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Postby kafenes » Sat Jan 05, 2008 10:55 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
RebelWithoutAPause wrote:I think i read it on here somewhere - the head of the Orthodox Church in Cyprus said that all Turkish Cypriot religious places have been restored or if not - they will pay for the restoration themselves.



Thats a good sign. What we need now is people who will worship in them :roll:

I will have inspect a few of our villages next time I am there.


Deniz, we've been through this subject before. Some time ago Veiwpoint mentioned a list of ten or so mosques which were destroyed, I went specially to look and photograph them. After the sixth one I gave up and realized it was all bullshit as the six mosques I visited were restored to very good condition.
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Postby Jerry » Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:17 pm

Zan, there is no logic and little truth in your posts. You are an ineffective and lightweight propagandists who, frankly, does not deserve a reasoned response.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Jan 05, 2008 11:49 pm

RebelWithoutAPause wrote:[b]shame you werent one of the ones massacred Zan. Im sure there were nicer Turkish Cypriots who were killed that you should have taken the place of.[/b]
Zan, do you even KNOW that Turkish Cypriots massacred Greek Cypriots too? Or is this not in Turkish text books for infants that you read?


The mask drops the real face of another GC exposed. You can no longer bury us alive just because you do not want to hear a few truths.
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Postby zan » Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:18 am

Jerry wrote:Zan, there is no logic and little truth in your posts. You are an ineffective and lightweight propagandists who, frankly, does not deserve a reasoned response.


You have that choice Jerry but you do not have the choice of changing history. You have been given the chance to counter my posts and all you have done is attack me personally. In that....Yes there is no point in answering my posts because you say nothing when you do. :roll:
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Postby boomerang » Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:22 am

The is no excuse of cultural destruction in any country...Cultural destruction means killing your own history...
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Postby oranos64 » Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:32 am

RebelWithoutAPause wrote:shame you werent one of the ones massacred Zan. Im sure there were nicer Turkish Cypriots who were killed that you should have taken the place of.

Zan, do you even KNOW that Turkish Cypriots massacred Greek Cypriots too? Or is this not in Turkish text books for infants that you read?



5 0 said freeze and i didnt run ,,,,

well said rebel //pe no1 ,,,,,it seems all these T.CS forget they massacred 100s of greeks and worked with the brits to ambush greeks protestors arrested by SBA UK OCCUPATINAL FORCES before 61 ,,,,

anyway ,,,,ZAN ,,,one day you and your kind might just admit you commited crimes too ,,,,are you too busy re writing history ,,,,
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:32 am

phoenix wrote:
zan wrote:
phoenix wrote:
zan wrote:
Jerry wrote:
zan wrote:
pantheman wrote:
zan wrote:OH BOOHOO!!! Churches being destroyed :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: Shame you don,t cry as much for all the TCs you massacred hey!!!!!


Zan,

I don't believe you are such am empty person to condone such acts.

We both agree that there were mass killings on both sides right, so come on don't keep on playing that card mate, its sounds like the broken record it is.

Bottom line is, do you honestly agree with such actions that Turkey has taken against us? Really ? Any, sensible, logical thinking person would or should be discusted at such acts. I would be upset if any place of worship was desacrated like these have been.

Come on, you must at least see that much. Just cut out the playground arguements and answer me honestly on this one.

Do You agree with the way our churches have been treated ?

You honest answer is most welcome.



Your beliefs are right mate and it breaks my heart to see these buildings destroyed but it also breaks my heart to see you guys put these buildings in front of he TC people as a matter of importance. The lack of money for such projects is the real deal and if tourism was allowed then these would be restored without a moments hesitation I am sure. The fact that you guys are taking he situation and seeing something else is the saddest part. I love Churches as buildings and appreciate what hey stand or as well but the crocodile tears of some on this subject is sickening.


Typical Zanman response, blame the Greek Cypriots. It costs nothing to leave the churches alone and not loot them. You could have just locked them up in 1974 and either let them fall down or allow GCs maintenence access, alternatively you could have used the proceeds of the stolen icons to repair them yourselves, CRETIN!


Oh right.......While those that bomb and shoot each other in the south always pay their taxes.......The point was...As you obviously missed it.....The churches are not the priority. So simple that even you should be able to get it.......The looting.........How is it that the USA has been asked to stop the trade of Cypriot coins that come from the "RoC" side of the island then......Wasn't it Matsakis that had hundreds of relics in his possession as well and was arrested for it.....How soon they forget.... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: You people make me laugh...Hold us under siege for 40 years plus and expect us to sit about in our tents and rot........Not going o happen baby...We waited for years for you to come to your senses and now the gloves are off......No siege no embargoes no isolation.......Worry about your churches and shed crocodile tears at our leasure....Even those that have not even set foot in a church except for weddings....... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


Boo Zan! :oops:


Of course the Mosques that were burned down are not there to be looted :roll: :roll: Along with village after village.......Wasn't that a picture of Bir sitting outside his derelict house in one of these threads......Let's get some perspective on this shall we :roll: :roll: :roll:


I was only boo-ing the attitude Zan ... and more because it didn't sound like you in your right frame of mind.

Of course I would abhor any desecration of any Cultural history . . . but I am not aware of any Mosques deliberately ruined ...



Phoenix mou, seek and ye shall find. I did suggest, on your tour you could take notes? Perhaps?
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Postby phoenix » Sun Jan 06, 2008 2:35 am

denizaksulu wrote:
phoenix wrote:
zan wrote:
phoenix wrote:
zan wrote:
Jerry wrote:
zan wrote:
pantheman wrote:
zan wrote:OH BOOHOO!!! Churches being destroyed :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: Shame you don,t cry as much for all the TCs you massacred hey!!!!!


Zan,

I don't believe you are such am empty person to condone such acts.

We both agree that there were mass killings on both sides right, so come on don't keep on playing that card mate, its sounds like the broken record it is.

Bottom line is, do you honestly agree with such actions that Turkey has taken against us? Really ? Any, sensible, logical thinking person would or should be discusted at such acts. I would be upset if any place of worship was desacrated like these have been.

Come on, you must at least see that much. Just cut out the playground arguements and answer me honestly on this one.

Do You agree with the way our churches have been treated ?

You honest answer is most welcome.



Your beliefs are right mate and it breaks my heart to see these buildings destroyed but it also breaks my heart to see you guys put these buildings in front of he TC people as a matter of importance. The lack of money for such projects is the real deal and if tourism was allowed then these would be restored without a moments hesitation I am sure. The fact that you guys are taking he situation and seeing something else is the saddest part. I love Churches as buildings and appreciate what hey stand or as well but the crocodile tears of some on this subject is sickening.


Typical Zanman response, blame the Greek Cypriots. It costs nothing to leave the churches alone and not loot them. You could have just locked them up in 1974 and either let them fall down or allow GCs maintenence access, alternatively you could have used the proceeds of the stolen icons to repair them yourselves, CRETIN!


Oh right.......While those that bomb and shoot each other in the south always pay their taxes.......The point was...As you obviously missed it.....The churches are not the priority. So simple that even you should be able to get it.......The looting.........How is it that the USA has been asked to stop the trade of Cypriot coins that come from the "RoC" side of the island then......Wasn't it Matsakis that had hundreds of relics in his possession as well and was arrested for it.....How soon they forget.... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: You people make me laugh...Hold us under siege for 40 years plus and expect us to sit about in our tents and rot........Not going o happen baby...We waited for years for you to come to your senses and now the gloves are off......No siege no embargoes no isolation.......Worry about your churches and shed crocodile tears at our leasure....Even those that have not even set foot in a church except for weddings....... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


Boo Zan! :oops:


Of course the Mosques that were burned down are not there to be looted :roll: :roll: Along with village after village.......Wasn't that a picture of Bir sitting outside his derelict house in one of these threads......Let's get some perspective on this shall we :roll: :roll: :roll:


I was only boo-ing the attitude Zan ... and more because it didn't sound like you in your right frame of mind.

Of course I would abhor any desecration of any Cultural history . . . but I am not aware of any Mosques deliberately ruined ...



Phoenix mou, seek and ye shall find. I did suggest, on your tour you could take notes? Perhaps?


Deniz, I still can't find any accounts of deliberate destruction of mosques by GCs . . . .
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:05 am

phoenix wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
phoenix wrote:
zan wrote:
phoenix wrote:
zan wrote:
Jerry wrote:
zan wrote:
pantheman wrote:
zan wrote:OH BOOHOO!!! Churches being destroyed :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: Shame you don,t cry as much for all the TCs you massacred hey!!!!!


Zan,

I don't believe you are such am empty person to condone such acts.

We both agree that there were mass killings on both sides right, so come on don't keep on playing that card mate, its sounds like the broken record it is.

Bottom line is, do you honestly agree with such actions that Turkey has taken against us? Really ? Any, sensible, logical thinking person would or should be discusted at such acts. I would be upset if any place of worship was desacrated like these have been.

Come on, you must at least see that much. Just cut out the playground arguements and answer me honestly on this one.

Do You agree with the way our churches have been treated ?

You honest answer is most welcome.



Your beliefs are right mate and it breaks my heart to see these buildings destroyed but it also breaks my heart to see you guys put these buildings in front of he TC people as a matter of importance. The lack of money for such projects is the real deal and if tourism was allowed then these would be restored without a moments hesitation I am sure. The fact that you guys are taking he situation and seeing something else is the saddest part. I love Churches as buildings and appreciate what hey stand or as well but the crocodile tears of some on this subject is sickening.


Typical Zanman response, blame the Greek Cypriots. It costs nothing to leave the churches alone and not loot them. You could have just locked them up in 1974 and either let them fall down or allow GCs maintenence access, alternatively you could have used the proceeds of the stolen icons to repair them yourselves, CRETIN!


Oh right.......While those that bomb and shoot each other in the south always pay their taxes.......The point was...As you obviously missed it.....The churches are not the priority. So simple that even you should be able to get it.......The looting.........How is it that the USA has been asked to stop the trade of Cypriot coins that come from the "RoC" side of the island then......Wasn't it Matsakis that had hundreds of relics in his possession as well and was arrested for it.....How soon they forget.... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: You people make me laugh...Hold us under siege for 40 years plus and expect us to sit about in our tents and rot........Not going o happen baby...We waited for years for you to come to your senses and now the gloves are off......No siege no embargoes no isolation.......Worry about your churches and shed crocodile tears at our leasure....Even those that have not even set foot in a church except for weddings....... :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


Boo Zan! :oops:


Of course the Mosques that were burned down are not there to be looted :roll: :roll: Along with village after village.......Wasn't that a picture of Bir sitting outside his derelict house in one of these threads......Let's get some perspective on this shall we :roll: :roll: :roll:


I was only boo-ing the attitude Zan ... and more because it didn't sound like you in your right frame of mind.

Of course I would abhor any desecration of any Cultural history . . . but I am not aware of any Mosques deliberately ruined ...



Phoenix mou, seek and ye shall find. I did suggest, on your tour you could take notes? Perhaps?


Deniz, I still can't find any accounts of deliberate destruction of mosques by GCs . . . .



Ofcourse not. What accounts are you after ? Written ones? Oh yes Mr. Christos pulled down 2 mosques in the Larnaca district on such and such date. Written and published. On yer bike girl. Halil has quite a few documented video recordings. But you are not talking anymore.
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Postby zan » Sun Jan 06, 2008 3:12 am

oranos64 wrote:
RebelWithoutAPause wrote:shame you werent one of the ones massacred Zan. Im sure there were nicer Turkish Cypriots who were killed that you should have taken the place of.

Zan, do you even KNOW that Turkish Cypriots massacred Greek Cypriots too? Or is this not in Turkish text books for infants that you read?



5 0 said freeze and i didnt run ,,,,

well said rebel //pe no1 ,,,,,it seems all these T.CS forget they massacred 100s of greeks and worked with the brits to ambush greeks protestors arrested by SBA UK OCCUPATINAL FORCES before 61 ,,,,

anyway ,,,,ZAN ,,,one day you and your kind might just admit you commited crimes too ,,,,are you too busy re writing history ,,,,


I have never denied them but plead guilty in trying to justify them......Not in the sense of wanting to kill people but the reasons I will not repeat, and I think you know what I am talking about, because I will be accused of propaganda and I don't want that tonight. I am sure I will be bak on form tomorrow though.... :wink: :wink: :lol:
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