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EuroNews interview : Northern Cyprus Leader M A Talat

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Postby zan » Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:42 pm

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RebelWithoutAPause wrote:Honestly though - I would like any level headed Turkish Cypriot to watch this interview and tell me the deadlock is because of the 'Greek side' lol.

Just goes to show how sincere Turkish Cypriots are about the whole 'embargoed' thing.


The deadlock is because of the Akritas plan in which you guys got yourselves recognised as the government on a hasty decision by the UN...You started killing us and called it inter-communal conflict so that the UN had no choice but to come in and they could only do that if they recognised you as the government. You made sure that we were not in government before all that action was taken. Makarios swore that he would always follow the path of ENOSIS no matter what when he took his position as head of the church of Cyprus.Because of this and the fact that your present leader is the author of the Akritas Plan, you cannot let go of that or the ENOSIS dream. You refuse to let us back into our rightful place in government of Cyprus and dream up excuse after excuse as to why that should not be. Your persistence in this will see the island split in two with present borders in place and that is a simple fact. Your leader of the illegal "RoC" has said so in his New Years speech in that he will not let go of the Akritas Plan nor ENOSIS or the HEllenic Megali dream. Letting go will mean that those dreams will not be achieved and he cannot let go anyway because he is sworn to them. Our fears of this has always been justified by he actions of the GC leaders and their so called government.


Hey Zanman it sounds like you needle has got stuck, why don't you play another tune, or better still stick your needle where the sun does not shine. You are so boring - repeating the same predictable hate posts time after time - get a life!


When that piece of history is put right and you get it into your thick head then I will stop.....Any chance of that happening???? Fact is fact and just because you don't like to hear it does me no harm at all......Go elswhere and multiply if you really are bored....
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Postby RebelWithoutAPause » Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:51 pm

The deadlock is because of the Akritas plan in which you guys got yourselves recognised as the government on a hasty decision by the UN...You started killing us and called it inter-communal conflict so that the UN had no choice but to come in and they could only do that if they recognised you as the government. You made sure that we were not in government before all that action was taken. Makarios swore that he would always follow the path of ENOSIS no matter what when he took his position as head of the church of Cyprus.Because of this and the fact that your present leader is the author of the Akritas Plan, you cannot let go of that or the ENOSIS dream. You refuse to let us back into our rightful place in government of Cyprus and dream up excuse after excuse as to why that should not be. Your persistence in this will see the island split in two with present borders in place and that is a simple fact. Your leader of the illegal "RoC" has said so in his New Years speech in that he will not let go of the Akritas Plan nor ENOSIS or the HEllenic Megali dream. Letting go will mean that those dreams will not be achieved and he cannot let go anyway because he is sworn to them. Our fears of this has always been justified by he actions of the GC leaders and their so called government.


hahaha Dont you get bored you sad loser!? You come out with the same old crap all the time and expect to be taken seriously!? Zan did you really just type this again or do you have the same paragraph stored on a Word file ready to cut and paste? :lol:

When that piece of history is put right and you get it into your thick head then I will stop.....Any chance of that happening???? Fact is fact and just because you don't like to hear it does me no harm at all......Go elswhere and multiply if you really are bored....


Zan...go see a therapist, really.
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Postby zan » Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:54 pm

RebelWithoutAPause wrote:
The deadlock is because of the Akritas plan in which you guys got yourselves recognised as the government on a hasty decision by the UN...You started killing us and called it inter-communal conflict so that the UN had no choice but to come in and they could only do that if they recognised you as the government. You made sure that we were not in government before all that action was taken. Makarios swore that he would always follow the path of ENOSIS no matter what when he took his position as head of the church of Cyprus.Because of this and the fact that your present leader is the author of the Akritas Plan, you cannot let go of that or the ENOSIS dream. You refuse to let us back into our rightful place in government of Cyprus and dream up excuse after excuse as to why that should not be. Your persistence in this will see the island split in two with present borders in place and that is a simple fact. Your leader of the illegal "RoC" has said so in his New Years speech in that he will not let go of the Akritas Plan nor ENOSIS or the HEllenic Megali dream. Letting go will mean that those dreams will not be achieved and he cannot let go anyway because he is sworn to them. Our fears of this has always been justified by he actions of the GC leaders and their so called government.


hahaha Dont you get bored you sad loser!? You come out with the same old crap all the time and expect to be taken seriously!? Zan did you really just type this again or do you have the same paragraph stored on a Word file ready to cut and paste? :lol:

When that piece of history is put right and you get it into your thick head then I will stop.....Any chance of that happening???? Fact is fact and just because you don't like to hear it does me no harm at all......Go elswhere and multiply if you really are bored....


Zan...go see a therapist, really.


Again no substance to anything you say...I have clearly made a statement and all you do is press the two letters that make sense to you...My findings are correct...This is two threads on which you say nothing ...What the hell are you doing here....Lets see some of your findings.....Do you know how to counter anything..........I didn't think so. :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby RebelWithoutAPause » Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:57 pm

Again no substance to anything you say...I have clearly made a statement and all you do is press the two letters that make sense to you...My findings are correct...This is two threads on which you say nothing ...What the hell are you doing here....Lets see some of your findings.....Do you know how to counter anything..........I didn't think so.


Your findings are 'correct'?? How do you know this Zan?? lol

See you ARE lonely and crazy arent you.
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Postby zan » Thu Jan 03, 2008 9:01 pm

RebelWithoutAPause wrote:
Again no substance to anything you say...I have clearly made a statement and all you do is press the two letters that make sense to you...My findings are correct...This is two threads on which you say nothing ...What the hell are you doing here....Lets see some of your findings.....Do you know how to counter anything..........I didn't think so.


Your findings are 'correct'?? How do you know this Zan?? lol

See you ARE lonely and crazy arent you.


I read and TOOK IN what I read and asked questions of important people. The facts are staring you in the face but you do not see them and you blame me for it...You are lazy and that is what the weed will do to you but I have done all the had work but your propaganda filled head will not accept the facts although there is plenty of room in that almost empty shell you call a head.....Now give me your findings so we can compare notes........
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Postby paaul12 » Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:11 am

Greek Cypriots will have to decide in 2008 what they want on the island

The ball is in the court of the Greek Cypriots and after they elect their new president in mid-February they have to do some soul searching and decide what they want for the future of the island. Even Greek Cypriot analysts agree that they only have two options: They will either accept to share power with the Turkish Cypriots and allow the reunification of the island or they will have to agree to the creation of two separate states on the eastern Mediterranean island.

Cyprus Mail says three and a half years ago when the Greek Cypriots entered the European Union Greek Cypriot President Tassos Papadopoulos believed that membership would enable them to turn the screw on Turkey. But the paper says this has proved monumentally misguided as it has seen its partners consistently siding with Ankara whenever it had tried to do so.

The unsolved Cyprus problem is considered a major nuisance by the European Commission, which is quite clearly fed up of the Greek Cypriot obstructive tactics in the Union’s dealings with Turkey.

This was why the Swedish government called a meeting of interested parties in New York last September, the German parliament issued a strong-worded resolution and Britain signed a deal with Turkey, committing itself to upgrade its contacts with the Turkish Cypriots. The message was clear if the Greek Cypriot problem is not solved, the EU will find ways to minimize the disruptions caused to its dealings with Turkey. :D :D

Cyprus Mail said this was also a way of reminding the Greek Cypriot political establishment of the need for a solution. It has repeatedly been said that there would be one last attempt in 2008, after the presidential elections, to find a settlement and if it fails the status quo would be the solution. :D :D

Greek Cypriots analysts say unfortunately, the presidential candidates have been reluctant to take these warnings seriously, preferring to deal with the no-cost politics of wishful thinking – promising the ideal solutions and telling the Greek Cypriots what they will never accept. Cyprus Mail says the main message of Papadopoulos’ campaign, in fact, is that he is the man best able to resist the foreigners’ effort to impose an unfair settlement. :lol: :lol:

Greek Cypriots analysts say neither he nor his campaign spokesmen inform the people what would happen once he has successfully resisted the efforts for a settlement. Observers say the other presidential candidates seem more willing to debate what should happen, but also embrace, to some extent, the negative approach, Papadopoulos has imposed on political debate.

Cyprus Mail says the decision of maverick politician Dr. Marios Matsakis to stand in the elections has shaken up things, by exposing the dishonesty of the election debate – if he failed to secure the desired settlement, he would pursue a two-state solution, he said. None of the other candidates have dared to discuss the possibility of failure, even though they have no problem repeating what they would never accept as a solution.

Cyprus Mail says the February’s elections should have been an opportunity for Greek Cypriot politicians to speak honestly to the people about the two options that they have. The paper says "We either try to find some way of reuniting the island, accepting that any agreement would be far from ideal (it will invariably be worse than the Annan plan), or the two sides agree to go their separate ways. There is no third option, as Matsakis quite rightly pointed
out."

The newspaper says "hopefully, 2008 will prove the year that Greek Cypriots finally decide what they really want for the country and work to achieve it." It also warns "if again, we choose the negative approach – focusing only on what we do not want – the decision will be taken for us in 2008, by our EU partners, even if we elect a president, theoretically, capable of resisting their designs."

Meanwhile, some optimistic observers say the arrival of the euro may help a solution on the island. They say the European currency may actally be a peace maker between the Turkish Cypriots and the Greeeks.

The island's arrival in the eurozone on Jan.1 is being heralded as more than just a milestone amid predictions that it will pull off what countless mediators have failed to achieve so far, and help to reunify Greek and Turkish Cypriots.

"It is golden opportunity for both communities to overcome one of their major disparities," said Ali Erel, who heads the European Union Association in the island's Turkish-run north told British daily Guardian. "The transition will push us to cooperate more and that, ultimately, could lead to economic reintegration," he said.

Although EU laws and regulations are not applied in the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, where enthusiasm for Europe has also waned considerably, the euro is being used increasingly by the territory as it tries to shake off its pariah status.

Observers say northern Cyprus's booming property market is linked almost exclusively to the currency.

Source: http://www.thenewanatolian.com/tna-30445.html
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Postby Kikapu » Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:45 am

I think sub-titles in English would have made all the difference to understand the interviewer and the interviewee.. :lol: :lol:

I thought I was watching Arnold Schwarzenegger interviewing George W. Bush. :lol: :lol:

I would like to know if anyone watching this report on the TV, understood anything from this reporting at all even though there were some good questions asked of the Leader of the Turkish Cypriots. One question in particular was

Q .."can the GC refugees go back to their homes"

A.."well, it depends what you mean by refugees. I mean, it has been 30 years so they are no longer refugees. They do have places to stay now. OK, they are dislocated".

Do you really think so, Mr.Talat.!!!!

Good thing I'm a good lip reader, or else I would have missed all the important stuff in this interview. :wink: :wink:
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Postby kafenes » Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:05 am

Gav, thanks for the link, but shouldn't this be in the jokes section?

ine telia talatouris. :)
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Postby Eric dayi » Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:26 am

All I see in this forum is a load of (GC) bad losers who still whine and whinge and make themselves the laughing stock of the EU and the rest of the world.

Hey, it's over, the island is for ever partitioned and will never be united again and you have Makarios, TPapadope, Grivas, EOKA and all the other GC murderers to thank for your situation.

Grow up, get over it and live the rest of your lives in the wonderful peace Turkey provided since 1974 and stop being so miserable.

Hey Kick-a-poo, do a belly dance for the GCs and put a smile on their faces for Gods sake or do you like seeing them so miserable?
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Postby Eric dayi » Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:29 am

Kikapu wrote:I think sub-titles in English would have made all the difference to understand the interviewer and the interviewee.. :lol: :lol:

I thought I was watching Arnold Schwarzenegger interviewing George W. Bush. :lol: :lol:

I would like to know if anyone watching this report on the TV, understood anything from this reporting at all even though there were some good questions asked of the Leader of the Turkish Cypriots. One question in particular was

Q .."can the GC refugees go back to their homes"

A.."well, it depends what you mean by refugees. I mean, it has been 30 years so they are no longer refugees. They do have places to stay now. OK, they are dislocated".

Do you really think so, Mr.Talat.!!!!

Good thing I'm a good lip reader, or else I would have missed all the important stuff in this interview. :wink: :wink:


Good thing you are such a good clown too, who would we otherwise have to keep us all, GCs and TCs, amused.

I bet you look good in your belly dancing gear and red nose. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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