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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:03 pm

Nikitas wrote:"Although their homeland had been dominated by foreigners for many centuries, it was only after the imposition of Ottoman rule that Orthodox Christians began to develop a really strong sense of cohesiveness. "

Deniz, I do not know who wrote the above, but whoever it was they are forgetting the Byzantine Empire which lasted one thousand years and was effectively a Greek Empire. It was during this time that the church of Cyprus was declared Autocephalus, that is independent and acted as the main force of cohesion for the local population. Just look around Cyprus and the dates when churches were built. That should act as a pointer, it takes a lot of cohesion for communities to band together to build a church in the 4th century and later.

Analysing Greek and Cypriot history without reference to the Byzantine Empire is a non starter for anyone who wants to gain understanding of these two places and their people.



Nikitas, I am very aware of the Byzantine culture in Cyprus. Nevertheless, the Latin church held sway over the Orthodox church (according to European historians) which was supressed. It was a miracle that the Orthodox church did survive.

We are talkig about the 14th/16th Centuries here, not the 4th Century.

I do not deny the Byzantine culture in Cyprus and any who do are idiots or blind.
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Postby Nikitas » Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:08 pm

Considerin that the Byzantine period lasted from the fall of Rome till the Crusades, about a thousand years, the two centuries of the Catholic period could not uproot the Orthodox denomination, assuming that there was such intention.

Looking at the evidence, in terms of churches etc, it seems that the Roman Catholic overlords had their own churches and left the Cypriots alone to build and worship in their own. I mentioned the 4th century because the oldest standing church in Cyprus dates from then. There are surviving churches built during the Venetian period so the Orthodox could not have been so badly repressed.

It is interesting to compare the situation in Cyprus during the Frankish period with that in Greece. The Orthodox there too were ruled but never religiously persecuted by the Franks and Venetians who occupied the country. The only areas where Roman Catholicism took root are the islands of Syros and Tinos where there are Greek people of the Catholic faith to this day. Oddly enough, the Ionian islands which were under Venetian rule and never under Ottoman rule have no Catholics.

It is easy to portray the Franks and Venetians as ruthless and repressive towards the Greeks. But all through this period, and up to the eve of the Ottoman takeover of Constantinople there were intense diplomatic relations between the Byzantines and the Roman Catholic church and negotiations for help against the Ottomans. After the fall Venice became a major focal point for Greek culture with most books in Greek being published there.

An interesting fact fromt his period. Vincenzo Cornaro, the poet who wrote the epic poem Erotocritos was a Venetian lord in Crete. The poem is in Cretan dialect. When Vincenzo was invited to present his work in Venice, his brother had to accompany him as interpreter because Vincenzo himself could not speak Italian. This is hardly evidence or repression of the local population, it speaks more of assimilation of the lords into the local culture.
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:36 pm

Nikitas wrote:Considerin that the Byzantine period lasted from the fall of Rome till the Crusades, about a thousand years, the two centuries of the Catholic period could not uproot the Orthodox denomination, assuming that there was such intention.

Looking at the evidence, in terms of churches etc, it seems that the Roman Catholic overlords had their own churches and left the Cypriots alone to build and worship in their own. I mentioned the 4th century because the oldest standing church in Cyprus dates from then. There are surviving churches built during the Venetian period so the Orthodox could not have been so badly repressed.

It is interesting to compare the situation in Cyprus during the Frankish period with that in Greece. The Orthodox there too were ruled but never religiously persecuted by the Franks and Venetians who occupied the country. The only areas where Roman Catholicism took root are the islands of Syros and Tinos where there are Greek people of the Catholic faith to this day. Oddly enough, the Ionian islands which were under Venetian rule and never under Ottoman rule have no Catholics.

It is easy to portray the Franks and Venetians as ruthless and repressive towards the Greeks. But all through this period, and up to the eve of the Ottoman takeover of Constantinople there were intense diplomatic relations between the Byzantines and the Roman Catholic church and negotiations for help against the Ottomans. After the fall Venice became a major focal point for Greek culture with most books in Greek being published there.

An interesting fact fromt his period. Vincenzo Cornaro, the poet who wrote the epic poem Erotocritos was a Venetian lord in Crete. The poem is in Cretan dialect. When Vincenzo was invited to present his work in Venice, his brother had to accompany him as interpreter because Vincenzo himself could not speak Italian. This is hardly evidence or repression of the local population, it speaks more of assimilation of the lords into the local culture.



Thanks for the 'revision' on the history of Cyprus. Its like being in secondary school again. Was the poet any relation to the once queen of Cyprus Caterina Cornaro? or is it just a coincidence. These Italian families sure spread their seeds around.

I hope you are not insinuating that I am spreading Turkish propaganda as the sources are European and published on this forum previously. So where there is no smoke there is no fire. These statements must have been stated for some reasons. Common sense does say that the authorities'rule would not have necessarily reached to all corners of the island.

The Catholics also had problems with their predecessors the Protestants (Lusignan remnants). I recal studying their rioting in Famagusta and Nicosia. I must find time and re-read my History of Cyprus by Hill. I scanned through that period, but did not absorb much. So little time for so much.

Yet we must not forget that us TCs are also part of Cyprus history, and will be for a long time.

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Postby Eric dayi » Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:44 pm

utu wrote:Eric,

Can you answer this: Do you think that the number of Turkish military personel in the North of Cyprus is beneficial, or detrimental to the problem? 40,000 really seems like an excessively high number, given the proximity of Turkey to Cyprus, and the relatively low number of Greek and Greek Cypriot forces south of the Green Line...


Utu, zan answered your question very accurately I believe but let me add this.

With all the armaments the GCs have been and are still buying how much damage do you think the GCs and Greeks can do and how many TCs can they massacre before Turkey can reach Cyprus utu?

The only thing that's stopping the GCs and Greeks from completing their genocide attempt is the 40,000 strong Turkish Army. So yes utu, I do think/bvelieve that 40,00 Turkish soldiers are very beneficial and detrimental for the survival of the TCs.

Don't forget utu, even with 40,000 Turkish soldiers in the TRNC, the GCs outnumber us by something like 4-1.

It is these 40,000 Turkish soldiers who have kept the peace in Cyprus since 1974 utu, not UN.
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Postby Nikitas » Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:48 pm

Deniz,

TCs definitely are a part of Cyprus. If one of the two communities did not exist the other would have to invent it. Without each other there would be no excuse for independence. Many people forget that and as Gerald Durrel (the animal man brother of Lawrence who wrote Bitter Lemons) said: there is a lot to being small and independent.

Ekaterini Cornaro was related to the Crete Cornaros but I cannot recall if she was a sister or other relation. I will have to look it up too. Problem with the feudal period is the number of family dynasties involved. At least with the major empires there was only one at a time!

I am not a historian, my interst started when I was given a section of the Justinian Codes to translate into English by some doctor friends. It was the part that dealt with quacks impesonating doctors in Cyprus during that time. The punishment was for the quack to wear a pisspot around his neck, bang it as he walked from village to village describing his crime in loud voice. Having met some present day quacks the penalty sounds very interesting!
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Postby utu » Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:43 am

Somehow, I don't think this story is going to end with "and they lived hapilly ever after" anytime soon...
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Postby denizaksulu » Sat Jan 05, 2008 12:55 am

utu wrote:Somehow, I don't think this story is going to end with "and they lived hapilly ever after" anytime soon...



Right you are. Maybe as neighbours, no? :lol:
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Postby bilako22 » Sun Jan 06, 2008 11:22 am

Come on guys , explain to me why the Greeks are so stupid that they do not do the one obvious thing that will cause the Turkish army to withdraw the majority of their soldiers?
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Postby halil » Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:01 pm

Cyprus: The complete history from 1960 to 1974 (1)


Cyprus gained her sovereign independence by virtue of a constitution and three treaties -- the Treaty of Guarantee, the Treaty of Alliance and the Treaty of Establishment, all of which came into force on the same day -- Aug. 16, 1960. They were interrelated so that, for example, the 48 “basic articles” of the Constitution were incorporated into the Treaty of Guarantee while the two Treaties of Guarantee and Alliance were in turn mentioned to “have constitutional force” in Article 181 of the constitution. The third treaty, the Treaty of Establishment, makes it clear that the boundaries of the Republic of Cyprus do not coincide with those of the island, in that Britain retains absolute sovereignty over two enclaves, totaling 99 square miles which contain the military bases of Ağrotur (Akrotiri) and Dikelya (Dhekelia). Britain is also given certain military rights (such as exclusive control of the Nicosia airport in the event of an emergency) on the territory of the republic. The constitution was drawn up explicitly in terms of the two people -- and was referred to subsequently by the Turkish Cypriots as a functional federation, though that expression does not actually appear. The official languages were Greek and Turkish. The Greek and Turkish flags could be flown without any restrictions, though there was also to be a national flag. The Greek and Turkish national holidays were to be observed. The country was defined as “an independent and sovereign republic with a presidential regime, the president being Greek and the vice president being Turkish elected by the Greek and Turkish communities of Cyprus respectively.” There were 10 ministers, seven chosen by the president and three by the vice president (in practice a Turkish Cypriot was appointed to defense). Decisions in the Council of Ministers were to be taken by absolute majority, except that either the president or the vice president had an absolute veto over decisions relating to foreign affairs, defense or internal security and a delaying one on other matters.
The legislative system was unicameral. The House of Representatives had 50 members: 35 Greek and 15 Turkish. This ratio was unilaterally changed to 56 Greek and 24 Turkish by Greek Cypriots without the consent of Turkish Cypriots during the “Dark Era,” namely between the years 1963-1974. According to Article 78(2), “any law imposing duties or taxes shall require a simple majority of the representatives elected by the Greek and Turkish communities respectively taking part in the vote.” This provision also applied to any change in the electoral law and the adoption of any law relating to the municipalities. This last question baffled the constitution makers. In five of the towns, separate Greek and Turkish municipalities had emerged as a consequence of the communal confrontations of 1958 and had been recognized by the British. They would now be officially established, thereby becoming the only organ of the constitution based on the idea of territorial separation, but for only four years during which the president and the vice president were supposed to decide between them whether they were to continue.
Legislation on other subjects was to take place by simple majority but again the president and the vice president had the same right of veto -- absolute on foreign affairs, defense and internal security, delaying on other matters -- as in the Council of Ministers. Outside the House of Representatives there were to be elected two communal chambers, one Greek, the other Turkish, which were given separate functions not entrusted to the House. These included education, religious matters, personal status, sport, culture, producer and consumer cooperatives and credit establishments. For these purposes they were entitled to impose taxes, set up courts and conduct their own relations with the Greek and Turkish governments over help with funds or with personnel. The judicial system was headed both by the Supreme Constitutional Court and by the High Court of Justice, each consisting of Greek and Turkish Cypriot judges, each with a neutral president (who should not be Cypriot, Greek, Turkish or British). The High Court had mainly appellate jurisdiction but could also deal with “offences against the constitution and the constitutional order.” The Supreme Constitutional Court had exclusive jurisdiction over the allocation of functions and powers between the various institutions. Either president or vice president might appeal to this court whenever he thought that a law including, specifically, the budget, would have the effect of discriminating against one of the communities. Moreover human rights were strongly protected. A long series of guarantees against discrimination and in support of fundamental rights and liberties (Articles 6 to 35) were closely based on the appropriate European conventions. Finally, the constitution recognized the bi-communal nature of Cyprus in its arrangements for administration. The public service should approximate in all grades of its hierarchy to a 70:30 ratio. The Public Service Commission was to consist of 10 members, seven of them Greek, but a number of decisions were made dependent on the approval of at least two of the Turkish members.
There was to be a Cypriot army, 2,000 strong, of which 1,200 should be Greeks and 800 Turks, together with security forces, comprising police and gendarmerie, also totaling 2,000, but this time with 1,400 Greeks to 600 Turks; forces stationed in parts of the republic inhabited almost totally by one community should have policemen drawn entirely from that community.
Cyprus: The complete history from 1960 to 1974 (2)


A first reaction to this document must be that for a nation of 556,000, this was a very elaborate and very rigid constitution. It runs to 199 articles and of these the 48 “basic” ones were to remain unalterable in perpetuity.
The remainder could in practice only be altered by mutual agreement of the two communities. Drafted with the help of a Swiss constitutional adviser, the constitution was of the consociational variety which gives the preservation of the ethnic balance higher priority than majority rule.
Moreover the constitution, thus heavily freighted, was screwed into the international system by the accompanying treaties. Under the Treaty of Guarantee with Britain, Greece and Turkey, the Republic of Cyprus undertakes to uphold its own independence and its own constitution; not to participate in any political or economic union with any state whatsoever; and to prohibit any domestic action likely to promote union with another state or partition. In return Britain, Greece and Turkey recognize and guarantee not only the independence, integrity and security of Cyprus but also “the state of affairs established by the Basic Articles of its Constitution.” They also will ban activity favoring “Enosis or Taksim” (union or division). In the event of a breach of the provisions of the treaty, the three guarantors “will consult together” about “measures necessary to ensure observance.” Then follows the most critical wording of the treaty, currently cited to support the Turkish position. If, says, Article IV, concerted action should not be possible, “each of the three guaranteeing powers reserves the right to take action with the sole aim of re-establishing the state of affairs created by this present Treaty.”
The Treaty of Alliance, which was between Cyprus, Greece and Turkey, thus not including Britain, was intended to reinforce the rationale of the whole series of arrangements: that Greco-Turkish friendship was in the last resort worth more than the strict arithmetic and practical convenience of Cypriot politics. A committee of the three foreign ministers was “the supreme political body” of the alliance. Under its authority there should be a tripartite headquarters established on the island, with military contingents of 950 Greeks and 650 Turks to provide for the defense of the new republic and to train the new Cypriot army
The extent to which this complex of arrangements, redolent of old-fashioned diplomacy, was legally valid in the light of the United Nations Charter has been the subject of much debate among international lawyers. The question was whether a constitution so rigid and unalterable was compatible with the equal sovereignty which was recognized in the charter and whether its unchangeable nature could validly be enforced under a treaty which permitted any one of the signatories individually to take action.
It is a complex argument which has not been resolved.
Certainly Professor Ernst Forsthoff, the German who was the first president of the Supreme Constitutional Court, was to say [in 1963]: “I consider it wrong to regard Cyprus under the present agreement and constitution as an independent state.” The guarantees, he added, “include also a right of actual intervention -- there can be no guarantee without the right of intervention.” Clearly the signatories, it may be presumed, thought they were signing valid documents. Archbishop Makarios subsequently claimed that the settlement was imposed on him by force majeure and that he did not feel morally bound by it.
Archbishop Makarios was elected the first president of Cyprus by the Greek voters in December 1959 and Dr. Fazil Küçük the first vice president by the Turks. The archbishop had critics both on the right from supporters of Grivas -- who left the island for a hero’s welcome in Athens and the rank of a retired general -- and on the left because the settlement had been brought under the aegis of NATO. He moved swiftly to consolidate his position -- by appointing EOKA people to key positions, most notably Polycarpos Yorgadjis as minister of the interior, and by launching a vigorous foreign policy of friendship with the non-aligned powers which served to disarm the potential opposition of the communists in AKEL who were given five unopposed members in the first House. But the same process of satisfying the political needs of the Greek Cypriot community straightaway led to a series of conflicts with the Turks, in which the feelings of the two communities about the constitution were made plain.
The Greek Cypriots’ feeling was that the constitutional privileges accorded the Turkish community were preposterous; the Turkish Cypriots’ that these were the bare minimum, to be exercised to the last ounce.
The disputes concerned:
(a) The 70:30 ratio in the public service: The Turkish Cypriots required that the proportion should be attained within five months of independence as had in fact been stipulated in a pre-independence agreement between the president-elect and the vice president-elect.
The Greek Cypriots in the Public Service Commission argued that they could not draw from 18 percent of the population which was poorly qualified suitable candidates to fill 30 percent of the jobs overnight. After three years the Greek Cypriots published figures to show that real progress had been made in all grades towards the objective. But the subject rankled and aroused resentment in both communities. At the end of 1963 there were 2,000 appeals outstanding in the Supreme Constitutional Court about public appointments.
Cyprus’ history from 1960 to 1974 (3)


(b) Taxes: Since a majority vote of Turkish deputies in the House was needed to pass tax legislation, Turkish Cypriots sought to use this as leverage to force compliance over the 70:30 ratio, over legislation for separate municipalities and a more generous approach towards the grant of subsidies to the Turkish Communal Chamber.
As a result the colonial income tax law expired whereupon Makarios ordered that existing taxes should continue to be collected. In December 1961 the government at last came out with its own proposals, but whereas the Greeks wanted a permanent law, the Turks wanted it to be renewable annually, which would enable them to use their bargaining power each session. Since there was again deadlock, the personal income tax was abandoned by the House and the Greek Cypriots enacted it instead through the Greek Communal Chamber.
(c) The Cypriot army: The minister of defense, who was a Turkish Cypriot, proposed an army of five battalions, each composed of three companies. At the battalion level they should be mixed, but at the company level the units should be from one community or the other. The majority of the Cabinet decided that on the contrary the units should be mixed at every level. On this issue the vice president used his power of final veto. The president therefore decided not to have an army at all.
(d) Separate municipalities: Existing colonial laws had to be extended eight times while Greeks and Turks conducted a dialogue of the deaf about whether fresh legislation should establish separate municipalities as the constitution required and the Turks demanded. In December 1962 the Greek majority rejected further continuation of the status quo. The Turkish Cypriot Communal Chamber then purported to confirm the position of the Turkish municipalities while the Council of Ministers fell back on a pre-1959 colonial law to replace all the existing elected municipalities by appointed development boards. The president offered Turkish Cypriots compensation safeguards but made it quite clear that he had no intention of implementing the provisions of the constitution which he regarded as opening the way to partition.
(e) The status of the vice president: Dr. Fazil Küçük complained that since he had an absolute veto over foreign policy, he should be told what that policy was about. Spyros Kyprianou, the foreign minister, was not, he said, showing him the papers. He objected strongly to Makarios adopting on his own a policy of non-alignment and going to the Belgrade non-aligned summit without his approval.
The record of the first three years of the new republic could not therefore be described as an unqualified success. The necessary restraint on both sides if such a delicate mechanism of checks and balances is to work or, alternatively, if by informal arrangements it is to be short-circuited, was absent. Already by the end of 1961 the Turkish language press was calling for an intervention by Turkey, Greece and Britain and the resignation of Archbishop Makarios over the income tax issue.
The question of whether President Makarios ever meant the 1960 constitution to work or whether from the outset his acceptance of it was a maneuver first to obtain independence and then to clear the ground for union with Greece is still highly controversial. As an archbishop he was predisposed to see the whole island as Hellenic. In both his capacities he took part throughout the remainder of his career in what is called “verbal republicanism,” namely the celebration of anniversaries of heroic deaths during the war against the Britis with many references to his own fidelity to the cause for which they had died, specifically the cause of enosis. But to what extent and at what periods this sentiment was purely verbal it is rather difficult to say .
Certainly there are many Greek Cypriots who think that Makarios did for a time support the constitution until he concluded that, unless amended, it was unworkable. Turkish Cypriots rather naturally call attention to a confidential document called the Akritas Plan, which was later published in the Greek press. (Patris Newspaper, Feb. 7, 1967).
This, which is generally thought to have been circulated in great secrecy by Polycarpos Yorgadjis, the minister of the interior, lays down a scenario according to which the “negative elements” in the constitution should be stressed in public while lavish use should be made of such internationally acceptable concepts as “self-determination” and “minority rights” to describe the case for amending it. By this means Cyprus would win control over her own institutions and thus effectively nullify the Treaty of Guarantee since the constitution it was to guarantee would by then be no more.
The Turkish Cypriots had made some preparation for a breakdown since they were determined that independence should not mean, as Rauf Denktaş put it, “a change of colonial masters for the worse.” But many of the Turkish Cypriot political leaders counted on the constitution to settle down. They were encouraged in this by the first Turkish ambassador to Nicosia, Emin Dirvana, who was a philhellene and who tended to discount the warnings of Denktaş, the president of the Turkish Communal Chamber of the era, who claimed through intelligence sources to know better. According to Denktaş, who was political adviser to the Turkish Defense Organization (TMT), most of that organization had been stood down and there were only 40 active members in it when the fighting started.
Cyprus’ history from 1960 to 1974 (4)


Polycarpos Yorgadjis, a man who ran his ministry as if he were still in EOKA and who attracted to himself attributions of the most intricate plotting, used the constitutional breakdown over tax collection as an excuse for getting Makarios’s authority for building up a “secret army” of ex-EOKA men. There were also other freelance gangs of armed irregulars on the Greek side.
On Nov. 30, 1963, President Makarios wrote to Vice President Dr. Fazıl Küçük proposing 13 amendments to the constitution which, he said, would “remove obstacles to the smooth functioning and development of the state.” He did so apparently with the knowledge and encouragement of the British high commissioner, Sir Arthur Clarke, whether personally or officially is not clear: The full story of this remains obscure. Taken together, the amendments would have had the effect of resolving all outstanding issues in the Greek favor.
• The president and vice president would lose the right of veto.
• The necessity for separate majorities of Greek and Turkish members for the passage of certain laws, including taxes, to be cancelled.
• No separate municipalities.
• The ratio in the public services and in the army and police would be the same as the ratio of population.
• The Public Service Commission would be smaller and take decisions by a simple majority.
• The separate Greek Communal Chamber would be abolished.
• The administration of justice would be unified so that a Greek could not demand to be tried by a Greek judge and a Turk by a Turkish judge.
It must be said in favor of these proposals that they streamlined the administration and removed many of the features that laid stress on whether a Cypriot citizen was Greek or Turkish.
But from the Turkish Cypriot point of view they removed almost all the props to their claim to be the “co-founders” of the republic and demoted them to the status of a minority. In the view of Greek Cypriot constitutional lawyer Polyvios Polyviou, who is a sharp critic of the 1960 constitution, the course followed by the archbishop was “a grievous error” which “could not but have appeared to the Turkish Cypriots as a dangerous development that might change the internal balance of power and be taken internationally as a sign that the bi-communal nature of the state was giving way to unitary and majority principles.” In Polyviou’s opinion it would have been much better to have tried to change things gradually; a view shared at the time by the Greek government which, not having been warned in advance, told Makarios that if he had asked their advice it would have been against.
The archbishop’s proposals were hastily rejected by the vice president, Dr. Küçük, and by the government of Turkey, as one of the guarantors of the RoC. The atmosphere after the presentation of the 13 proposals was very tense, with the Turkish Cypriots interpreting the move as a preparation to slide into enosis. On Dec. 21, 1963 a street brawl in a Turkish quarter in Nicosia between a Turkish Cypriot crowd and Yorgadjis’ plainclothes special constables was followed immediately by a major Greek Cypriot attack by the various paramilitary forces against the Turks in Tahtakala region at Nicosia and in Larnaca. At first an attempt to calm the situation was made jointly by the President Makarios and the vice president Küçük and by other leaders, but it had clearly gotten out of hand and in any case the ex-EOKA element was strong in the security forces.
Although the TMT organized the defense of the Turkish minority and there were a number of acts of retaliation directed at the Greek Cypriots, there is no doubt that the main victims of the numerous incidents that took place during the next few months were Turkish Cypriots. Seven hundred Turkish Cypriot hostages, including women and children, were seized in the northern suburbs of Nicosia. During the first half of 1964, fighting continued to flare up between neighboring villages. One hundred ninety-one Turkish Cypriots and 133 Greeks were known to have been killed while it was claimed 209 Turks and 41 Greeks remained missing and could also be presumed dead.
There was much looting and destruction of Turkish villages. Some 20,000 refugees fled from them, many of them taking refuge in Kyrenia and Hamitköy (Hamid Mandres) of Nicosia. Twenty-four wholly Turkish villages and Turkish houses in 72 mixed villages were abandoned. Houses were demolished by the Greeks with the intention of destroying the hopes of Turkish Cypriots returning one day. Food, clothing, medical supplies and monetary aid to the immigrants were organized immediately by Turkey, one of the guarantors of the RoC, and shipped in. Most of the evacuation seems to have been after planned Greek assaults, with the people leaving clothing, furniture, food, machinery and hopes behind. But in some cases orders were received for the people to immigrate safely to Turkish Cypriot areas before any expected Greek Cypriot assaults took place. The partition of the island inevitably started after these Greek assaults.

Cyprus’ history from 1960 to 1974 (5)


In Nicosia the guarantors -- Turkey, the United Kingdom and Greece -- began to move over the Christmas week of 1963. The 650-man Turkish army contingent in Cyprus under the terms of the Treaty of Alliance moved out of its barracks and positioned itself astride the Nicosia-Kyrenia road in Ortaköy (Ortakeuy).
Turkish jets from the mainland buzzed Nicosia. The Turkish fleet set sail for Cyprus. President Makarios, by now alarmed that a Turkish army might indeed land, agreed that the British should intervene from the sovereign bases in order to avoid a worse situation. This produced a cease-fire in Nicosia, an exchange of hostages and the establishment of a “Green Line,” a neutral zone between the Greek and Turkish quarters in the capital which has existed till the present day. Turkish Cypriots expelled from their side of that line the entire Armenian community of Nicosia on the grounds that it had aligned itself with the Greek position.
What the guarantors did not do was carry out the one purpose for which they existed: the restoration of the 1960 constitution. The establishment of the Green Line brought peace to Nicosia, though not yet to other places, but it did not bring the fractured government together.Greek and Turkish Cypriot ministers remained on opposite sides of the line.
According to the Turkish Cypriot thesis, there was, from this time on, no legal government in Cyprus -- only provisional bodies on both sides pending the establishment of a new legal order -- the old one having been overthrown by force. Turkish Cypriot deputies and all the Turkish Cypriot civil servants were removed from their posts in Cyprus’ government by brute force and never allowed to return.
According to the Greek Cypriot thesis, there continued to be a legitimate and democratically elected government representing the great majority of the people which had, as many ex-colonial countries were doing, asserted its right to gain control of its institutions and had done so at a time, moreover, when the Turkish Cypriot vice president and ministers had willfully continued to absent themselves.
At a conference in London of the three guarantor states and the two Cypriot communities, Makarios demanded the termination of the 1960 agreements as unworkable and their replacement by “unfettered independence,” a unitary Greek government with freedom to amend the constitution. He offered the Turkish Cypriots minority rights, which as usual they rejected out of hand. The Turks said that the December fighting proved that the two communities should be physically separated. Consequently they demanded a fully federal state of Cyprus with a border between Turkish and Greek provinces known as the Attila line, which is not unlike the present cease-fire line, or, failing that, “double enosis” which would bring a frontier across Cyprus between Greece and Turkey themselves, both solutions that would imply a population transfer.
The London conference broke down with no chance of agreement. Greek Cypriots preferred to hold their position of being the only recognized government of Cyprus internationally and did not fancy sharing the power with Turkish Cypriots.While the cease-fire held in Nicosia, the British were unable to prevent Greek Cypriots from attacking Turkish Cypriots at Limassol, Larnaca and Paphos, causing widespread casualties and damage.
Turkey announced for the second time that her fleet was sailing for Cyprus and the British, desperately anxious not to get bogged down in another Cyprus conflict, insisted on the peace-keeping burden being shared. Aiming above all at preventing a clash between two NATO partners, but wanting to keep the dispute within the NATO family, the United States tried to organize a NATO intervention, but Makarios would not consider it. It was necessary after all to bring in the United Nations. By the March 4, 1964 Security Council resolution, UNFICYP (UN Peace-keeping Force in Cyprus) and a UN mediator were set up and despite a further severe Turkish warning, the danger passed. Makarios interpreted the UN resolution as recognizing “unfettered independence,” which he sought, and appointed Greek Cypriot ministers to take over the Turkish portfolios and the seized state to be the only recognized government of Cyprus.The UN force which was set up and remains till the present day was originally of over 6,000 men and is now [2008] about 750. It has always had a substantial British contingent, often over 1,000, but quite few at present, making it unusual among UN forces which normally exclude contingents from the permanent members of the Security Council.
It has achieved a good deal but not what was expected of it by either side since, as is usual with peace-keeping operations, it does not use force except in self-defense.The force’s main deterrent was its presence. By use of persuasion they were able to prevent many killings that would almost certainly have happened, but they could not be everywhere and they could not stop a determined attack. In the first few months the UN had the greatest difficulty in getting a purchase on events because there were repeated outbreaks of fighting in different parts of the island.
Since there was no Cypriot Army, President Makarios now formed a National Guard, Ethniki Fruro, introducing conscription and ignoring the veto of Vice President Küçük. Arms supplies came in from Czechoslovakia and a Greek general from the mainland took command.

to be continued.


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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Jan 06, 2008 10:41 pm

kafenes wrote:
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kafenes wrote:
Link provided by Rajput. The author is not Turkish by the way, so you can not call that Turkish Propaganda. To me it shows that the Ottoman Turks were not the barbarians you often paint them as. Enjoy.


Deniz, what about these killings? Wouldn't you say it was barbaric?

In the summer of 1570, the Ottoman Empire struck again, but this time with a full-scale invasion. About 60,000 troops, including cavalry and artillery, under the command of Lala Mustafa Pasha landed unopposed near Limassol on 2 July 1570 and laid siege to Nicosia. On the day the city fell (9 September 1570), 20,000 Nicosians Greeks were put to death, and every church, public building, and palace was looted.[/quote]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyprus_%28 ... _Empire%29



All killing is barbaric Kafenes.
The points I am raising here is the support they gave to the Orthodox church, and the suggestion that they might even have helped the invaders.

The looting and the killings (giving no quarter) was the normal practice all over Europe at that time. Why would the Ottomans be different. Having given the Greeks their church, why slaughter? We do not know. What else we dont know from this writing is what came first, Granting them their church or the slaughter. My guess is the slaughter after the city refused to surrender. Had they surrendered they might ave been saved. It was barbaric, Kafenes, but those were the days.


Deniz, it clearly says 'after the siege'. Your guess is only your excuse for not wanting to admit. You know, it takes balls to say sorry and so far I haven't seen one word of apology on this forum by TCs.

How would you like me to say that the mass killings of some TC villages by EOKA were barbaric but those were the days. Had they left the villages they might have saved themselves. But as I have admitted long before, I am ashamed and sorry to what happened to these people.



So you want to 'visit our fathers sins' onto modern day TCs. I dont know, and you dont know why these people were killed. Th Greek population who were the prefered 'people' of Cyprus were released from serfdom and given their church and the control of their own people, and then the 'killings'. It doesnt make sense. I would be glad to be enlightened.
I am not making excuses for not saying sorry. I am talking of the 'times'. If I say sorry for what the Ottomans did, if it will make any difference, I will say sorry.
Its a cheap shot trying to equate these killings with the murderings of TC families you talk about. At least these are well documented and not reported by 'biased' media.

Have a Happy New Year Kafenes.


You are right, it was a cheap shot, I'm sorry. But saying sorry about what the Ottomans did is realising old mistakes and that is how we will fix them. In the case of the Turks, they never admit of any past wrong doings and they continue with their 'mistakes' which brands them 'barbarians' and very rightfully too.

Happy New Year to you as well Deniz.



I symphatise with your feelings regarding the Turks.

Happy New Year to you too Kafenes.
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