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[halil]

The Presidential spokesperson Hasan Ercakica has said that the Turkish Cypriot Side will continue to work towards finding a solution to the Cyprus Problem, based on the political equality of the two peoples and the existence of two founding states which would be of equal status.

The spokesperson said that all aspects of the Cyprus issue was discussed during last week’s visit to Ankara by President Mehmet Ali Talat.

He said the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus and Ankara are in full agreement over the future policies to be pursued over the Cyprus issue.

Speaking to reporters this morning, the Presidential spokesperson reminded that the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus and Turkey were in full agreement over the Cyprus issue, and that President Talat’s latest visit to Ankara refreshed the Turkish Cypriot people’s confidence in Turkey.

He stressed that the Turkish Side will continue to work towards establishing a new partnership state based on the political equality of the two sides and the existence of two founding states which would be of equal status.

Pointing out that the Greek Cypriot Side was disappointed with the Turkish Cypriot Side’s expressed readiness to work for a new partnership in Cyprus, Mr Ercakica complained that the Greek Cypriot Administration has been working on ways of maintaining the current status quo by making up excuses.

Touching upon Turkish President Abdullah Gul’s visit to the United States, he said the visit was an important opportunity to reiterate the Turkish Side’s desire towards finding a comprehensive solution to the Cyprus Problem.
GUL MEETS WITH BUSH IN WASHINGTON
The Cyprus issue is expected to be one of the main topics of the discussions the Turkish President is to have in New York and Washington.

Mr Gül is expected to urge the UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon to launch a new initiative on the Cyprus issue.
Turkish President will move on to New York where he will meet the UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon.

During his meeting with the UN Chief, Mr Gül will urge Mr Ban to launch a new initiative on the Cyprus issue soon after the Presidential elections in South Cyprus.
The Turkish President will also reiterate the Turkish Side’s readiness to work towards bringing about a lasting solution to the Cyprus problem.
Turkey’s candidacy as a non-permanent member to the UN Security Council will be another important topic of the meeting.

[Kikapu]

The Presidential spokesperson Hasan Ercakica has said that the Turkish Cypriot Side will continue to work towards finding a solution to the Cyprus Problem, based on the political equality of the two peoples and the existence of two founding states which would be of equal status.

The spokesperson said that all aspects of the Cyprus issue was discussed during last week’s visit to Ankara by President Mehmet Ali Talat.

He said the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus and Ankara are in full agreement over the future policies to be pursued over the Cyprus issue.

Speaking to reporters this morning, the Presidential spokesperson reminded that the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus and Turkey were in full agreement over the Cyprus issue, and that President Talat’s latest visit to Ankara refreshed the Turkish Cypriot people’s confidence in Turkey.

He stressed that the Turkish Side will continue to work towards establishing a new partnership state based on the political equality of the two sides and the existence of two founding states which would be of equal status.

Pointing out that the Greek Cypriot Side was disappointed with the Turkish Cypriot Side’s expressed readiness to work for a new partnership in Cyprus, Mr Ercakica complained that the Greek Cypriot Administration has been working on ways of maintaining the current status quo by making up excuses.

Touching upon Turkish President Abdullah Gul’s visit to the United States, he said the visit was an important opportunity to reiterate the Turkish Side’s desire towards finding a comprehensive solution to the Cyprus Problem.
GUL MEETS WITH BUSH IN WASHINGTON
The Cyprus issue is expected to be one of the main topics of the discussions the Turkish President is to have in New York and Washington.

Mr Gül is expected to urge the UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon to launch a new initiative on the Cyprus issue.
Turkish President will move on to New York where he will meet the UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon.

During his meeting with the UN Chief, Mr Gül will urge Mr Ban to launch a new initiative on the Cyprus issue soon after the Presidential elections in South Cyprus.
The Turkish President will also reiterate the Turkish Side’s readiness to work towards bringing about a lasting solution to the Cyprus problem.
Turkey’s candidacy as a non-permanent member to the UN Security Council will be another important topic of the meeting.

Halil,

Isn't Hasan Ercakica just repeating word for word what Turkish President Abdullah Gul said when he visited the "TRNC" few months ago when he said "a solution to the Cyprus Problem will be based on the political equality of the two peoples and the existence of two founding states which would be of equal status". So who is telling who what to do what, in the "TRNC". Perhaps you can see why the GC's do not take Talat too seriously regarding negotiating any kind of a settlement with the TC's when Ankara is calling the shots on what goes on in the "TRNC".

After I wrote the above, I just came across this article:

4. BKP member Korkmazhan declares that in the case of the Cyprus problem the work has started for partition
According to Turkish Cypriot Kibris newspaper (08.01.08 ), the member of the Executive Committee of the United Cyprus Party (BKP) Abdullah Korkmazhan has declared that work towards reaching a federal solution in the Cyprus problem was abandoned and that work has started for partition (taksim) which is based on secessionism.

In his statement Mr. Abdullah Korkmazhan said that Mr. Talat and the so-called the CTP-ORP government, under Turkey’s pressure have abandoned the solution based on common federal state which was going to safeguard Cyprus’ unity and adopted the policy imposed by Turkey based on two separate states , two separate peoples, two separate democracies and two separate republics. He said that in this way the Turkish Cypriots’ expressed will for a federal solution is being trampled upon. Mr. Abdullah Korkmazhan also said that they refuse to accept the two-state based solution which is another name for (taksim) partition.
(MHY)

http://www.moi.gov.cy/moi/pio/pio.nsf/A ... enDocument

[zan]

And Tpap is the man in Europe that is performing magic and is well loved....

[Nikitas]

Two states, so where is the BBF everyone was touting all these years? A federal state is ONE state, with one legal personality and one sovereignty.

This two state deal, read in conjunction with Gul's past statements for ending GC sovereignty sounds more like partition. So why not call it that from the outset and leave the nonsense aside!

THe more said about this the more it looks like another impasse is in the offing. Turkey is good at pretending that it is not interested in the legal details, yet it is just as good as using those details to its own ends. Inorder to start the federation on the basis of two states the RoC would have to be dissolved, which would rob it of the legal advantages of continuity as a nation. Whoever agrees to this is a traitor to ALL Cypriots. TCs benefit from the continuity of the legal personality of Cyprus as much if not more than GCs.

[zan]

Two states, so where is the BBF everyone was touting all these years? A federal state is ONE state, with one legal personality and one sovereignty.

This two state deal, read in conjunction with Gul's past statements for ending GC sovereignty sounds more like partition. So why not call it that from the outset and leave the nonsense aside!

THe more said about this the more it looks like another impasse is in the offing. Turkey is good at pretending that it is not interested in the legal details, yet it is just as good as using those details to its own ends. Inorder to start the federation on the basis of two states the RoC would have to be dissolved, which would rob it of the legal advantages of continuity as a nation. Whoever agrees to this is a traitor to ALL Cypriots. TCs benefit from the continuity of the legal personality of Cyprus as much if not more than GCs.

If Tpap wins then that will seal partition if not then another go at the Annan Plan.

[Sotos]

Two states, two peoples solutions (aka partition) you can shove them up your ass.

If Tpap wins then that will seal partition if not then another go at the Annan Plan.

Keep dreaming old man. You will die in the UK still waiting for that to happen.

[zan]

Two states, two peoples solutions (aka partition) you can shove them up your ass.

If Tpap wins then that will seal partition if not then another go at the Annan Plan.

Keep dreaming old man. You will die in the UK still waiting for that to happen.

Then you will die waiting for your dream as well Sotos....Or do you plan to live for ever..........

[Kikapu]

Two states, so where is the BBF everyone was touting all these years? A federal state is ONE state, with one legal personality and one sovereignty.

This two state deal, read in conjunction with Gul's past statements for ending GC sovereignty sounds more like partition. So why not call it that from the outset and leave the nonsense aside!

THe more said about this the more it looks like another impasse is in the offing. Turkey is good at pretending that it is not interested in the legal details, yet it is just as good as using those details to its own ends. Inorder to start the federation on the basis of two states the RoC would have to be dissolved, which would rob it of the legal advantages of continuity as a nation. Whoever agrees to this is a traitor to ALL Cypriots. TCs benefit from the continuity of the legal personality of Cyprus as much if not more than GCs.

If Tpap wins then that will seal partition if not then another go at the Annan Plan.

Zan,

A "clean Partition" will never happen. That would be the "death nail" to Turkey's and the "TRNC's" EU ambitions in the future. I don't think Turkey is in the business of committing a "political suicide" by having the "TRNC" getting a "clean" partition. That's why the AP was created to take it's place. the GC's saw it and said OXI, OXI, OXI. As Nikitas said very clearly, what Turkey wants it's the dissolvement of the RoC through any Annan Plan type of BBF. If Turkey and the TC's are serious about a True Federation, than the GC's might just go for it over a Unity Government, but I can assure you, the GC's would rather give the TC's and Turkey the 18% of land and say goodbye to us forever, than get stuck with a BBF Turkey style. No way that TURKEY is ever going to take off the ground Zan no matter what language or threats anyone wants to use to solve the Cyprus Problem.

[Sotos]

Two states, two peoples solutions (aka partition) you can shove them up your ass.

If Tpap wins then that will seal partition if not then another go at the Annan Plan.

Keep dreaming old man. You will die in the UK still waiting for that to happen.

Then you will die waiting for your dream as well Sotos....Or do you plan to live for ever..........

I will not live forever but Cyprus will. Look at the history. Many invadors nobody took our land permanently. Your "trnc" has an expiration date.

[zan]

Two states, so where is the BBF everyone was touting all these years? A federal state is ONE state, with one legal personality and one sovereignty.

This two state deal, read in conjunction with Gul's past statements for ending GC sovereignty sounds more like partition. So why not call it that from the outset and leave the nonsense aside!

THe more said about this the more it looks like another impasse is in the offing. Turkey is good at pretending that it is not interested in the legal details, yet it is just as good as using those details to its own ends. Inorder to start the federation on the basis of two states the RoC would have to be dissolved, which would rob it of the legal advantages of continuity as a nation. Whoever agrees to this is a traitor to ALL Cypriots. TCs benefit from the continuity of the legal personality of Cyprus as much if not more than GCs.

If Tpap wins then that will seal partition if not then another go at the Annan Plan.

Zan,

A "clean Partition" will never happen. That would be the "death nail" to Turkey's and the "TRNC's" EU ambitions in the future. I don't think Turkey is in the business of committing a "political suicide" by having the "TRNC" getting a "clean" partition. That's why the AP was created to take it's place. the GC's saw it and said OXI, OXI, OXI. As Nikitas said very clearly, what Turkey wants it's the dissolvement of the RoC through any Annan Plan type of BBF. If Turkey and the TC's are serious about a True Federation, than the GC's might just go for it over a Unity Government, but I can assure you, the GC's would rather give the TC's and Turkey the 18% of land and say goodbye to us forever, than get stuck with a BBF Turkey style. No way that TURKEY is ever going to take off the ground Zan no matter what language or threats anyone wants to use to solve the Cyprus Problem.

You use your "RoC" vote to get Tpap in and we shall see what happens Kikapu...Let the next person show the same attitude and we shall see Kikapu. There can be no other form of government without the dissolving of he "RoC" and that is why I keep telling you that if Tpap gets in then partition is sealed with or without GC approval.