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Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:14 pm

...yes deniz the green line remains in my Cyprus as well, but there is no need for its defense. Ther may be "Greek" enclaves in your part, and there will will be"Turkish" enclaves in the other. However Turkish Cypriots and Greek Cypruots will have self representaion and an exclusive jurisdiction over their territory to sustain themselves as a majority, having respect and giving recognition to the minorities that live amongst them. The Republic of Cyprus, thus will be even more vital in defending our Individual Rights and in representing our interest to the rest of the world because it will be free from the bias which has affected its credibility. Most of all, we will live 'normal' lives as island dwellers, and as a country, without the unnatural restrictions which have been placed on our freedom of movement, association, and expression that serve the interlocutors interests before our own.
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Postby zan » Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:25 pm

Nikitas wrote:Amazing how people who were born after 1963 remember those events of 1960-63 better than the rest of us!


If you are referring to eric-dayi.....How do you know how old he is????
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:25 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:...yes deniz the green line remains in my Cyprus as well, but there is no need for its defense. Ther may be "Greek" enclaves in your part, and there will will be"Turkish" enclaves in the other. However Turkish Cypriots and Greek Cypruots will have self representaion and an exclusive jurisdiction over their territory to sustain themselves as a majority, having respect and giving recognition to the minorities that live amongst them. The Republic of Cyprus, thus will be even more vital in defending our Individual Rights and in representing our interest to the rest of the world because it will be free from the bias which has affected its credibility. Most of all, we will live 'normal' lives as island dwellers, and as a country, without the unnatural restrictions which have been placed on our freedom of movement, association, and expression that serve the interlocutors interests before our own.



Once The North becomes part of the EU, then the question of the defence will not arise.
The question I would ask, at the slightest sign of unrest, would the EU intervene, or would it be considered an 'Internal Issue?'
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:31 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:...yes deniz the green line remains in my Cyprus as well, but there is no need for its defense. Ther may be "Greek" enclaves in your part, and there will will be"Turkish" enclaves in the other. However Turkish Cypriots and Greek Cypruots will have self representaion and an exclusive jurisdiction over their territory to sustain themselves as a majority, having respect and giving recognition to the minorities that live amongst them. The Republic of Cyprus, thus will be even more vital in defending our Individual Rights and in representing our interest to the rest of the world because it will be free from the bias which has affected its credibility. Most of all, we will live 'normal' lives as island dwellers, and as a country, without the unnatural restrictions which have been placed on our freedom of movement, association, and expression that serve the interlocutors interests before our own.



Once The North becomes part of the EU, then the question of the defence will not arise.
The question I would ask, at the slightest sign of unrest, would the EU intervene, or would it be considered an 'Internal Issue?'



As it was presented to the world at large for the years 1964 - 1974.
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Postby zan » Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:42 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:...yes deniz the green line remains in my Cyprus as well, but there is no need for its defense. Ther may be "Greek" enclaves in your part, and there will will be"Turkish" enclaves in the other. However Turkish Cypriots and Greek Cypruots will have self representaion and an exclusive jurisdiction over their territory to sustain themselves as a majority, having respect and giving recognition to the minorities that live amongst them. The Republic of Cyprus, thus will be even more vital in defending our Individual Rights and in representing our interest to the rest of the world because it will be free from the bias which has affected its credibility. Most of all, we will live 'normal' lives as island dwellers, and as a country, without the unnatural restrictions which have been placed on our freedom of movement, association, and expression that serve the interlocutors interests before our own.



Once The North becomes part of the EU, then the question of the defence will not arise.
The question I would ask, at the slightest sign of unrest, would the EU intervene, or would it be considered an 'Internal Issue?'


One of the greatest dangers to the TC people....
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Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:44 pm

In my mind, the island will be supramilitarised, with Nato forces stationed in bases here as well as other forces which will have regional HQ here, such as the UN. Cyprus can never be without "the military" because of its strategic importance to the safety and security of the region. In this context, as always, anything can happen, however intercommunal strife will be an issue and a concern to far more than the Cypriots themselves.
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Postby zan » Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:46 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:In my mind, the island will be supramilitarised, with Nato forces stationed in bases here as well as other forces which will have regional HQ here, such as the UN. Cyprus can never be without "the military" because of its strategic importance to the safety and security of the region. In this context, as always, anything can happen, however intercommunal strife will be an issue and a concern to far more than the Cypriots themselves.


Is it a responsible thing to do to leave that issue to a throw of the dice????Or rather he whims of the people.
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:52 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:In my mind, the island will be supramilitarised, with Nato forces stationed in bases here as well as other forces which will have regional HQ here, such as the UN. Cyprus can never be without "the military" because of its strategic importance to the safety and security of the region. In this context, as always, anything can happen, however intercommunal strife will be an issue and a concern to far more than the Cypriots themselves.



Then you have answered the fears of the TC 'minority' my friend.
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Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:59 pm

thank-you.

support my proposal. repeat it. argue for it. debate it so that it can be refind. most of all don't give up because it causes many to get upset. but as you now realise it is viable because it raises us as Cypriots, demonstrating our commitment as individuals to the highest principals of the family we call Humankind, as well as sustaining our need for an indentity which provides for us a distinction to others as people.
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:05 pm

repulsewarrior wrote:thank-you.

support my proposal. repeat it. argue for it. debate it so that it can be refind. most of all don't give up because it causes many to get upset. but as you now realise it is viable because it raises us as Cypriots, demonstrating our commitment as individuals to the highest principals of the family we call Humankind, as well as sustaining our need for an indentity which provides for us a distinction to others as people.



Give me the link to 'your proposals' so that I may refresh my memory. There have been so many, mostly ignored.
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