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[DT.]

Funny, it started with Cypriots + Greeks = Problem

if
c+g=p
and g=t (problem component)
and p =\ s
then c-t=s

Cyprus- Turks= Solution

Problem component wrongly identified. Go back to school. Good try though

good advice but should be handed to yourself though.

if you notice g=t means Greeks and Turks are the problem components in this story. Now if you consider 35,000 troops as a cucumber and watercress tea party then its not school you need but a nobel prize winner in pshycology.

[denizaksulu]

Funny, it started with Cypriots + Greeks = Problem

if
c+g=p
and g=t (problem component)
and p =\ s
then c-t=s

Cyprus- Turks= Solution

Problem component wrongly identified. Go back to school. Good try though

good advice but should be handed to yourself though.

if you notice g=t means Greeks and Turks are the problem components in this story. Now if you consider 35,000 troops as a cucumber and watercress tea party then its not school you need but a nobel prize winner in pshycology.

Your annotation of problem component appears to apply to 't' only. You should have declared your variables 'g' and 't' as being the relevant components to avoid the ambiguity.

There is also another relevant external 'variable' you should have included. They will not be cancelled out, however hard you try.

[phoenix]

Funny, it started with Cypriots + Greeks = Problem

if
c+g=p
and g=t (problem component)
and p =\ s
then c-t=s

Cyprus- Turks= Solution

Cyprus/2= Solution

. . . . VP has a sense of humour!


Your equation can be re-written as:

Cyprus = 2 X Solution

So a whole Cyprus is twice as good a solution . . . . .

But Tpapa does not want that.

So why was he so fervently against the Annan plan then, if partition was his purpose

Deniz dear, take your time answering 'cos I have to see to something for a while . . .

He is like yourself. He likes to have the last word, or it has to be his own idea,and the Annan Plan certainly was not.

Deniz, I thought I told you to take your time answering . . .

What kind of answer is that?

But I do agree, he is the kind of President that has his own ideas which is why he is so interesting, exciting, inspiring and above all presides with purposeful precision.

[Eric dayi]

Funny, it started with Cypriots + Greeks = Problem

if
c+g=p
and g=t (problem component)
and p =\ s
then c-t=s

Cyprus- Turks= Solution

Cyprus/2= Solution

. . . . VP has a sense of humour!


Your equation can be re-written as:

Cyprus = 2 X Solution

So a whole Cyprus is twice as good a solution . . . . .

Give that woman a peanut, she has finally discovered the true solution to the Cyprus problem.

2 x Solution = 1 x Greek South Cyprus + 1 x TRNC = Peace = Partition = - ENOSIS = - Greek Rule.

Well done, now go TPapadope and demand your reward. I'm sure he will be too glad to give it to you for at last coming to the same conclusion as him about partitioning the island.

There's hope for you yet.

[zan]

Cyprus president hopes for solution for divided island in 2008

In his New Year message, Papadopoulos said, "We look forward, with faith and optimism, to ensuring peace and safety in our divided country through a truly viable and functional solution to our national problem that will reunite our people and our land."

"We hope that in the year 2008, such a solution will become a reality and a permanent situation for the benefit of the entire people of Cyprus, both Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots," said the president.


If he means it.....And I doubt very much he does.....Is he know going against the likes of Pirtis, GR, Phoenix and Kifeas. After all...[b]He says he is going to work for all the people in Cyprus and not just the GCs as he has done so far......Goes against what all the above have been saying if he is now changing his tune doesn't it??? I for one hope it's true but it is too close to the elections for my liking[/b]

Well Zan this is exactly what I was hoping for . . . . Tpap is ready to mobilise the solution... Which as we all know, has nothing to do with permanent partition and everything to do with removing the Turkish troops and restoring the the ethnically cleansed Cypriots in their rightful homes.

Your interpretation has no bearing on what Tpap said in the above quote, nor what he stands for. Dig somewhere else

. . . and my cycle tour around my beloved Kyrenia is back on the cards for 2008

Man o man....The christmas spirit must have been drunk with a brain bypass for a chaser........ Did I say anything about permanent partition here I said that I don't believe that he is interested in working for all the Cypriots and he proved me right when he said in another speech that he thinks that time will seal partition and his hopes are with a Hellenic Cyprus. Playing the part of the Monkey and the organ grinder and dancing to his own tune while the rest of us look on and laugh.....Thats you as well as him.....

Well Zan, there's your contradiction right up there . . . .

As for partition, you know I would never endorse that, so why say Tpap is going for a solution against what I would want?

NEW YEAR’S WISHES
Tassos Papadopoulos: “The fact that a prompt and correct solution on Cyprus is prevented by the unacceptable Turkish stance and behavior does not mean we are forced to ‘close’ the Cyprus problem with an unsuitable arrangement, just for the sake of time. We do not strive to gain time at the cost of missing the substance. Our struggle is to ensure the survival of the Republic and the continued physical and ethnic existence of Cypriot Hellenism on the land of its fathers. Time may be cementing the fait accomplish of the invasion and occupation, but a bad solution would cement and legitimise the prospects for disaster.”


What part of this speech do you not understand lovely.....Point it out and I will explain once again.....Does this not contradict what he said above
And when did Tpap come to you for advise on what to do .........

[utu]

what a fantasy, Dr. ; too much zevania for you at your holiday table, or perhaps, too little for TPap at his.

...yes, I agree entirely, the start is 1960 and the only legal Constitution that existed. You will note Birki, that my propasal upholds the principals of our foundation as a State, modernising it if you will, with the elimination of the Communal Chamber and its replacement instead by two mutually exclusive National Assemblies, adding to it the Bizonal component, by adding enclaves (dividing the island into two parts from many pieces), allowing for the jurisdiction over territory by an ethnic majority independantly so that they can sustain themselves, ending the conflict that erupted over municipalities, obliging both societies to recognise and respect their own respective minorities within their Communal state.

As for the legislature of the Republic, I hope for a Bicameral reformation so that a Lower House will represent by population, electing candidates as independants , perhaps with regional Party support, to secure for the citizen the Government's transparency having seats at all Government Committees, and an Upper House where the President wins his leadership (with a counterpart, the Vice President), whether Turcophone or Grecophone because he/she has won, as the leader of a Party a majority of seats, where every elector has two votes for this Chamber, voting from two slates for the Turkish Cypriot and the Greek Cypriot representatives that suit them best.

What is simlpe Dr.B, is the position the so called Leaders have taken which allows them to remain in stagnation as adversaries.

You know, this is just crazy enough to work (though a lot of people on this forum will probably agree with all but the last three words of my comment)...

[Eric dayi]

Cyprus president hopes for solution for divided island in 2008

In his New Year message, Papadopoulos said, "We look forward, with faith and optimism, to ensuring peace and safety in our divided country through a truly viable and functional solution to our national problem that will reunite our people and our land."

"We hope that in the year 2008, such a solution will become a reality and a permanent situation for the benefit of the entire people of Cyprus, both Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots," said the president.


If he means it.....And I doubt very much he does.....Is he know going against the likes of Pirtis, GR, Phoenix and Kifeas. After all...[b]He says he is going to work for all the people in Cyprus and not just the GCs as he has done so far......Goes against what all the above have been saying if he is now changing his tune doesn't it??? I for one hope it's true but it is too close to the elections for my liking[/b]

Well Zan this is exactly what I was hoping for . . . . Tpap is ready to mobilise the solution... Which as we all know, has nothing to do with permanent partition and everything to do with removing the Turkish troops and restoring the the ethnically cleansed Cypriots in their rightful homes.

Your interpretation has no bearing on what Tpap said in the above quote, nor what he stands for. Dig somewhere else

. . . and my cycle tour around my beloved Kyrenia is back on the cards for 2008

Man o man....The christmas spirit must have been drunk with a brain bypass for a chaser........ Did I say anything about permanent partition here I said that I don't believe that he is interested in working for all the Cypriots and he proved me right when he said in another speech that he thinks that time will seal partition and his hopes are with a Hellenic Cyprus. Playing the part of the Monkey and the organ grinder and dancing to his own tune while the rest of us look on and laugh.....Thats you as well as him.....

Well Zan, there's your contradiction right up there . . . .

As for partition, you know I would never endorse that, so why say Tpap is going for a solution against what I would want?

NEW YEAR’S WISHES
Tassos Papadopoulos: “The fact that a prompt and correct solution on Cyprus is prevented by the unacceptable Turkish stance and behavior does not mean we are forced to ‘close’ the Cyprus problem with an unsuitable arrangement, just for the sake of time. We do not strive to gain time at the cost of missing the substance. Our struggle is to ensure the survival of the Republic and the continued physical and ethnic existence of Cypriot Hellenism on the land of its fathers. Time may be cementing the fait accomplish of the invasion and occupation, but a bad solution would cement and legitimise the prospects for disaster.”


What part of this speech do you not understand lovely.....Point it out and I will explain once again.....Does this not contradict what he said above
And when did Tpap come to you for advise on what to do .........

Probably all the time zan, hence the reason why the GCs are all over the place and loosing ground on everything they try to do.

[Expatkiwi]

Probably all the time zan, hence the reason why the GCs are all over the place and loosing ground on everything they try to do.

The trouble is, Eric, is that they cannot - or will not - see that.

[repulsewarrior]

what a fantasy, Dr. ; too much zevania for you at your holiday table, or perhaps, too little for TPap at his.

...yes, I agree entirely, the start is 1960 and the only legal Constitution that existed. You will note Birki, that my propasal upholds the principals of our foundation as a State, modernising it if you will, with the elimination of the Communal Chamber and its replacement instead by two mutually exclusive National Assemblies, adding to it the Bizonal component, by adding enclaves (dividing the island into two parts from many pieces), allowing for the jurisdiction over territory by an ethnic majority independantly so that they can sustain themselves, ending the conflict that erupted over municipalities, obliging both societies to recognise and respect their own respective minorities within their Communal state.

As for the legislature of the Republic, I hope for a Bicameral reformation so that a Lower House will represent by population, electing candidates as independants , perhaps with regional Party support, to secure for the citizen the Government's transparency having seats at all Government Committees, and an Upper House where the President wins his leadership (with a counterpart, the Vice President), whether Turcophone or Grecophone because he/she has won, as the leader of a Party a majority of seats, where every elector has two votes for this Chamber, voting from two slates for the Turkish Cypriot and the Greek Cypriot representatives that suit them best.

What is simlpe Dr.B, is the position the so called Leaders have taken which allows them to remain in stagnation as adversaries.

You know, this is just crazy enough to work (though a lot of people on this forum will probably agree with all but the last three words of my comment)...

thank-you.

if you like it, support it, because it is serious.

repeat it, suggest it, argue for it.

remind people that the solution should not be for their own betterment. remind people that they should be asking themselves what they can give, toward the betterment of the Human condition,

...with this unique chance in history, to found their own represention as this island's dwellers, free from subjugation.

[repulsewarrior]

other things that might upset you...

...i would like to remind people that ENOSIS has been won as of the first of this year. With the introduction of the Euro, Greek Cypriots and Greeks are united. They can trade and promote social exchange amongst themselves seemlessly.

EOKA can be no more. as a threat to our State, it has been eliminated.

In all seriousness, we must now turn toward our own affairs, as an inclusive society, sovereign, and multiethnic at its core.