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[Nikitas]

Utu,

Our former President Glafkos Clerides was a RAF officer during World War II. He had been shot down and imprisoned by the Nazis, and escaped twice.

Over 30 000 Greek Cypriots volunteered for service in the British forces, one of them being my father. A large percentage of London fire fighter during the Blitz were Cypriots, about one tentch of the fire service in fact.

We know what each nation has contributed to the anti Nazi effort. Interesting to read the German archives about it too, how they depended on Turkish supplies of chromium for their war industry and found the Greek guerilla actions that disrupted shipments a major obstacle.

[utu]

Calling the British 'Nazi' - particularly the Royal Air Force - turns my stomach. If it wasn't for the RAF in 1940, the Nazis would have won the war.

Please, the if it wasnt for the USSR and the USA the Nazis would have continued to beat the Brits sensless. Which help did Engerand send to Greece during WW2?? Armenian and Greeks from Cyprus, Egypt plus there other colonies. These troops were only sent after Greece had occupied 40 percent of Albania from the Italians. The Serbs and Even the Turks played more of a factor in the war against Italy then Engerland did. Serbia and Turkey both placed 350,000 soldiers on the border with Bulgaria so that they wouldnt intervene and Invade Greece. Do some research that get back to me chap.

Had the UK gone under in 1940, there would have been no second front possible. That would have given Hitler a much better advantage - not to mention more airplanes - in his offensive against USSR. As it turned out, the USA could use UK as a staging point to mainland Europe. The Royal Air Force frustrated the Germans, and it brought the UK valuable time - time to enable them to (a) support the USSR and (b) get the US to help.

[zan]

Calling the British 'Nazi' - particularly the Royal Air Force - turns my stomach. If it wasn't for the RAF in 1940, the Nazis would have won the war.

Please, the if it wasnt for the USSR and the USA the Nazis would have continued to beat the Brits sensless. Which help did Engerand send to Greece during WW2?? Armenian and Greeks from Cyprus, Egypt plus there other colonies. These troops were only sent after Greece had occupied 40 percent of Albania from the Italians. The Serbs and Even the Turks played more of a factor in the war against Italy then Engerland did. Serbia and Turkey both placed 350,000 soldiers on the border with Bulgaria so that they wouldnt intervene and Invade Greece. Do some research that get back to me chap.

Had the UK gone under in 1940, there would have been no second front possible. That would have given Hitler a much better advantage - not to mention more airplanes - in his offensive against USSR. As it turned out, the USA could use UK as a staging point to mainland Europe. The Royal Air Force frustrated the Germans, and it brought the UK valuable time - time to enable them to (a) support the USSR and (b) get the US to help.

I don't know why you bothered to answer utu but you are a polite person so I guess I should not be surprised. It was the 1/2 a million Cypriots that saved the day mate....Everybody knows that

[utu]

In addition, the RAF fought in Mainland Greece and Crete, suffering huge losses - along with the Hellenic Royal Air Force. So having Greek Cypriots stoning an RAF base really is like spitting in the eye of those who had sacrificed. I had read about the appalling losses British, Canadian, Australian, and New Zealand troops suffered in their attempt to stem the Nazi invasion of Mainland Greece and Crete. And this is not even mentioning the Hellenic Armed Forces who fought and suffered especially. Surely Greece would not forget...

[ARMENIAN CYPRIOT]

Calling the British 'Nazi' - particularly the Royal Air Force - turns my stomach. If it wasn't for the RAF in 1940, the Nazis would have won the war.

Please, the if it wasnt for the USSR and the USA the Nazis would have continued to beat the Brits sensless. Which help did Engerand send to Greece during WW2?? Armenian and Greeks from Cyprus, Egypt plus there other colonies. These troops were only sent after Greece had occupied 40 percent of Albania from the Italians. The Serbs and Even the Turks played more of a factor in the war against Italy then Engerland did. Serbia and Turkey both placed 350,000 soldiers on the border with Bulgaria so that they wouldnt intervene and Invade Greece. Do some research that get back to me chap.

Had the UK gone under in 1940, there would have been no second front possible. That would have given Hitler a much better advantage - not to mention more airplanes - in his offensive against USSR. As it turned out, the USA could use UK as a staging point to mainland Europe. The Royal Air Force frustrated the Germans, and it brought the UK valuable time - time to enable them to (a) support the USSR and (b) get the US to help.

I don't know why you bothered to answer utu but you are a polite person so I guess I should not be surprised. It was the 1/2 a million Cypriots that saved the day mate....Everybody knows that

So where exactly did England save the day for a European Nation during WW2?? Was is in Belgium,France,Greece,Holland,Luxemburg,Norway, or Yugoslavia??? Had Germany not been foolish enough to invade the USSR or declare War on the USA after pearl Harbour,England would have kept suffering defeats.Who became the great powers following WW2?? USSR and the USA, so lets not pretend England was the reason the Allies won the war.

[phoenix]

In addition, the RAF fought in Mainland Greece and Crete, suffering huge losses - along with the Hellenic Royal Air Force. So having Greek Cypriots stoning an RAF base really is like spitting in the eye of those who had sacrificed. I had read about the appalling losses British, Canadian, Australian, and New Zealand troops suffered in their attempt to stem the Nazi invasion of Mainland Greece and Crete. And this is not even mentioning the Hellenic Armed Forces who fought and suffered especially. Surely Greece would not forget...

The Greeks and GCs owe nothing to the Brits that has not been repaid many times over in many ways.

Each action is judged on its merits and if they do not serve a positive purpose by basing themselves in Cyprus, then it is up to the people of Cyprus to judge whether they should go or stay.

We are not beholden to the British Bases.

[zan]

Calling the British 'Nazi' - particularly the Royal Air Force - turns my stomach. If it wasn't for the RAF in 1940, the Nazis would have won the war.

Please, the if it wasnt for the USSR and the USA the Nazis would have continued to beat the Brits sensless. Which help did Engerand send to Greece during WW2?? Armenian and Greeks from Cyprus, Egypt plus there other colonies. These troops were only sent after Greece had occupied 40 percent of Albania from the Italians. The Serbs and Even the Turks played more of a factor in the war against Italy then Engerland did. Serbia and Turkey both placed 350,000 soldiers on the border with Bulgaria so that they wouldnt intervene and Invade Greece. Do some research that get back to me chap.

Had the UK gone under in 1940, there would have been no second front possible. That would have given Hitler a much better advantage - not to mention more airplanes - in his offensive against USSR. As it turned out, the USA could use UK as a staging point to mainland Europe. The Royal Air Force frustrated the Germans, and it brought the UK valuable time - time to enable them to (a) support the USSR and (b) get the US to help.

I don't know why you bothered to answer utu but you are a polite person so I guess I should not be surprised. It was the 1/2 a million Cypriots that saved the day mate....Everybody knows that

So where exactly did England save the day for a European Nation during WW2?? Was is in Belgium,France,Greece,Holland,Luxemburg,Norway, or Yugoslavia??? Had Germany not been foolish enough to invade the USSR or declare War on the USA after pearl Harbour,England would have kept suffering defeats.Who became the great powers following WW2?? USSR and the USA, so lets not pretend England was the reason the Allies won the war.

Do you remember that little thing called he battle of Britain????You know the one that virtually crippled the German air-force. How much help did that air supremacy give to the allies?????You are not worth arguing with on this subject mate.........If the UK had gone then the Russians would have done also and the USA would be sitting out there all alone......

[ARMENIAN CYPRIOT]

Zan, England did a great job defending England,they had a great air force plus navy, yet there Army wasnt able to defeat the Germans or Japanese in Europe or there Asian colonies. Had Japan not been as foolish as bombing Pearl Harbour and had Germany not declared war on the USA, I am not so sure The UK and the USSR would have been able to sustain the War. The Allies were losing on every front, with the exception of Africa.The only allied victories that occured on mainland Europe happened to be against the Italians. The French stopped them in there tracks when they attempted to invade it with Germany, then Italy had that fiasco of invading Greece via Albania were they lost 40 percent of that country to Greece. Besides those two victories and the Battle of Britain the Allies were definetly not looking good prior to the USA getting involved.

[zan]

Zan, England did a great job defending England,they had a great air force plus navy, yet there Army wasnt able to defeat the Germans or Japanese in Europe or there Asian colonies. Had Japan not been as foolish as bombing Pearl Harbour and had Germany not declared war on the USA, I am not so sure The UK and the USSR would have been able to sustain the War. The Allies were losing on every front, with the exception of Africa.The only allied victories that occured on mainland Europe happened to be against the Italians. The French stopped them in there tracks when they attempted to invade it with Germany, then Italy had that fiasco of invading Greece via Albania were they lost 40 percent of that country to Greece. Besides those two victories and the Battle of Britain the Allies were definetly not looking good prior to the USA getting involved.

What you have described there is a world war...Which is what it was...No body said that Britain could have done it on their own. The German war machine thought that they could defeat the world and that is why they took them on. I don't get what you mean about France though...I have a postcard at home given to me by my wifes' Granddad with a picture on it of Hitler Under the Eiffel Tower.

[ARMENIAN CYPRIOT]

Zan, the French held the Italians off, but got Crushed by the Germans. The Italians attempted to invade France and were not able to advance , on there front.