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Othellos

In principal I would agree with your above satement. However, in this particular case I must point out that you are being "generous" with other peoples (occupied) homes and lands. Now this is a very easy thing to do, but that does not mean that it is also right.

We cant turn the clock back and what is done is done theres no magic formula to make everything right all that we could do is try to put things right by negotiations for a comprehensive solution which we have been trying to do for over 40 years, it must be obvious to everyone on this forum although the majority do not want to admitt it but we are no closer to agreeing and making a solution now that we were 40 years, the years have passed by our mistrust and non tollerance of each other has not change one bit. We messed up big time and we have to live with the consequences which is what we have now.

This is not about material wealth: it is about the right to live and exist in your own country as a free human being. But of course one may chose not to understand that, depending on what his interests are. Simply put and as other GC members wrote elsewhere in this forum several times) all we want is what belongs to us.

Where do you live and exist Othellos??dont you live in your own country the RoC??? How can we both give back what TCs and GCs lost during the last 40 years, how is this possible we dont trust you and you dont trust us and obviously from certain comments on this forum have venumous attitude towards us and that any attempt to live together is doomed from the outset because of actions and dialogue not 30 years ago but today, just read the comments of the contributors, anger hate and rejection of each other fears and concerns, this is not a good foundation to erect a united Cyprus.

While you try to built your arguments on assumprions ("if", "would have been"), the fact is that in july 1974 it was the GCs who were wiped out (ethnically cleansed) from the occupied areas, by Turkey. 31 years later, we have certain TCs "advocating" in favor of this ethnic cleansing and its results, while at the same time they claim that they support ..."reunification" (do they support it?)

I have to say with regret that we all paid the price for our actions, we Cypriots messed up big time.

So, where is your wife from? I am curious to know more about this case that you describe and in which you claim that GCs attacked TCs before the invasion actually started.

Kucuk Kaymakli, they had to evacuate their home in the fighting of the 1963 and got caught up in the fighting in 1974.

Othellos do you really believe we can live together in a safe free and prosperous environment and under a united Cyprus, many know my personal opinion which is we cannot otherwise we will be arguing forever and not getting anywhere, TCs should accept to returns lands + compensation and GCs should agree to partition/recognition + compensation.

[MicAtCyp]

it must be obvious to everyone on this forum although the majority do not want to admitt it but we are no closer to agreeing and making a solution now that we were 40 years, the years have passed by our mistrust and non tollerance of each other has not change one bit.

For 40 years you had nothing to lose. Now you have everything to lose. That's why you are in a hurry for an agreed partition. To have partition you must a) be able to return us 19% of land that you owe us within a fraction of a second b) Get permission from your Generals in Turkey.
You can do none of the 2 so better revise your plans, before we revise ours.

[uzan]

Harry,

People like Deejay, want us to visit our own country like tourists. They want to keep what they stole from us. Such people are criminal thieves.

Deejay, I don't need your "welcoming". I will come to the north of my own country sooner or later without it. Either when a peaceful solution comes that will re-unite the island or when I will come to put a bullet in the head of those like you that believe that the Cyprus problem can be solved with violence and ethnic cleansing.

This is exactly what happend 1963 one IDIOT JUST LIKE pirates shoot the student in the shcool ground and the 63 war started.It is showing us gc not change and we cant trust.We should not trust to leave together after what people like pirates tell us.

[Piratis]

Uzan, unlike you ,I never committed a single crime in my life.

But what do you want me to do when criminal thieves like you occupy our land and they do not let us return to our homes, threatening us that if we attempt to return to our own homes they will put us to jail or kill us?

I don't care if criminals like you trust me or not. I don't need your trust.

I know that you will never voluntarily leave from our homes, and this is something you admitted many times.

So I repeat my statement, that RoC reserves every right to use military force to take back its own land from the occupying force. This is our right, it is defending our homeland, and there is nothing wrong with it.
What is wrong is your illegal occupation of part of my country.

[insan]

So I repeat my statement, that RoC reserves every right to use military force to take back its own land from the occupying force. This is our right, it is defending our homeland, and there is nothing wrong with it.
What is wrong is your illegal occupation of part of my country.

So why did your leadership signed the agreements and accpeted restoring constitutional order on a bi-communal, bi-zonal federation based upon "political equality" of two communities? First you accepted the defacto situation that coupists and their political front caused; now you are trying to ignore it. You are relly so funny. But whole world slowly, slowly began realizing your hypocrisy and dirty game. There's no way out. Partition is on the way coming soon.

[Piratis]

Partition is on the way coming soon.

So why you are here Insan? Go enjoy your life. Just remember to tell your children that the land they live on is stolen, and that the legal owners will sooner or later come back to take it.

This is our island for 3500 years, and you can not take any part away from us. We will never forget, and we will always wait for the right time. And be sure, the balance of power shifts, and that time will come sooner or later.

[insan]

So why you are here Insan? Go enjoy your life. Just remember to tell your children that the land they live on is stolen, and that the legal owners will sooner or later come back to take it.

I'll tell them the full story of two communities and how we were left with the only option to partition Cyprus and exchange the properties we owned.

Partition is on the way coming soon.

This is our island for 3500 years, and you can not take any part away from us. We will never forget, and we will always wait for the right time. And be sure, the balance of power shifts, and that time will come sooner or later.

Yes. In 6 to 9 months time will have come to settle the accounts for the last time. Thenceforth we'll begin talking about how we can cooperate, collaborate as two independent neighbouring countries.

[Piratis]

Talk to yourselves. Meanwhile we will be blocking Turkey out of EU.

[insan]

Talk to yourselves. Meanwhile we will be blocking Turkey out of EU.

You can't do anything else than what EU's big boys allow you. But even you are not aware of this simple fact.

[Piratis]

We will see.

If you decided for partition, start giving back the RoC passports.