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[Eric dayi]

I think that they are using travel documents that never should have been denied to them to make their lives easier.

you are an awsome piece of work you know that. compromising every principle that the trnc is built upon if any to use even the so called enemy. no self respect what so ever and lacking in dignity.

it is neither there for me if TC's possess RoC passports or not, however think of the action. take take take as per usual

In desperate times desperate measures are needed to be able to survive, you stuck the embargoes and isolation on us so we use you to break out from the isolation.

Ever heard the saying "Do unto other what they do unto you"?

[observer]

Nikitas wrote:

"Hellenic Republic of South Cyprus"

Have you seen this phrase printed on any official document issued by the Republic of Cyprus? If so please post details. Seems to me that you mixed up the terms, Hellenic Republic is the official name of Greece, an unlikely country to be giving passports to TCs!

Republich of Cyprus is the official name of Cyprus.

Please clarify

Previously in this thread DT wrote:

A GC republic with a sizeable TC citizeship? Have you any idea how many Turkish Cypriots are citizens at present of this Hellenic Republic?

Utu backed up the concept with:

Unfortunate, but true. To all intents and purposes, the Republic of Cyprus government has exclusively been Greek Cypriot for the last 44 years...

... ... but you’ll note that I put it in inverted commas, and added the actual words used in the document I was quoting, southern Cyprus.

I suppose that Papadopoulos started the whole thing with his Hellenic Cypriotness in his speech

[observer]

humanist wrote:

you are an awsome piece of work you know that. compromising every principle that the trnc is built upon if any to use even the so called enemy. no self respect what so ever and lacking in dignity.

it is neither there for me if TC's possess RoC passports or not, however think of the action. take take take as per usual

Firstly thanks, I don't think that I've ever been called awsome before!

Secondly, though I don't think you are an enemy, it is a basic principle of war that you take advantage of the enemy's mistakes. As the GC government have been claiming for years that they represent all TCs, while making every effort to ensure that they put as many obstacles to a normal life in their way as possible, why shouldn't TCs accept what the GC government say and get travel documents to make their life easier. Perhaps the GC government should stop the fraud of claiming to represent us (for example, taking all 6 seats in the EU parliament that were intended to be split 4/2 in a BBF (take take take?)).

In reality, the GC government is probably taking a fair amount of money from TCs by selling them travel documents. The real test of citizenship is who wants to live under GC rule. Very few TCs you'll note.

[DT.]

It is interesting though. If Talat, or any other TRNC figure had come out saying:

"Our struggle is to ensure the survival of the Republic and the continued physical and ethnic existence of Cypriot Turkishness on the land of its fathers"

... then their would be a howling mob of GCs shrieking 'partitionist'.

and before anyone starts on about RoC being legal, and TRNC being illegal, RoC has been a GC republic since 1963 and everone (especially Papadopoulos) knows it.

A GC republic with a sizeable TC citizeship? Have you any idea how many Turkish Cypriots are citizens at present of this Hellenic Republic?

Go on then tell us how many TCs are residents of the so called "RoC"?

firstly Cartman we need to get you back to 1st grade and help you through the reading and writing first.

If you read carefully my words say "citizenship" not residents as you say.

Now that you are corrected...again ...i can answer your question which is the vast majority of your countrymen are citizens of this Hellenic republic as you call it. You really seem out of touch with these people you insist you keep talking on their behalf for.

Firstly, the TCs who took up the "citizenship" only did it to make you GCs pay for what you did to us. The great majority of them still live in the TRNC and stick two fingers in your faces every time they travel in to a EU country, or any country for that matter, or use the Docs/hospitals which you have to pay for out of your own pocket.

But never mind all that, the so-called "RoC" gave "citizenship" to TCs in the hope that it would help the so-called "RoC" politically to gain the upper hand but be truthful to yourself for a change instead of lying to yourself and us and tell us if your cunning plan worked or did it blow up in your face like every other plan you tried to get your ENOSIS.

Boy I'm just glad that you GCs are running about elephants in a china shop without having any idea of what you are doing, makes our lives a hell of a lot easier dealing with people who piss against the wind.




BTW, dumbo, I asked you how many TCs are "resident" in the so-called "RoC" NOT how many took up "citizenship", so back to kindergarten with you to learn to read and understand what you read you D Twat.

If you don't know the answer or are too stupid to understand what you read it'd be in your best interest to STFU, you don't need to prove what a D Twat you are to me or anyone else, we all know already.

it would be rude to come back at you. Its not your fault you're mentally handicapped and I don't make fun of those less fortunate than me.

Its not your fault....cousins marrying will do this to you.

[bilako22]

Why bring the unfortunate people who are really disabled into your argument just to make a cheap point?

[Eric dayi]

It is interesting though. If Talat, or any other TRNC figure had come out saying:

"Our struggle is to ensure the survival of the Republic and the continued physical and ethnic existence of Cypriot Turkishness on the land of its fathers"

... then their would be a howling mob of GCs shrieking 'partitionist'.

and before anyone starts on about RoC being legal, and TRNC being illegal, RoC has been a GC republic since 1963 and everone (especially Papadopoulos) knows it.

A GC republic with a sizeable TC citizeship? Have you any idea how many Turkish Cypriots are citizens at present of this Hellenic Republic?

Go on then tell us how many TCs are residents of the so called "RoC"?

firstly Cartman we need to get you back to 1st grade and help you through the reading and writing first.

If you read carefully my words say "citizenship" not residents as you say.

Now that you are corrected...again ...i can answer your question which is the vast majority of your countrymen are citizens of this Hellenic republic as you call it. You really seem out of touch with these people you insist you keep talking on their behalf for.

Firstly, the TCs who took up the "citizenship" only did it to make you GCs pay for what you did to us. The great majority of them still live in the TRNC and stick two fingers in your faces every time they travel in to a EU country, or any country for that matter, or use the Docs/hospitals which you have to pay for out of your own pocket.

But never mind all that, the so-called "RoC" gave "citizenship" to TCs in the hope that it would help the so-called "RoC" politically to gain the upper hand but be truthful to yourself for a change instead of lying to yourself and us and tell us if your cunning plan worked or did it blow up in your face like every other plan you tried to get your ENOSIS.

Boy I'm just glad that you GCs are running about elephants in a china shop without having any idea of what you are doing, makes our lives a hell of a lot easier dealing with people who piss against the wind.




BTW, dumbo, I asked you how many TCs are "resident" in the so-called "RoC" NOT how many took up "citizenship", so back to kindergarten with you to learn to read and understand what you read you D Twat.

If you don't know the answer or are too stupid to understand what you read it'd be in your best interest to STFU, you don't need to prove what a you are to me or anyone else, we all know already.

it would be rude to come back at you. Its not your fault you're mentally handicapped and I don't make fun of those less fortunate than me.

Its not your fault....cousins marrying will do this to you.

The best thing you could have done was to keep quiet and not reply or to correct your mistake by replying to my original question that I put to you. This would have restored your dignity and make you look a little better. But like a true Daft Twat, you do not have the capability to turn negative in to positive. Your God, in the true meaning of the word, saw it fit to create you as the Daft Twat of the forum to keep us all amused and of course to tell us TCs what awaits us in a unified "RoC".


You see, it's not only TPapdope, your own God is also all for partition.....so what chance have you got for "unification" (read: Enosis) Daft Twat?

Sweet dreams Daft Twat.

[Eric dayi]

Why bring the unfortunate people who are really disabled into your argument just to make a cheap point?

I could tell you why but there really is no need to stoop down to his level.

[humanist]

Firstly thanks, I don't think that I've ever been called awsome before!

Secondly, though I don't think you are an enemy, it is a basic principle of war that you take advantage of the enemy's mistakes. As the GC government have been claiming for years that they represent all TCs, while making every effort to ensure that they put as many obstacles to a normal life in their way as possible, why shouldn't TCs accept what the GC government say and get travel documents to make their life easier. Perhaps the GC government should stop the fraud of claiming to represent us (for example, taking all 6 seats in the EU parliament that were intended to be split 4/2 in a BBF (take take take?)).

In reality, the GC government is probably taking a fair amount of money from TCs by selling them travel documents. The real test of citizenship is who wants to live under GC rule. Very few TCs you'll note.

each to their own ....... if you wish to recognise the evil RoC by using its passports and ID cards that is entirely your prorogative and your doing it. am merely saying why if you (not you personally) hate the Greek Cypriots so much why accept what they are offering. It appears to me TC's will use the RoC when it suits them but be trnc citizens when it also suits them, namely living off other peoples misfortunes.

[Eric dayi]

Firstly thanks, I don't think that I've ever been called awsome before!

Secondly, though I don't think you are an enemy, it is a basic principle of war that you take advantage of the enemy's mistakes. As the GC government have been claiming for years that they represent all TCs, while making every effort to ensure that they put as many obstacles to a normal life in their way as possible, why shouldn't TCs accept what the GC government say and get travel documents to make their life easier. Perhaps the GC government should stop the fraud of claiming to represent us (for example, taking all 6 seats in the EU parliament that were intended to be split 4/2 in a BBF (take take take?)).

In reality, the GC government is probably taking a fair amount of money from TCs by selling them travel documents. The real test of citizenship is who wants to live under GC rule. Very few TCs you'll note.

each to their own ....... if you wish to recognise the evil RoC by using its passports and ID cards that is entirely your prorogative and your doing it. am merely saying why if you (not you personally) hate the Greek Cypriots so much why accept what they are offering. It appears to me TC's will use the RoC when it suits them but be trnc citizens when it also suits them, namely living off other peoples misfortunes.

You just don't get it do you "humanist"? We do not recognise the evil "Roc" at all but if the rest of the world accepts it's passport then we will use it to escape the net (isolation,embargoes) you have cast around us TCs.

In order to survive in desperate times desperate measures are called for and are put in to practice. In your desperation for ENOSIS you GCs and Greeks even attempted to genocide us TCs to turn the whole island of Cyprus in to a Greek island. When that failed you tried to break us by imposing embargoes and isolated us in to 3% of the island not even allowing the most essential things through that we needed to survive. When that too failed in 1974 you GCs and Greeks tried to genocide us TCs a second time. That too failed and only resulted in you loosing one third of the island and the birth of the TRNC but still embargoed and still isolated so we use whatever legal means accepted by the international community to survive.

All I am waiting for now is for you or any GC/Greek to come back and tell us all that you certainly would not have accepted TC passports if the shoe was on the other foot so that you can survive to fight another day.

Ok, go for it, I am waiting, errr...make that, we are all waiting.

[growuptcs]

Eric Dayi instead of typing your paranoia for others to read, just keep it to yourself or just blow it out your ass. When will you realize that you cant move forward with OUR properties? You can bulltalk for the rest of your life with Turks that actually like to read your crap, but civil society will not let you get your way with stolen properties. You guys love to corner yourselves and point fingers to deny anything you dont want to hear, and then say no one wants to live with you TURKS. Your all like trained robots.