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[utu]

Eric,

Turkish airfields lay in easy strike range of Cyprus, plus the Turkish navy dominates those waters. Given these facts, a large military presence does not really seem all that necessary. 20,000 would be more than enough of a deterrent force, plus it would make the northern part of Cyprus less like a military-occupied zone. The ratio of military personnel to the civilian population is something like 1:5.

[Piratis]

Cyprus: The complete history from 1960 to 1974 (1)

The complete history didn't start in 1960 and didn't end in 1974.

I will not bother reading the writings of a fool I totally rediculed here:

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=15049

That guy went so far in his propaganda crap that he pulls out of his arse that last time he told us that Asylum seekers where registered voters in Cyprus. Only an idiot would believe even a word from what this Atan Scatun (or something like that) writes.

[Piratis]

Eric,

Turkish airfields lay in easy strike range of Cyprus, plus the Turkish navy dominates those waters. Given these facts, a large military presence does not really seem all that necessary. 20,000 would be more than enough of a deterrent force, plus it would make the northern part of Cyprus less like a military-occupied zone. The ratio of military personnel to the civilian population is something like 1:5.

And what would change by reducing them from 40.000 to 20.000? Illegal occupation is illegal occupation regardless of the amount of troops that enforce it.

[utu]

And what would change by reducing them from 40.000 to 20.000? Illegal occupation is illegal occupation regardless of the amount of troops that enforce it.

That would depend upon one's definition of 'illegal', doesn't it? Turkey maintains legality based on the Treaty of Guarantee, though their failure to depart after the collapse of the Sampson coup IMHO nullfies that justification.

Anyway, I'm pointing out to Eric that the Turkish military presence - particularly its numbers - is doing more harm than good to his cause. Turkey's military reach from its own borders - and its control of the sea through its navy - is enough of a hand at the throat of the island.

[Eric dayi]

Eric,

Turkish airfields lay in easy strike range of Cyprus, plus the Turkish navy dominates those waters. Given these facts, a large military presence does not really seem all that necessary. 20,000 would be more than enough of a deterrent force, plus it would make the northern part of Cyprus less like a military-occupied zone. The ratio of military personnel to the civilian population is something like 1:5.

First of all utu, the TRNC is not an "military-occupied zone", that is what the GCs want you to believe. The Turkish army is there to protect us TCs in case the GCs decide to repeat their genocide attempt of 1963 and 1974.

Secondly, the GCs didn't and do not accept any number of Turkish troops to be present in the TRNC. If you remember the AP, they didn't agree to even 650 Turkish troops to stay in Cyprus.

Further more, Turkish troops will have to be on alarm situation and always on the ready in case the GCs decide to have another go at genociding us TCs. I am pretty certain you know yourself how much work and planning goes into an operation as the peace operation of 1974. Also if they leave, will the international community allow Turkey to come to our aid like it did in 1974

The presence of 40,000 Turkish troops has managed to keep the peace in Cyprus for 44 years and I and many other TCs have no wish to tell them to go home. In fact, we are very grateful of their presence and may they stay there for a very, very long time. It's the only way to guarantee our (TCs) safety from the Turk and TC hating and ENOSIS seeking Greek Cypriots.

[Piratis]

Eric Dayi, the ones who have committed genocide against others are non else than the Turks. You accusing Cypriots for genocide is funny.

The Turks killed 1.5 million Armenians and still you deny that this was a genocide.

In Cyprus the biggest slaughtering in history happened again by the Turks in 1570 when within days they killed 20.000 people in Nicosia alone. That was more than 10% of the population of Cyprus killed within days, and therefore could be defined as genocide.

Since then the next biggest slaughtering in Cyprus happened in 1974 when the Turks, again, killed several 1000s of Cypriots and ethnically cleansed 100s of thousands.

Now you tell me when TCs where "genocided"? In your dream?

TCs in total lost a few 100s people, in a period when they also killed a few 100s of GCs. You call that a "genocide"?

Do you think anybody buys your lies and gross exaggerations?

[Eric dayi]

Eric Dayi, the ones who have committed genocide against others are non else than the Turks. You accusing Cypriots for genocide is funny.

No, I am not accusing Cypriots of attempting to genocide us TCs, I am accusing you Greek Cypriots of attempting to genocide us Turkish Cypriots for nothing but ENOSIS.

The Turks killed 1.5 million Armenians and still you deny that this was a genocide.



In Cyprus the biggest slaughtering in history happened again by the Turks in 1570 when within days they killed 20.000 people in Nicosia alone. That was more than 10% of the population of Cyprus killed within days, and therefore could be defined as genocide.

Shut up you git, when it suits you the Ottoman were Ottoman but when it suits your needs otherwise you say the Ottoman are Turks and blame everything what happened in the Ottoman era on Turks/Turkey. You are one of the idiots in this forum who contradicts and makes an idiot of himself without even realising what you are doing but then again when does an idiot like you know what he is doing or saying?

Since then the next biggest slaughtering in Cyprus happened in 1974 when the Turks, again, killed several 1000s of Cypriots and ethnically cleansed 100s of thousands.

You got your arses kicked for trying to genocide us TCs. You tried but Turkey stopped you GCs and Greeks. If Turkey had not sent in the peace froces there would definitely be any TCs left in Cyprus today, just like in Crete.

Now you tell me when TCs where "genocided"? In your dream?

TCs in total lost a few 100s people, in a period when they also killed a few 100s of GCs. You call that a "genocide"?

Like I keep telling you and one day you will also realise what an idiot you are. Even if I explained it to you your worthless two cell brain will never be able to understand it so I will waste my time on an idiot like you. If you want to find the answer to your stupid question bozo, read everything I wrote in this forum and see if you can find it.

Do you think anybody buys your lies and gross exaggerations?

Did you GCs/Greeks get your ENOSIS or become the sole rulers of the whole of Cyprus with us TCs being a second class minority?

Have you bozo?

No? DOOOOOOOOOOH!



Now ask me the same question again.

[Piratis]

Just as I though. You have no arguments, you get upset and show how uncivilized you are. Is this level of civility typical for a Turk Eric Dayi? This question goes for those other TCs in this forum who seem to agree with you.

So the conclusion is that it is the Turks who have actually been committing the genocides, Greek Cypriots never did. You just imagine that GCs would do this and that, but your imagination and oracle predictions do not count my friend. What counts are the actual genocides you have committed against us and against others.

[zan]

Just as I though. You have no arguments, you get upset and show how uncivilized you are. Is this level of civility typical for a Turk Eric Dayi? This question goes for those other TCs in this forum who seem to agree with you.

So the conclusion is that it is the Turks who have actually been committing the genocides, Greek Cypriots never did. You just imagine that GCs would do this and that, but your imagination and oracle predictions do not count my friend. What counts are the actual genocides you have committed against us and against others.

Hey! You have Birkibrisli on your side with this one so you think you can get cocky with it......

[Eric dayi]

Just as I though. You have no arguments, you get upset and show how uncivilized you are. Is this level of civility typical for a Turk Eric Dayi? This question goes for those other TCs in this forum who seem to agree with you.

Don't talk to me about being civilized you moron, we saw and felt how civilized you GCs and Greeks were against us TCs all the way from 1950's to 1974.

I gave you my arguments in my reply but you are too stupid to see it and too stupid to reply. Go back and read it again you bozo and come back with something meaningful and not the garbage you replied with in this posting of yours. Or is this your way of telling us that you have no more lies to tell and give up?

So the conclusion is that it is the Turks who have actually been committing the genocides, Greek Cypriots never did.

That is your conclusion pal and we all know that you are lying..

Greek Cypriots and Greeks tried to genocide us TCs to have their (your) ENOSIS, you have already admitted to your wrong doings in many other threads and now you are trying to backtrack. Not a very clever little liar, are you?

You just imagine that GCs would do this and that, but your imagination and oracle predictions do not count my friend. What counts are the actual genocides you have committed against us and against others.

"imagine"? MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA....tell me dumbo, did you or did you not want ENOSIS and did you GCs together with the Greeks started to kill us TCs for your ENOSIS dream?

Do you or do not still keep complaining, whinging, whining and crying buckets full that we TCs didn't want ENOSIS and that why you turned on us to try and force us to accept your ENOSIS or kill us all if we do not agree, hmmm?

Come on you lying moron, I am waiting for your answers or are you going to do a runner like others before you...hmmmmm?