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[Piratis]

96% of Cypriots = 80% of all Cypriots. That was in an unofficial referendum among Greek Cypriots. The British didn't allow for an official referendum where all Cypriots would participate because they knew what the result would be.

And where did I ever contradict myself? Have you been dreaming again?

Why didn't they take ethnic vote in Turkey when they decided about their constidution? Did they ask separetely the Kurds, Greeks, Armenians and the other minorities what they want? In the UK maybe the Muslims should vote separately? And in the USA the African Americans the Native Americans, the Irish Americans, the Asian Americans etc should vote separately?

Why should this separation be imposed in Cyprus? Answer: Because Cyprus is not free and was never free, and foreigners impose on us their will instead of allowing us to rule our own island.

Cypriots where never allowed to rule their own island and make their own constitution for their own country. At the very least those that forced on us their will they should accept the responsibility of their decisions which were made to serve the interests of their own countries and not the interests of Cyprus, and stop trying to blame us on top of it.

[Viewpoint]

And who the hell are British or Turks to tell us what to do with our island. Union with Greece was our legitimate right, and we made a referendum where the 96% of Greek Cypriots (80% of Cypriots) supported union with Greece. That was the democratic wish of the Cypriot people.

But then the British and you started to kill us in order to impose on us your will instead of accepting the democratic choice of the Cypriot people.

Do you honestly believe that that line still works Piratis... You have been taking little snippets from Nikitas posts and now think you can use other lines to contradict yourself.....Nice one Pitty Nikitas also said hat the GC people had no concept or need and want for ENOSIS but as you quite rightly said,,,,,Nearly all the GCs voted for ENOSIS in Churches that were off limits to any TC voters....And you wear the badge of democracy with pride.......Take it off man...It has no place anywhere near your corrupt thinking...Lets take a vote but a ethnic one....

Very well said zan.

[zan]

96% of Cypriots = 80% of all Cypriots. That was in an unofficial referendum among Greek Cypriots. The British didn't allow for an official referendum where all Cypriots would participate because they knew what the result would be.

And where did I ever contradict myself? Have you been dreaming again?

Why didn't they take ethnic vote in Turkey when they decided about their constidution? Did they ask separetely the Kurds, Greeks, Armenians and the other minorities what they want? In the UK maybe the Muslims should vote separately? And in the USA the African Americans the Native Americans, the Irish Americans, the Asian Americans etc should vote separately?

Why should this separation be imposed in Cyprus? Answer: Because Cyprus is not free and was never free, and foreigners impose on us their will instead of allowing us to rule our own island.

Cypriots where never allowed to rule their own island and make their own constitution for their own country. At the very least those that forced on us their will they should accept the responsibility of their decisions which were made to serve the interests of their own countries and not the interests of Cyprus, not stop trying to blame us on top of it.

Why don't you just concern yourself with Cyprus like you keep asking them to do and stop the crocodile tears for the Armenians and the Kurds that you do not give a shit about.


We were given a republic with conditions......If you had not wanted to wipe the TC people off the island and unite with Greece then we could have fought against those conditions together....You didn't and decided to kill those that got in your way......Now we have division through lack of your democracy.......

[Viewpoint]

96% of Cypriots = 80% of all Cypriots. That was in an unofficial referendum among Greek Cypriots. The British didn't allow for an official referendum where all Cypriots would participate because they knew what the result would be.

And where did I ever contradict myself? Have you been dreaming again?

Why didn't they take ethnic vote in Turkey when they decided about their constidution? Did they ask separetely the Kurds, Greeks, Armenians and the other minorities what they want? In the UK maybe the Muslims should vote separately? And in the USA the African Americans the Native Americans, the Irish Americans, the Asian Americans etc should vote separately?

Why should this separation be imposed in Cyprus? Answer: Because Cyprus is not free and was never free, and foreigners impose on us their will instead of allowing us to rule our own island.

Cypriots where never allowed to rule their own island and make their own constitution for their own country. At the very least those that forced on us their will they should accept the responsibility of their decisions which were made to serve the interests of their own countries and not the interests of Cyprus, and stop trying to blame us on top of it.

Because you never owned Cyprus and others called the shots, you demanded independence and accepted the terms put before you, you renegged at the first opportunity, thats how binding you signature is and should be taken into consideration if there is ever a solution, because it appears you are not very trustworthy.

[Piratis]

96% of Cypriots = 80% of all Cypriots. That was in an unofficial referendum among Greek Cypriots. The British didn't allow for an official referendum where all Cypriots would participate because they knew what the result would be.

And where did I ever contradict myself? Have you been dreaming again?

Why didn't they take ethnic vote in Turkey when they decided about their constidution? Did they ask separetely the Kurds, Greeks, Armenians and the other minorities what they want? In the UK maybe the Muslims should vote separately? And in the USA the African Americans the Native Americans, the Irish Americans, the Asian Americans etc should vote separately?

Why should this separation be imposed in Cyprus? Answer: Because Cyprus is not free and was never free, and foreigners impose on us their will instead of allowing us to rule our own island.

Cypriots where never allowed to rule their own island and make their own constitution for their own country. At the very least those that forced on us their will they should accept the responsibility of their decisions which were made to serve the interests of their own countries and not the interests of Cyprus, not stop trying to blame us on top of it.

Why don't you just concern yourself with Cyprus like you keep asking them to do and stop the crocodile tears for the Armenians and the Kurds that you do not give a shit about.


We were given a republic with conditions......If you had not wanted to wipe the TC people off the island and unite with Greece then we could have fought against those conditions together....You didn't and decided to kill those that got in your way......Now we have division through lack of your democracy.......

I have already shown you that you are the ones who started the killings because division was your official policy since the 50s.

The Cyprus problem will be solved when the Cypriots are allowed to rule their own country with their own constitution, without foreign troops and without interventions.

If the Cypriot people want to unite their island with Greece, thats their right. Why should that be a concern to the UK or Turkey? Did we ever tell to them what they can or they can't do with their own countries, or did we impose on them that in order to do anything they should take the approval from some minority first? Does Turkey asks its Greek or Kurdish minority before it takes some decision?

[Piratis]

96% of Cypriots = 80% of all Cypriots. That was in an unofficial referendum among Greek Cypriots. The British didn't allow for an official referendum where all Cypriots would participate because they knew what the result would be.

And where did I ever contradict myself? Have you been dreaming again?

Why didn't they take ethnic vote in Turkey when they decided about their constidution? Did they ask separetely the Kurds, Greeks, Armenians and the other minorities what they want? In the UK maybe the Muslims should vote separately? And in the USA the African Americans the Native Americans, the Irish Americans, the Asian Americans etc should vote separately?

Why should this separation be imposed in Cyprus? Answer: Because Cyprus is not free and was never free, and foreigners impose on us their will instead of allowing us to rule our own island.

Cypriots where never allowed to rule their own island and make their own constitution for their own country. At the very least those that forced on us their will they should accept the responsibility of their decisions which were made to serve the interests of their own countries and not the interests of Cyprus, and stop trying to blame us on top of it.

Because you never owned Cyprus and others called the shots, you demanded independence and accepted the terms put before you, you renegged at the first opportunity, thats how binding you signature is and should be taken into consideration if there is ever a solution, because it appears you are not very trustworthy.

And who "owned" Cyprus? The Turks and the British?

You apparently got stuck in the meaning of "ownership" that existed during the colonial times. You didn't understand yet that who owns a place are not the colonialist rulers, but the people who inhabited those places for 1000s of years.

[zan]

96% of Cypriots = 80% of all Cypriots. That was in an unofficial referendum among Greek Cypriots. The British didn't allow for an official referendum where all Cypriots would participate because they knew what the result would be.

And where did I ever contradict myself? Have you been dreaming again?

Why didn't they take ethnic vote in Turkey when they decided about their constidution? Did they ask separetely the Kurds, Greeks, Armenians and the other minorities what they want? In the UK maybe the Muslims should vote separately? And in the USA the African Americans the Native Americans, the Irish Americans, the Asian Americans etc should vote separately?

Why should this separation be imposed in Cyprus? Answer: Because Cyprus is not free and was never free, and foreigners impose on us their will instead of allowing us to rule our own island.

Cypriots where never allowed to rule their own island and make their own constitution for their own country. At the very least those that forced on us their will they should accept the responsibility of their decisions which were made to serve the interests of their own countries and not the interests of Cyprus, not stop trying to blame us on top of it.

Why don't you just concern yourself with Cyprus like you keep asking them to do and stop the crocodile tears for the Armenians and the Kurds that you do not give a shit about.


We were given a republic with conditions......If you had not wanted to wipe the TC people off the island and unite with Greece then we could have fought against those conditions together....You didn't and decided to kill those that got in your way......Now we have division through lack of your democracy.......

I have already shown you that you are the ones who started the killings because division was your official policy since the 50s.

The Cyprus problem will be solved when the Cypriots are allowed to rule their own country with their own constitution, without foreign troops and without interventions.

If the Cypriot people want to unite their island with Greece, thats their right. Why should that be a concern to the UK or Turkey? Did we ever tell to them what they can or they can't do with their own countries, or did we impose on them that in order to do anything they should take the approval from some minority first? Does Turkey asks its Greek or Kurdish minority before it takes some decision?

You have shown nothing mate so stop patting yourself on the head......The fight against your ENOSIS dreams was what caused any fights and the killings from EOKA.

As for Cypriots wanting ENOSIS.......A partner and former owner didn't....The island has got nothing to do with Greece and never has had....We saved you from yourselves so you could call yourself a Cypriot that you keep telling me you are proud of but are lying and contradicting yourself once again.....

[Piratis]

You had no right to kill us because we wanted to unite our own island with Greece. It is our island we do whatever we want with it, especially when what we want to do is 100% our legitimate right as it can be seen in the resolution for decolonization where "integration into an independent State" is defined as a legitimate option . If Turkey and Azerbaijan wanted to unite would they ask the Kurds or the British for approval first?

I am a proud Cypriot, just like there are proud Cretans, proud Athenians and proud Spartans. All Greeks. So where did you see the contradiction?

[zan]

You had no right to kill us because we wanted to unite our own island with Greece. It is our island we do whatever we want with it, especially when what we want to do is 100% our legitimate right as it can be seen in the resolution for decolonization where "integration into an independent State" is defined as a legitimate option . If Turkey and Azerbaijan wanted to unite would they ask the Kurds or the British for approval first?

I am a proud Cypriot, just like there are proud Cretans, proud Athenians and proud Spartans. All Greeks. So where did you see the contradiction?

Grivas in the mountains, bombs on the streets and ENOSIS all over the walls and you accuse us of killing you....You have hit a new low of lies and propaganda mate........

[Piratis]

You had no right to kill us because we wanted to unite our own island with Greece. It is our island we do whatever we want with it, especially when what we want to do is 100% our legitimate right as it can be seen in the resolution for decolonization where "integration into an independent State" is defined as a legitimate option . If Turkey and Azerbaijan wanted to unite would they ask the Kurds or the British for approval first?

I am a proud Cypriot, just like there are proud Cretans, proud Athenians and proud Spartans. All Greeks. So where did you see the contradiction?

Grivas in the mountains, bombs on the streets and ENOSIS all over the walls and you accuse us of killing you....You have hit a new low of lies and propaganda mate........

We fought for our rights Zan. The ones you started to kill us so you would stop us from having. Had you accepted the democratic wish of the Cypriot people which was also our 100% legitimate right, then everything would be peaceful.

But if you start killing us in order to stop us having our rights, then of course we will react. What did you expect? The time when Cypriots would simply sit there and accept others to impose on us their will is over. You had enough of free exploitation of Cyprus. From then on you should know that if you wanted to continue violating our rights and exploiting our island against our will that you would have a cost to pay. To put it otherwise: Bananiots yok (or almost)