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Postby Cheshire Cat » Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:45 pm

I don't know about anyone else but I thought this was light hearted !

And you can be a decent kind person without going to church every 10 minuites. I think the point that was being made is that they have a reputation of not taking apolite No thank you for an answer.

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Postby Niki » Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:08 pm

Stout wrote:We, who are of little or no faith (I include myself among them), have just celebrated the festive season, many, (like myself), have passed the time indulging our own hedonistic pleasures totally oblivious to the suffering of those less fortunate than we.
To those who spread what they deem to be "The Message" or "The Good News", we hedonists must fill them with disgust, we should all realize that fact and at least try to present ourselves worthy of our own opinions.
By treating them with such ignorance (actually boasting about it), are we not displaying the fact that they are actually superior to us ?, after all, as far as they are concerned , they are offering us a priceless gift, should we not have the good manners to decline their offer without resorting to base insults ?.


....so..... not quite so unbiased then? Major contradictions all in one post.

HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE and may we all take absolutely no notice of these 'troublemakers', even if they do look like friendly gorillas. :D
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Postby Acorn » Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:14 pm

Should we not have the good manners to decline their offer without resorting to base insults.

We should... and that should be the end of it.

I have a very good Tunisian Muslim friend, we agree to disagree on our beliefs but we never insult each other.
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Postby Stout » Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:15 pm

Cheshire Cat wrote:I don't know about anyone else but I thought this was light hearted !

And you can be a decent kind person without going to church every 10 minuites. I think the point that was being made is that they have a reputation of not taking apolite No thank you for an answer.

Happy new year to you too !


One person insulting the integrity of another can never be light hearted.
Without the basic tenets of religion (of whatever denomination) it is not possible to be a decent kind person, regardless off the fact that we may or may not attend any sort of holy service.
Decency and kindness are the foundation of all of them. ( unless of course we ARE Devil worshippers).
The enthusiasm of those that spread the word of their beliefs, denies them the ability to be less persistent, they are quite unable to grasp the fact that we are not prepared to listen, or as they see it, accept the gift they are offering us all. :)
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Postby Niki » Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:21 pm

Stout wrote:
Cheshire Cat wrote:I don't know about anyone else but I thought this was light hearted !

And you can be a decent kind person without going to church every 10 minuites. I think the point that was being made is that they have a reputation of not taking apolite No thank you for an answer.

Happy new year to you too !


One person insulting the integrity of another can never be light hearted.
Without the basic tenets of religion (of whatever denomination) it is not possible to be a decent kind person, regardless off the fact that we may or may not attend any sort of holy service.
Decency and kindness are the foundation of all of them. ( unless of course we ARE Devil worshippers).
The enthusiasm of those that spread the word of their beliefs, denies them the ability to be less persistent, they are quite unable to grasp the fact that we are not prepared to listen, or as they see it, accept the gift they are offering us all. :)


Your cover is slipping! You went too far Stout for me to believe you are an unbiased participant. People are not that stupid. Let me guess....you are....? :lol:
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Postby Acorn » Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:22 pm

Without the basic tenets of religion (of whatever denomination) it is not possible to be a decent kind person, regardless off the fact that we may or may not attend any sort of holy service.


I will never agree with that.
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Postby Stout » Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:24 pm

Niki wrote:
Stout wrote:We, who are of little or no faith (I include myself among them), have just celebrated the festive season, many, (like myself), have passed the time indulging our own hedonistic pleasures totally oblivious to the suffering of those less fortunate than we.
To those who spread what they deem to be "The Message" or "The Good News", we hedonists must fill them with disgust, we should all realize that fact and at least try to present ourselves worthy of our own opinions.
By treating them with such ignorance (actually boasting about it), are we not displaying the fact that they are actually superior to us ?, after all, as far as they are concerned , they are offering us a priceless gift, should we not have the good manners to decline their offer without resorting to base insults ?.


....so..... not quite so unbiased then? Major contradictions all in one post.

HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE and may we all take absolutely no notice of these 'troublemakers', even if they do look like friendly gorillas. :D


Niki, I must confess that I am completely unable to grasp the point of your comments, where do I display bias ?, I have included myself among those who are without religious convictions.
I do however have respect for those that do, is that the fact that triggered your comments ?. :shock:
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Postby Acorn » Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:24 pm

Your cover is slipping! You went too far Stout for me to believe you are an unbiased participant. People are not that stupid. Let me guess....you are....?


Maybe we have found our Witness :D
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Postby Stout » Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:28 pm

Acorn wrote:
Without the basic tenets of religion (of whatever denomination) it is not possible to be a decent kind person, regardless off the fact that we may or may not attend any sort of holy service.


I will never agree with that.


Are you able to demonstrate the possibility of being kind and decent without adhering to the basic tenets of scripture ?, if so, please let us know how, THAT would certainly be a first !. :lol:
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Postby Niki » Fri Jan 04, 2008 8:33 pm

Stout wrote:
Niki wrote:
Stout wrote:We, who are of little or no faith (I include myself among them), have just celebrated the festive season, many, (like myself), have passed the time indulging our own hedonistic pleasures totally oblivious to the suffering of those less fortunate than we.
To those who spread what they deem to be "The Message" or "The Good News", we hedonists must fill them with disgust, we should all realize that fact and at least try to present ourselves worthy of our own opinions.
By treating them with such ignorance (actually boasting about it), are we not displaying the fact that they are actually superior to us ?, after all, as far as they are concerned , they are offering us a priceless gift, should we not have the good manners to decline their offer without resorting to base insults ?.


....so..... not quite so unbiased then? Major contradictions all in one post.

HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE and may we all take absolutely no notice of these 'troublemakers', even if they do look like friendly gorillas. :D


Niki, I must confess that I am completely unable to grasp the point of your comments, where do I display bias ?, I have included myself among those who are without religious convictions.
I do however have respect for those that do, is that the fact that triggered your comments ?. :shock:


You protest your own 'hedonistic, no faith, oblivious to the suffering of others' ...etc attitude far too easily for this to be real. Real hedonists do not repent so easily or in such a detailed manner. I count myself among these hedonists and will therefore pass on the 'priceless gift' I am being offered - thanks ever so! :lol:
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