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[repulsewarrior]

apology accepted.

if you are grecophone, it is natural to feel apprehension from the number of turcphones you will meet as adversries in debate on these forums, since their numbers come from a population overwhelmingly larger than yours.

if you are turcophone, i salute you because i too am proud to put Cyprus first, before any ethnicity. i love this island and i consider my roots here a special privelage for me to act as a Cypriot, respectfully and with the dignity of Grace, to act as its steward and to keep it whole.

wherever you are, whoever you are, deniz, if you can say you are sorry, you are a man, and if you love Cyprus you are my brother.

[Eric dayi]

Good luck on your Greek ENOSIs . I look forward to the day that TRNC does an ENOSIS with Turkey.

Never mind Ensis with Turkey, eventually it will be Enosis with the south. We will be one agai. Hurrah. Going round in circles again.

Somehow I don't for a second believe that you even believe what you say Deniz.

BTW, when were we "One" at all, 1960 to 1963? Before that, how? Just because we lived togethr peacefully under a foreign rule does not mean that we were "one", ever. Look what happened as soon as we were left alone to live together, they try to genocide us for their ENOSIS dream.

If we were "one" then they would never have attempted to genocide us Denis, you just do not murder your own but then again, we were never their "own", we were always the "interfering Turks" and the only way they could get their ENOSIS was to kill every single one of or chase us off the island like they did with the Turks in Crete.

Ethnic cleansing or genocide, they didn't give a damn how they got their wish and I and many others like me will never be as "one" with people who murdered our people and tried to kill us too.

Unification will never happen, there's just too much hate for anything Turkish on the GC side. And if anyone tries to tell me that the GCs have changed and they no longer hate us GCs I'll call that person a liar to his face. All you have to do is to follow this forum to see how much the GCs hate us TCs and specially Turks. The GCs spread hatred towards anything Turkish faster than any bush fire.

The GCs and TCs will never be "one", never were either. They just abided their time until Cyprus got it's independence and started their genocide war only three years after the joint foundation of the original RoC.

If they had half a chance they would, without hesitation, start the genocide war all over again and make sure there isn't a single TC left in Cyprus.

I am convinced of that and so are many, many others and hence why there is and never will be a unification, not in our life time anyway, maybe in a thousand years or so.

[repulsewarrior]

good post eric, thank-you i enjoyed it.

...before we were divided into "Greeks" and "Turks" we were simply, this island's dwellers, not so long ago, with the advent of the Modern Age. And this in a context where its society has roots dating back to times before the building of pyramids.

...forever until today it seems, the fraternity which spawned one of the most socialised people in the world was broken by the enmity of nations who breed for themselves an exclusivity which ignores the others and their past.

I choose to work for an order that is greater than my own identity. I am not a Greek. I am not a Turk. I am a person first and I believe in the Equality of Mankind. Cyprus is an island, and we are its dwellers. Anything less is a betrayal to the ones we grieve for, which will only bring more death and suffering to the victims of those who willfully plunder.

eric, wouldn't you agree, beyond your own apprehensions, in a better world, that the proposal i have made is viable, as a solution toward ending the Cyprus Problem, because it is simple and it is easy to understand.

[utu]

apology accepted.

if you are grecophone, it is natural to feel apprehension from the number of turcphones you will meet as adversries in debate on these forums, since their numbers come from a population overwhelmingly larger than yours.

if you are turcophone, i salute you because i too am proud to put Cyprus first, before any ethnicity. i love this island and i consider my roots here a special privelage for me to act as a Cypriot, respectfully and with the dignity of Grace, to act as its steward and to keep it whole.

wherever you are, whoever you are, deniz, if you can say you are sorry, you are a man, and if you love Cyprus you are my brother.

Whether you're Grecophone or Turkophone really does not matter. It's the TurkoPHOBES and GrecoPHOBES that are perpetuating the problem.

[repulsewarrior]

LOL!!!

[denizaksulu]

Good luck on your Greek ENOSIs . I look forward to the day that TRNC does an ENOSIS with Turkey.

Never mind Ensis with Turkey, eventually it will be Enosis with the south. We will be one agai. Hurrah. Going round in circles again.

Somehow I don't for a second believe that you even believe what you say Deniz.

BTW, when were we "One" at all, 1960 to 1963? Before that, how? Just because we lived togethr peacefully under a foreign rule does not mean that we were "one", ever. Look what happened as soon as we were left alone to live together, they try to genocide us for their ENOSIS dream.

If we were "one" then they would never have attempted to genocide us Denis, you just do not murder your own but then again, we were never their "own", we were always the "interfering Turks" and the only way they could get their ENOSIS was to kill every single one of or chase us off the island like they did with the Turks in Crete.

Ethnic cleansing or genocide, they didn't give a damn how they got their wish and I and many others like me will never be as "one" with people who murdered our people and tried to kill us too.

Unification will never happen, there's just too much hate for anything Turkish on the GC side. And if anyone tries to tell me that the GCs have changed and they no longer hate us GCs I'll call that person a liar to his face. All you have to do is to follow this forum to see how much the GCs hate us TCs and specially Turks. The GCs spread hatred towards anything Turkish faster than any bush fire.

The GCs and TCs will never be "one", never were either. They just abided their time until Cyprus got it's independence and started their genocide war only three years after the joint foundation of the original RoC.

If they had half a chance they would, without hesitation, start the genocide war all over again and make sure there isn't a single TC left in Cyprus.

I am convinced of that and so are many, many others and hence why there is and never will be a unification, not in our life time anyway, maybe in a thousand years or so.

With 'one' again, I meant undivided by a 'green line'. Dont read much into it what I did not mean.

[Nikitas]

Amazing how people who were born after 1963 remember those events of 1960-63 better than the rest of us!

[denizaksulu]

Amazing how people who were born after 1963 remember those events of 1960-63 better than the rest of us!

Agreed.

Living through events is one thing and reading interpretations about events in books is another thing.

[Kikapu]

Probably all the time zan, hence the reason why the GCs are all over the place and loosing ground on everything they try to do.

The trouble is, Eric, is that they cannot - or will not - see that.

They'll wake up to reality one day Dean and smell the Turkish coffee....hang on a minute...... they do smell the Turkish coffee, right across the Green Line each and everyday of the year and see the massive Turkish flags and know that there is a country called the TRNC and that there is absolutely nothing they can do about it.

Really, Wife Beater.!!!

Then how do you explain, that the "TRNC" could not even hold a International Friendly Football match with a lousy team such a Luton Town, without the permission of the RoC, that you very proudly have declared Independence from, and even have the Independence Parade each year to try to convince yourself, that you have a "TRNC Country".

And that's just the lowest step of a very tall ladder "Hiyar Dayi" for you to climb to be considered to be a REAL COUNTRY.

[Nikitas]

Losing ground?

Today's European press is full of praise for the RoC smooth transition to the Euro, much faster and smoother than in other countries. The financial outlook for investments etc is now seen to be better than in the past.So where do you see the setbacks?