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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:27 pm

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T_C wrote:Check out this cover of Life magazine I found with TCs on it (1964)!
:D

A Turkish flag waves over a roadside emplacement in Cyprus. Turkish Cypriots armed with shotguns, crouch behind sandbags as Greek snipers fire down from the hills.


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and anyone seen this one?

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:shock:



TC, are you teasing me. That is Kophinou with my other yegens behind the sandbags. The mountain behind must be Stavrovouni/ Mountain of the Cross/ Stavros dagi, just above my village. The Cypress trees are in the village cemetary.



TC, could you please let me know if I am right?
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:32 pm

Kikapu wrote:
T_C wrote:Check out this cover of Life magazine I found with TCs on it (1964)!
:D

A Turkish flag waves over a roadside emplacement in Cyprus. Turkish Cypriots armed with shotguns, crouch behind sandbags as Greek snipers fire down from the hills.


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and anyone seen this one?

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:shock:


I think the person who turned the coffee cup, turned it the wrong way, since the split is Vertical and not Horizontal.!!!

Perhaps that was the "old partition plan" before it was modified to the "new partition plan". :lol: :lol:



I think the cup symbolises the blood shed through the heart of Cyprus. And for what? No answers please.
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Postby T_C » Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:43 pm

Sorry deniz it doesn't say where it was shot...I found it while looking for antique Cypriot pots on ebay...
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Postby halil » Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:46 pm

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Tim Drayton wrote:Bir,
Thanks for passing on details of the new book about the Special War Department.
Drat! I was in a left-wing bookshop in the north of Nicosia yesterday, and they most certainly must have this book in stock.
What scared me was that I wanted to buy Neşe Yaşın's controversial new novel which has led to her receiving death threats from the TC far right. I asked one assistant if they had her latest novel in stock and he, with a perfectly straight face, asked me to repeat the author's surname and entered this into the computer, then informing me that they did not have it. He acted as though he had never heard this name. A little later, I asked the owner of the shop the same question. She knows me and proceeded to produce a copy which was hidden under a peice of cloth on the counter. It makes me wonder if a climate of fear has returned to the TC community.


Tim,
Did you try the bigest bookstore called DENİZ PLAZA in NİCOSİA.
At weekend her brother Mehmet Yaşın was there . Talking with his readers and signing for his books . There is no fear in north as you are thinking Tim.
You can get and buy anykind of book from them .


Glad to hear there is no fear any more. Kutlu Adalı showed no fear and look what happened to him. I truly hope that his case will be the last ever "faili meçhul" in Cyprus.


İ am also glad that you said "faili meçhul" in Cyprus . Still Güzelyurtlu is also "faili meçhul" .
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Postby Tim Drayton » Tue Jan 08, 2008 2:51 pm

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Nikitas wrote:Zan,

If Turkey had no interest in Cyprus why the clandestine importation of arms? Why the continuing teaching of invasion tactics in the Turkish military academies? Things are not set up unless they are intended ot be used.

The policy was locked in and is still there. Turkey is undergoing a crisis now because all these policies it has clash with EU requirements. The military in Turkey have a special position in the country. There is no other country in the EU hat affords the military the same participation in government as Turkey. If this system does not change the policy in Cyprus will stay the same.

The phrase "deep state" is not a foreign invention, Turks themselves coined it and use it often.


Nikitas, do you know the Turkish phrase the Turks used for 'deep state'?

Can anyone enlighten us? I am unfamiliar with any expression which would be used.


Try entering "derin devlet" in google.
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:22 pm

T_C wrote:Sorry deniz it doesn't say where it was shot...I found it while looking for antique Cypriot pots on ebay...



Thats ok. I know the place very well. BK would also know it. The sandbags are on the , what was then the new by-pass, the 'old main road' is on the right in front of the cemetary. I have taken so many pics from that site. I remember when the 'new by-pass' was being built 1958, through the white chalk hill-sides, neo-lithic caves were discovered with all sorts of potteries. They were guarded day and night by the local appointed person. Appointed by the authorities. The person (who shal remain anonymous) was the local 'thief'. He used to brag, that the gold rings on his fingers were discovered in these caves. We all laughed as we knew they were the products of his profession. Well this is an island called Cyprus, where you ask the fox to guard your chooks BK.

BK, do you recognise the photo?

Pics do bring back memories.
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:24 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Nikitas wrote:Zan,

If Turkey had no interest in Cyprus why the clandestine importation of arms? Why the continuing teaching of invasion tactics in the Turkish military academies? Things are not set up unless they are intended ot be used.

The policy was locked in and is still there. Turkey is undergoing a crisis now because all these policies it has clash with EU requirements. The military in Turkey have a special position in the country. There is no other country in the EU hat affords the military the same participation in government as Turkey. If this system does not change the policy in Cyprus will stay the same.

The phrase "deep state" is not a foreign invention, Turks themselves coined it and use it often.


Nikitas, do you know the Turkish phrase the Turks used for 'deep state'?

Can anyone enlighten us? I am unfamiliar with any expression which would be used.


Try entering "derin devlet" in google.


Thanks Tim, I will.
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:43 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Nikitas wrote:Zan,

If Turkey had no interest in Cyprus why the clandestine importation of arms? Why the continuing teaching of invasion tactics in the Turkish military academies? Things are not set up unless they are intended ot be used.

The policy was locked in and is still there. Turkey is undergoing a crisis now because all these policies it has clash with EU requirements. The military in Turkey have a special position in the country. There is no other country in the EU hat affords the military the same participation in government as Turkey. If this system does not change the policy in Cyprus will stay the same.

The phrase "deep state" is not a foreign invention, Turks themselves coined it and use it often.


Nikitas, do you know the Turkish phrase the Turks used for 'deep state'?

Can anyone enlighten us? I am unfamiliar with any expression which would be used.


Try entering "derin devlet" in google.



Wow. It seems as sinister or even far worse than the 'Opus Dei'.

Thanks again.
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Postby BirKibrisli » Tue Jan 08, 2008 3:55 pm

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T_C wrote:Sorry deniz it doesn't say where it was shot...I found it while looking for antique Cypriot pots on ebay...



Thats ok. I know the place very well. BK would also know it. The sandbags are on the , what was then the new by-pass, the 'old main road' is on the right in front of the cemetary. I have taken so many pics from that site. I remember when the 'new by-pass' was being built 1958, through the white chalk hill-sides, neo-lithic caves were discovered with all sorts of potteries. They were guarded day and night by the local appointed person. Appointed by the authorities. The person (who shal remain anonymous) was the local 'thief'. He used to brag, that the gold rings on his fingers were discovered in these caves. We all laughed as we knew they were the products of his profession. Well this is an island called Cyprus, where you ask the fox to guard your chooks BK.

BK, do you recognise the photo?

Pics do bring back memories.


Yes,Deniz...The landscape is very familiar to me too. It certainly looks like Kofunye. And the fighters look very much like our cousins,Betonlar...
Amazing... :)
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Jan 08, 2008 4:00 pm

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T_C wrote:Sorry deniz it doesn't say where it was shot...I found it while looking for antique Cypriot pots on ebay...



Thats ok. I know the place very well. BK would also know it. The sandbags are on the , what was then the new by-pass, the 'old main road' is on the right in front of the cemetary. I have taken so many pics from that site. I remember when the 'new by-pass' was being built 1958, through the white chalk hill-sides, neo-lithic caves were discovered with all sorts of potteries. They were guarded day and night by the local appointed person. Appointed by the authorities. The person (who shal remain anonymous) was the local 'thief'. He used to brag, that the gold rings on his fingers were discovered in these caves. We all laughed as we knew they were the products of his profession. Well this is an island called Cyprus, where you ask the fox to guard your chooks BK.

BK, do you recognise the photo?

Pics do bring back memories.


Yes,Deniz...The landscape is very familiar to me too. It certainly looks like Kofunye. And the fighters look very much like our cousins,Betonlar...
Amazing... :)



Only one in Kofunye. Diger ikisi Erenkoyde idiler. The two elder brothers are no longer with us. RIP/ARE.
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