[umit07]

My view also halil, neıther I or any other TC want to use this material as a source of hatred against them, only for them have a little sympathy for the stuff that happened to us, but they look at the problem like it's buisness it's not in their "National Interest" to be guilty of anything.

[denizaksulu]

Britain's special envoy for Cyprus in Ankara for talks.
British Prime Minister's special envoy for Cyprus Joan Ryan had talks with the Foreign Ministry officials and members of Parliament's foreign Affairs Committee on Wednesday. Ryan had the pulse of Ankara ahead of a new possible initiative for the solution to the Cyprus problem after the elections in Greek Cyprus, the diplomats said. Ryan, a member of the ruling Labor Party, was accompanied by Simon Horner, a high level British diplomat.

I guess she went to give your guys a blow job after all. Seems every one else believes turkey is charge after all.

Poor TCs who think they are running their own show, and don't realise that soon mummy is gonna spank them silly.

Seems the TRNC is really Turkeys Republic of Northern Cyprus

This is not the case but even if it was Turkeys Republic of Northern Cyprus at least we are not at risk of another genocide.

The only risk of genocide to TCs by GCs, was in their minds.

When working out risks and probabilities you first need some data of at least just one such event. Otherwise the probability remains at zero.

When looking at the number of Genocides committed by Turkey though, then its neighbours have a very high risk of meeting their end at the hands of Turks.

Bravo re Pheonix, you took the words from my mouth, but you always say it much better. Bravo and its true, notice the back peddle on this one, i think you got them liked here.

Hurrah!!! The Greeks like us now. Thats a fate worse than death.

[umit07]

boomerang

I'm not saying that 74 is not important. Turkey had been planing to lauch an offensive since 1964, but the American President apposed this very strongly and stopped İsmet İnönü from going further. When you look at the time period GC's had to do things right and go back to the old constitution, they had 10 years, but everything got worse, the true ROC only lived for three years. When Turkey came to a point were it had to intervene it did but neither Turkey or TC's had the intention of going back to the 60 settlement case, from 74 onwards TC's wanted to live on a land with a majority TC population, but GC's did not want a new settlement, at that point Turkey commensed the second phase. Yes you may argue that they ethnicnally cleansed you from your lands but it was something you had coming. All refugees moving back is a dream its not gonna happen.

[umit07]

Any new soln must be based on to seperate federal states
and at the same time have reservations in TC interest

[DT.]

Any new soln must be based on to seperate federal states
and at the same time have reservations in TC interest

would you like sieftalia with that or just souvlakia?

[boomerang]

boomerang

I'm not saying that 74 is not important. Turkey had been planing to lauch an offensive since 1964, but the American President apposed this very strongly and stopped İsmet İnönü from going further. When you look at the time period GC's had to do things right and go back to the old constitution, they had 10 years, but everything got worse, the true ROC only lived for three years. When Turkey came to a point were it had to intervene it did but neither Turkey or TC's had the intention of going back to the 60 settlement case, from 74 onwards TC's wanted to live on a land with a majority TC population, but GC's did not want a new settlement, at that point Turkey commensed the second phase. Yes you may argue that they ethnicnally cleansed you from your lands but it was something you had coming. All refugees moving back is a dream its not gonna happen.

Thank you for taking the time to tell me why we had guarantor powers and as to why we had it coming....And what part of yours you want me to understand?