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Postby Stout » Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:04 pm

IcyNoAngel wrote:What you see on tv is crap. That's a face made by usa for the world. Behind the scenes they're in war (with everybody). If there is somebody out there that doesn't believe the israeli and the usa are hand in hand, that someone should reconsider.

I might think that most of the humanity is stupid, and the rest, that see all these things, don't really care. So, it gets where it is now. :shock: Don't have any other explanation to worlds situation.


I cannot agree with you that most of humanity is stupid IcyNoAngel, I would suggest that they are rather more POWERLESS than stupid, the same would apply to your comment that they don't really care, public opinion has become irrelevant in today's political arena, care or not, the politicians DON'T.
Whether or not the scenes of devastation are stage managed by the media, they ARE scenes of destruction and the ordinary people are obliged to live amongst them.
As to the fact that the Israelis and the U.S.A. are hand in hand, quite obviously they are, what is not so visible is the possibility that the Jews have managed to infiltrate the political framework of the U.S.A. to such an extent that they now control it, THAT possibility will ensure that there will never be peace anywhere in the Middle East, (or anywhere else they may get a foothold in), watch out Cyprus !, I think they have got their eye on you now. :roll:
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Postby mars » Tue Jan 08, 2008 7:20 pm

Stout wrote:If one wishes to be fair, the creation of Israel was a great injustice to the Arab nations who at that time were not the force they are now


incorrect, you have to read some out of history, there were Russians who firstly come to Holy Land in 1886, many of them where killed by Arabs, later, they start to sell their lands to the Jews, also remember a big help of Stalin who gave the possibility to creation of Israel
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Postby Stout » Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:23 pm

mars wrote:
Stout wrote:If one wishes to be fair, the creation of Israel was a great injustice to the Arab nations who at that time were not the force they are now


incorrect, you have to read some out of history, there were Russians who firstly come to Holy Land in 1886, many of them where killed by Arabs, later, they start to sell their lands to the Jews, also remember a big help of Stalin who gave the possibility to creation of Israel


If the Jews had bought the land, why do they constantly rely on the assertion that it is theirs by biblical right ?, it would indeed be a first if a Jew, able to produce evidence of ownership, opted not to.
I think it has been satisfactorily established that the land now occupied by them is the result of campaign rather than commerce.
The fact that the area of Israel has expanded to such a degree is testimony to that fact.
If I lived in Cyprus, I think I would be seriously concerned about the amount of land the Jews are 'Buying' there, perhaps a little more vigilance in that direction might be wise, if they can't get in the front door, they will get in through the back and you will not realize it until it is too late.
Do you want history ?, read about them. :roll:
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Postby mars » Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:45 pm

it is your own right to choose your neighbours,i dont know much about north, but all i know there are some investments- business, not more
like do many others, british, arabs, russians, and many others
the same story on south
for israeli is better to live in states then here, also because of better immigration politics then here
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Postby phoenix » Wed Jan 09, 2008 5:34 pm

I have a few Israeli and many Jewish friends and they all hate Turks.

I do not understand why they would want to buy and live in the north under Turkish occupation: unless they are starting their tried and tested method of infiltrate from within, and bring down. :lol:

The Israelis are more likely to ingratiate themselves with GCs as they respect the similar cultural and business styles. They have some kind of saying which I've forgotten now, but it's along the lines of " .... the only people that can outwit Jews in business, are the Greeks".
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Postby Southerner » Wed Jan 09, 2008 7:04 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Stout wrote:There is no doubt that the Jews have shown themselves to be THE most tenacious survivors for centuries, they are also capable of engaging in commerce in a fashion which is envied throughout the world, their efforts in Israel, where they have developed the once barren lands is a credit to their tenacity.
What a pity they seem ever to be embroiled in conflict, could it be jealousy ?, or is there a more sinister reason ?.
I do not think it is racist to describe them as Jews, it may well suit their purpose if we don't. :)



I said the above in respect to my uncles wishes,, who taught me to respect jews for the above mentioned qualities of tenacity and business acumen.

On the other hand he was dead against the creation of the State of Israel to the detriment of the Arabs (even though he never forgave the Arabs for betraying the turks during the Great war.)


Long live El Lawrence.
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:21 pm

Southerner wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Stout wrote:There is no doubt that the Jews have shown themselves to be THE most tenacious survivors for centuries, they are also capable of engaging in commerce in a fashion which is envied throughout the world, their efforts in Israel, where they have developed the once barren lands is a credit to their tenacity.
What a pity they seem ever to be embroiled in conflict, could it be jealousy ?, or is there a more sinister reason ?.
I do not think it is racist to describe them as Jews, it may well suit their purpose if we don't. :)



I said the above in respect to my uncles wishes,, who taught me to respect jews for the above mentioned qualities of tenacity and business acumen.

On the other hand he was dead against the creation of the State of Israel to the detriment of the Arabs (even though he never forgave the Arabs for betraying the turks during the Great war.)


Long live El Lawrence.



You mean el Loren :lol: :lol: the story teller :lol: Great movie. Shows the Arabs for what they are.
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:23 pm

phoenix wrote:I have a few Israeli and many Jewish friends and they all hate Turks.
I do not understand why they would want to buy and live in the north under Turkish occupation: unless they are starting their tried and tested method of infiltrate from within, and bring down. :lol:

The Israelis are more likely to ingratiate themselves with GCs as they respect the similar cultural and business styles. They have some kind of saying which I've forgotten now, but it's along the lines of " .... the only people that can outwit Jews in business, are the Greeks".



I am not surprised, they have been infected by your poison :lol:
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Postby phoenix » Wed Jan 09, 2008 10:36 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
phoenix wrote:I have a few Israeli and many Jewish friends and they all hate Turks.
I do not understand why they would want to buy and live in the north under Turkish occupation: unless they are starting their tried and tested method of infiltrate from within, and bring down. :lol:

The Israelis are more likely to ingratiate themselves with GCs as they respect the similar cultural and business styles. They have some kind of saying which I've forgotten now, but it's along the lines of " .... the only people that can outwit Jews in business, are the Greeks".



I am not surprised, they have been infected by your poison :lol:


Much as you may wish that to be the case . . . . I am neither that influential, nor are they so weak minded that they take their opinions from me.

We have already established in this thread how single-minded they are culturally so your point would appear to contradict all the evidence.

However, the fact that my mind has been poisoned by the actions of Turkey is most accurate . . . .
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jan 09, 2008 11:00 pm

phoenix wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
phoenix wrote:I have a few Israeli and many Jewish friends and they all hate Turks.
I do not understand why they would want to buy and live in the north under Turkish occupation: unless they are starting their tried and tested method of infiltrate from within, and bring down. :lol:

The Israelis are more likely to ingratiate themselves with GCs as they respect the similar cultural and business styles. They have some kind of saying which I've forgotten now, but it's along the lines of " .... the only people that can outwit Jews in business, are the Greeks".



I am not surprised, they have been infected by your poison :lol:


Much as you may wish that to be the case . . . . I am neither that influential, nor are they so weak minded that they take their opinions from me.

We have already established in this thread how single-minded they are culturally so your point would appear to contradict all the evidence.

However, the fact that my mind has been poisoned by the actions of Turkey is most accurate . . . .



Phoenix mou, for the last sentence I do not blame you. I am glad you survived.
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