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[repulsewarrior]

zan, any choice is a throw of the dice. But in our context we must do what is right in a fight of good against bad, as people, not as a grecophone or turcophone.

entrenching the status quo, for convenience and in compromise, is a bigger role of the dice because leaving the island's territory and its dwellers as adverserial parts will allow fanatics to continue their games.

[repulsewarrior]

deniz i will give you a link tonight.

[zan]

zan, any choice is a throw of the dice. But in our context we must do what is right in a fight of good against bad, as people, not as a grecophone or turcophone.

entrenching the status quo, for convenience and in compromise, is a bigger role of the dice because leaving the island's territory and its dwellers as adverserial parts will allow fanatics to continue their games.

I don't think that is true. One is hope at close quarters and the other with guarantees.

[repulsewarrior]

Hope at close quarters is all we have whatever the end of the impasse. Guarantees are best kept by the people who it effects, and identiying us as people first assures our goodwill toward each other, allowing either one of 'us' to demonstrate our inclusiveness to the rest of the world.

[denizaksulu]

Hope at close quarters is all we have whatever the end of the impasse. Guarantees are best kept by the people who it effects, and identiying us as people first assures our goodwill toward each other, allowing either one of 'us' to demonstrate our inclusiveness to the rest of the world.

Until very recently I was an optimist like you seem to be. But the few ' extreme' views presented to us on this issue has made me become more wary. The owners of these anti-TC views seem to be increasing, soon to be +1. Education of the masses is needed (both sides) and until then the TCs will need the 'Guarantees'.

[RebelWithoutAPause]

Deniz, the only people who come here to be educated are the ones who read the posts but dont take an active part in the forum. Those extremists here (like Zan and Eric Dayi) dont want to and will not let themselves learn anything. They are here simply to satisfy their needs because certain other needs are not being met.

Dont get too downhearted - I wouldnt take this website as a census of the general view of peoples. Most sensible people dont even take part in websites such as this one.

[denizaksulu]

Deniz, the only people who come here to be educated are the ones who read the posts but dont take an active part in the forum. Those extremists here (like Zan and Eric Dayi) dont want to and will not let themselves learn anything. They are here simply to satisfy their needs because certain other needs are not being met.

Dont get too downhearted - I wouldnt take this website as a census of the general view of peoples. Most sensible people dont even take part in websites such as this one.

The 'extreme' forumers (as opposed to 'being an extremist' are the ones proudly stating their hatred towards everything T or TC and vice versa. If someone supports 'partition', I would not call them extremists, nor anyone who asked for Enosis. These will be differing opinions, How you go about achieving these might determine whether you are an 'extremist. Thats how I see it. I am sure (perhaps not) you will disagree.

[repulsewarrior]

Dont get too downhearted - I wouldnt take this website as a census of the general view of peoples. Most sensible people dont even take part in websites such as this one.

LOL, so true; vanguards and reactionaries. Passion and a purpose in a collision of words, which i hope will turn to a battle against real enemies where we all turn to stand as one, against ignorance, because we all care (like the sensible people) for a solution where it is not "Greeks" or "Turks" that win, but people who choose decency, respect, and good faith, as equals.

[repulsewarrior]

deniz, i am not an optimist.

i serve by my giving, it is my duty to be loving, and to act with Grace, because like so many others, i believe in God.

suffer peace.

[bilako22]

Cyprus -Turkish troops = Greeks beating the shit out of TCs.