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Postby T_C » Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:20 pm

You have made your point clear to me, but it's riddled with cracks Kikapu! It's not just about wrong doings or even the past...it's about you jumping at every given chance to defend the GCs no matter what it's about and NEVER doing ANYTHING to stick up for TCs! NEVER Kikapu, NEVER EVER! No matter what excuse you give will not be good enough when you live up to your biased image EVERY DAY! Not even when we're being verbally abused do you say anything...but you're only too quick to jump to save the GCs. Why is that Kikapu? Forget being a referee but why is it that you've NEVER done that for us but you're always rushing to aid the GCs?

Sorry but if you claim to be "tarafsiz" then you have to be balanced and balanced you certainly are not! You can't stick up for GCs and completely ignore TCs when they need sticking up for, whatever you were aiming for you failed Kikapu.

The fact remains you are BIASED and pretty much every TC has told you this, you can keep telling yourself that it's because you're telling us the truth and we don't like it but as I've said a MILLION times it is NOT that. You are too biased but way too arrogant to see it... :evil:
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Postby zan » Tue Jan 08, 2008 8:25 pm

Sotos wrote:You are the geezer Zan. You didn't want one country. You didn't want RoC. You wanted some Turkish state on our land. You now want the same also.


I am a geezer yes Sotos...Do you know what it means :roll:


You are just talking now with no substance.
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Postby Nikitas » Tue Jan 08, 2008 9:27 pm

Kikapu is the one person in here who has had experience of GC led attack on his family in Kaimakli and of a subsequent arrest at an age when he could understand what was going on. Others had similar experiences but Kikapu did so in his early teens if I recall correctly. So he does not need any reminding of what bigorty and fanaticism can do.

To the TCs he may sound as if he is taking the GC side. To me he sounds like someone who has lived in several countries which underwent far worse civil conflicts than ours and has realised a few things about Cyprus.

At times it sounds and feels like both sides want to cling on to the conflict for dear life. As if the world would disappear if we let it go. Kikapu too has expressed this view in other ways in his posts. Some of us want to move on from this "you started first you killed more people" tit for tat game.

And some of us here do not feel at all happy at the prospect of a part or the whole of Cyprus becoming a district of either Turkey or Greece. In short some people in here have broken free of tha narrow nationalist tripe produced by both sides. The inability to see this for what it is and mistaking it for "taking the other side" tells a lot about where we are and how far we have to go.
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Postby zan » Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:00 pm

Nikitas wrote:Kikapu is the one person in here who has had experience of GC led attack on his family in Kaimakli and of a subsequent arrest at an age when he could understand what was going on. Others had similar experiences but Kikapu did so in his early teens if I recall correctly. So he does not need any reminding of what bigorty and fanaticism can do.

To the TCs he may sound as if he is taking the GC side. To me he sounds like someone who has lived in several countries which underwent far worse civil conflicts than ours and has realised a few things about Cyprus.

At times it sounds and feels like both sides want to cling on to the conflict for dear life. As if the world would disappear if we let it go. Kikapu too has expressed this view in other ways in his posts. Some of us want to move on from this "you started first you killed more people" tit for tat game.

And some of us here do not feel at all happy at the prospect of a part or the whole of Cyprus becoming a district of either Turkey or Greece. In short some people in here have broken free of tha narrow nationalist tripe produced by both sides. The inability to see this for what it is and mistaking it for "taking the other side" tells a lot about where we are and how far we have to go.


He is not the only person here that went through that at that sort of age by a long shot. I know for a fact that eric-dayi did and Deniz did. MR-from-NG did as well....I was 3 in 1963. I know of eric-dayis writing up to at least 4 years ago and he has just about had enough that in that whole time he has not gotten through to a single GC and no he has not always been as angry as he sounds now. You guys have succeeded in turning away every TC that has had the decency to try and explain some of the truths that you have not been told. You do not accept what we went through and the what the embargoes did. You do not accept our past and you do not respect our present.....I need to stop now because I am getting very very angry.....
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:13 pm

T_C wrote:You have made your point clear to me, but it's riddled with cracks Kikapu! It's not just about wrong doings or even the past...it's about you jumping at every given chance to defend the GCs no matter what it's about and NEVER doing ANYTHING to stick up for TCs! NEVER Kikapu, NEVER EVER! No matter what excuse you give will not be good enough when you live up to your biased image EVERY DAY! Not even when we're being verbally abused do you say anything...but you're only too quick to jump to save the GCs. Why is that Kikapu? Forget being a referee but why is it that you've NEVER done that for us but you're always rushing to aid the GCs?

Sorry but if you claim to be "tarafsiz" then you have to be balanced and balanced you certainly are not! You can't stick up for GCs and completely ignore TCs when they need sticking up for, whatever you were aiming for you failed Kikapu.

The fact remains you are BIASED and pretty much every TC has told you this, you can keep telling yourself that it's because you're telling us the truth and we don't like it but as I've said a MILLION times it is NOT that. You are too biased but way too arrogant to see it... :evil:


I applaud your intelligence TC, you are our future and as long as you see what people who claim they are TC are trying to do then you will not go wrong and will continue to put our side of the story forward.
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Postby MR-from-NG » Tue Jan 08, 2008 10:51 pm

T_C wrote:You have made your point clear to me, but it's riddled with cracks Kikapu! It's not just about wrong doings or even the past...it's about you jumping at every given chance to defend the GCs no matter what it's about and NEVER doing ANYTHING to stick up for TCs! NEVER Kikapu, NEVER EVER! No matter what excuse you give will not be good enough when you live up to your biased image EVERY DAY! Not even when we're being verbally abused do you say anything...but you're only too quick to jump to save the GCs. Why is that Kikapu? Forget being a referee but why is it that you've NEVER done that for us but you're always rushing to aid the GCs?

Sorry but if you claim to be "tarafsiz" then you have to be balanced and balanced you certainly are not! You can't stick up for GCs and completely ignore TCs when they need sticking up for, whatever you were aiming for you failed Kikapu.

The fact remains you are BIASED and pretty much every TC has told you this, you can keep telling yourself that it's because you're telling us the truth and we don't like it but as I've said a MILLION times it is NOT that. You are too biased but way too arrogant to see it... :evil:


Bravo T-C.
I made a promise for the new year to have very little if any at all to do with the forum but I had to congratulate you for this excellent post.

I personally have given up going in circles with unreasonable, arrogant and ignorant GCs like Piratis, Kikapu, Sotos, kifeas and Phoenix & co. Enough is enough.

As far as I'm concerned there is nothing much left to argue about. The rest of the world has at long last realised that there is more to the Cyprob than what the Greeks have been feeding them all this time. The game is up for the GCs and it is the year of us TCs.

These fools will regret it all but it would have been too late. I always said give them enough rope they'll hang themselves.

Bye for now :wink: :wink:
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Postby zan » Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:13 pm

MR-from-NG wrote:
T_C wrote:You have made your point clear to me, but it's riddled with cracks Kikapu! It's not just about wrong doings or even the past...it's about you jumping at every given chance to defend the GCs no matter what it's about and NEVER doing ANYTHING to stick up for TCs! NEVER Kikapu, NEVER EVER! No matter what excuse you give will not be good enough when you live up to your biased image EVERY DAY! Not even when we're being verbally abused do you say anything...but you're only too quick to jump to save the GCs. Why is that Kikapu? Forget being a referee but why is it that you've NEVER done that for us but you're always rushing to aid the GCs?

Sorry but if you claim to be "tarafsiz" then you have to be balanced and balanced you certainly are not! You can't stick up for GCs and completely ignore TCs when they need sticking up for, whatever you were aiming for you failed Kikapu.

The fact remains you are BIASED and pretty much every TC has told you this, you can keep telling yourself that it's because you're telling us the truth and we don't like it but as I've said a MILLION times it is NOT that. You are too biased but way too arrogant to see it... :evil:


Bravo T-C.
I made a promise for the new year to have very little if any at all to do with the forum but I had to congratulate you for this excellent post.

I personally have given up going in circles with unreasonable, arrogant and ignorant GCs like Piratis, Kikapu, Sotos, kifeas and Phoenix & co. Enough is enough.

As far as I'm concerned there is nothing much left to argue about. The rest of the world has at long last realised that there is more to the Cyprob than what the Greeks have been feeding them all this time. The game is up for the GCs and it is the year of us TCs.

These fools will regret it all but it would have been too late. I always said give them enough rope they'll hang themselves.

Bye for now :wink: :wink:



Kutlu olsun kardesim.............You don't have to argue you know....We can always have some fun :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: Still can't seem to be able to get everyone to this night out mate......I am going to do it as a whoever comes situation and I might end up sitting there on my own....
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Postby MR-from-NG » Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:21 pm

zan wrote:
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T_C wrote:You have made your point clear to me, but it's riddled with cracks Kikapu! It's not just about wrong doings or even the past...it's about you jumping at every given chance to defend the GCs no matter what it's about and NEVER doing ANYTHING to stick up for TCs! NEVER Kikapu, NEVER EVER! No matter what excuse you give will not be good enough when you live up to your biased image EVERY DAY! Not even when we're being verbally abused do you say anything...but you're only too quick to jump to save the GCs. Why is that Kikapu? Forget being a referee but why is it that you've NEVER done that for us but you're always rushing to aid the GCs?

Sorry but if you claim to be "tarafsiz" then you have to be balanced and balanced you certainly are not! You can't stick up for GCs and completely ignore TCs when they need sticking up for, whatever you were aiming for you failed Kikapu.

The fact remains you are BIASED and pretty much every TC has told you this, you can keep telling yourself that it's because you're telling us the truth and we don't like it but as I've said a MILLION times it is NOT that. You are too biased but way too arrogant to see it... :evil:


Bravo T-C.
I made a promise for the new year to have very little if any at all to do with the forum but I had to congratulate you for this excellent post.

I personally have given up going in circles with unreasonable, arrogant and ignorant GCs like Piratis, Kikapu, Sotos, kifeas and Phoenix & co. Enough is enough.

As far as I'm concerned there is nothing much left to argue about. The rest of the world has at long last realised that there is more to the Cyprob than what the Greeks have been feeding them all this time. The game is up for the GCs and it is the year of us TCs.

These fools will regret it all but it would have been too late. I always said give them enough rope they'll hang themselves.

Bye for now :wink: :wink:



Kutlu olsun kardesim.............You don't have to argue you know....We can always have some fun :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: Still can't seem to be able to get everyone to this night out mate......I am going to do it as a whoever comes situation and I might end up sitting there on my own....


Zan kardesim, I am always ready for a night out with you and friends. I'm just a phone call away.

T-C made a great post for which I congratulate him. He, at this young age has seen Kikapu's true colours, he knows what Kikapu stands for and is ready to challenge him. Well done to him.

Hade Zan, get the boys together, you will be impressed with the food in the place I plan on taking you.

Take care mate :wink:
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Postby zan » Tue Jan 08, 2008 11:33 pm

MR-from-NG wrote:
zan wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:
T_C wrote:You have made your point clear to me, but it's riddled with cracks Kikapu! It's not just about wrong doings or even the past...it's about you jumping at every given chance to defend the GCs no matter what it's about and NEVER doing ANYTHING to stick up for TCs! NEVER Kikapu, NEVER EVER! No matter what excuse you give will not be good enough when you live up to your biased image EVERY DAY! Not even when we're being verbally abused do you say anything...but you're only too quick to jump to save the GCs. Why is that Kikapu? Forget being a referee but why is it that you've NEVER done that for us but you're always rushing to aid the GCs?

Sorry but if you claim to be "tarafsiz" then you have to be balanced and balanced you certainly are not! You can't stick up for GCs and completely ignore TCs when they need sticking up for, whatever you were aiming for you failed Kikapu.

The fact remains you are BIASED and pretty much every TC has told you this, you can keep telling yourself that it's because you're telling us the truth and we don't like it but as I've said a MILLION times it is NOT that. You are too biased but way too arrogant to see it... :evil:


Bravo T-C.
I made a promise for the new year to have very little if any at all to do with the forum but I had to congratulate you for this excellent post.

I personally have given up going in circles with unreasonable, arrogant and ignorant GCs like Piratis, Kikapu, Sotos, kifeas and Phoenix & co. Enough is enough.

As far as I'm concerned there is nothing much left to argue about. The rest of the world has at long last realised that there is more to the Cyprob than what the Greeks have been feeding them all this time. The game is up for the GCs and it is the year of us TCs.

These fools will regret it all but it would have been too late. I always said give them enough rope they'll hang themselves.

Bye for now :wink: :wink:



Kutlu olsun kardesim.............You don't have to argue you know....We can always have some fun :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: Still can't seem to be able to get everyone to this night out mate......I am going to do it as a whoever comes situation and I might end up sitting there on my own....


Zan kardesim, I am always ready for a night out with you and friends. I'm just a phone call away.

T-C made a great post for which I congratulate him. He, at this young age has seen Kikapu's true colours, he knows what Kikapu stands for and is ready to challenge him. Well done to him.

Hade Zan, get the boys together, you will be impressed with the food in the place I plan on taking you.

Take care mate :wink:


Looking forward to it my friend.


T_C is a nice guy and that is one of the reasons that I got so angry earlier...........All these young people that have had enough and thousands more back home that worry about what is going to happen with education and everything......Enough is enough as you said.
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Postby Kikapu » Wed Jan 09, 2008 12:22 am

To all those TC's who have seen fit to take their best shot at me tonight as well as any other times for my expression of the situations that has to do with the "TRNC" and Cyprus problems in general, I would like to refer you all to an old Turkish proverb, which is "Dogruyu söyleyeni 9 köyden kovarlar".

Well my TC friends, you are each one of those köy's.

Translation to "Dogruyu söyleyeni 9 köyden kovarlar".

"Those who tell the truth are chased from 9 villages".
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