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[halil]

İn here we are talking about crimes that has been done against TC's in CYPRUS ....... LOL.

PART 1
SMALL IMAGINATIONS: GREEK CYPRIOT CHILDREN'S CONSTRUCTIONS OF "THE
TURK"by
Spyros Spyrou
Cyprus College, Nicosia, Cyprus

INTRODUCTION
"There was a Turk, a Greek and an American and they went up a very tall
mountain. The American took his shirt off and threw it down. The Turk asked
him: 'Why did you throw your shirt down?' And the American told him: 'We have
a lot in America.' Then the Turk was jealous and took his watch off and threw it
down. The Cypriot [she means the "Greek"] says to the Turk: 'Why did you throw
your watch down? It's so nice!' They were all friends. And the Turk said: 'Ouh,
we have a lot in Turkey.' Then the Cypriot takes the Turk and throws him down
from the cliff and the American says: 'Why did you throw the Turk down the
cliff?' And the Cypriot said: 'We have a lot of them in Cyprus.'"
When Elena, a sixth grader, told me this joke she laughed with her heart. It was meant to
be a joke, to entertain. But the matter to which it referred was a serious one, for Elena and all the
other children I worked with and who at times would tell me jokes like this. The choice of Turks
in the punch line is not accidental of course. It is precisely the reason for it being a joke. The
Turks are a well-understood problem for Greek Cypriot children. They are the invaders, the
occupiers, the enemy. Therefore, as a group they have a unique position in their imaginations.
This paper describes and analyzes how Greek Cypriot elementary school children
perceive, imagine, and talk about Turks as a people. My attempt is to illustrate the process of
ethnic identity construction in childhood as it takes shape in contemporary Greek Cypriot society.
The data I present here were collected during a year of intensive ethnographic fieldwork
(July 1996 to July 1997) carried out in the southern part of Cyprus, the area controlled by the
Republic of Cyprus. The aim of the study was to examine ethnic identity construction among
Greek Cypriot children attending elementary school (Spyrou 1999). The project focused on two
communities and their respective schools, one urban community near the buffer zone in Nicosia,
the capital of Cyprus, and a rural community about one hour’s drive south-west of Nicosia. The
school emerged as a major site for the study of ethnic socialization but other contexts outside the
school were also studied in order to account for the multiple sites and agents that are responsible
for children’s ethnic socialization (e.g., the home, the playground, the coffee shop, and the
afternoon school). A variety of different methods and techniques were used to collect data
including observation, participant-observation, interviewing, sorting and ranking, drawing, essaywriting,
picture and poem interpretation, photography and video recording. The data I use in this
article mainly come from classroom observations and interviews with children.

[shahmaran]

Oh not at all, 500 years is a perfectly acceptable time frame for someone like Piratis to keep bollocking people about it, because if he doesn't that would prove him to be the inexcusable racist fool that he is, so lets go back as far as we possibly can to find another "Turkish" wrong doing

After all the Greeks still hope to get Istanbul back, as the recently opened archives shows that they were indeed planning on attacking Turkey through Thrace during the 74 invasion IF the US had not intervened through undisclosed strategies, so Piratis is very rightfully a fruit of such mentality that is evident even in Greece, mentality such as his is the REAL underlying reason that we are divided, not the unifying one that he so shamelessly tries to portray here, what a joke this man is!

[Piratis]

Piratis I apologise for what my great great great great great grandfather did but isnt it an awful long time to bear a grudge, makes me think that your we are all Cypriots bullshit is just another way of trying to get your own back just like 1963 to 1974.

Viewpoint, every single generation of Cypriots for the last 4+ centuries have suffered under the Turkish aggression and expansionism against our island. It is not just one event that happened long time ago. It is a constant attack against us that continues until today with you illegally and criminally occupying 1/3rd of Cyprus and you are looking for lame excuses to continue with the crimes against us.

[zan]

Piratis I apologise for what my great great great great great grandfather did but isnt it an awful long time to bear a grudge, makes me think that your we are all Cypriots bullshit is just another way of trying to get your own back just like 1963 to 1974.

Viewpoint, every single generation of Cypriots for the last 4+ centuries have suffered under the Turkish aggression and expansionism against our island. It is not just one event that happened long time ago. It is a constant attack against us that continues until today with you illegally and criminally occupying 1/3rd of Cyprus and you are looking for lame excuses to continue with the crimes against us.

And the one time that Cyprus was united with its first republic and guarantees to stop any other invasions you used that to kill and maim and turn the island upside down...And now you complain.....Funny guy.....

[Viewpoint]

Piratis I apologise for what my great great great great great grandfather did but isnt it an awful long time to bear a grudge, makes me think that your we are all Cypriots bullshit is just another way of trying to get your own back just like 1963 to 1974.

Viewpoint, every single generation of Cypriots for the last 4+ centuries have suffered under the Turkish aggression and expansionism against our island. It is not just one event that happened long time ago. It is a constant attack against us that continues until today with you illegally and criminally occupying 1/3rd of Cyprus and you are looking for lame excuses to continue with the crimes against us.

The only legally binding agreement you had and you had to try and change it, why? were we not all Cypriots back then?

[Piratis]

And sine when is the population of a country not allowed to even propose changes to the constitution of their own country? Where is anything wrong with this?

If you were Cypriots though you would not insist to be separated from the native population of this island. You would accept to be equal citizens without racist discriminations. You didn't accept this then, and you didn't accept this now.

Zan, the ones who kill and maim and turn the island upside down is non else than you, on many occasions.

[zan]

And sine when is the population of a country not allowed to even propose changes to the constitution of their own country? Where is anything wrong with this?

If you were Cypriots though you would not insist to be separated from the native population of this island. You would accept to be equal citizens without racist discriminations. You didn't accept this then, and you didn't accept this now.

Zan, the ones who kill and maim and turn the island upside down is non else than you, on many occasions.

Makarios proposed and then ignored the constitution and then took to killing to enforce his proposals mate so all that crap about just proposing just goes to show how you think. Perhaps when it comes to accepting anything, you should try accepting the truth and not try to blur the edges as you do.

[Viewpoint]

And sine when is the population of a country not allowed to even propose changes to the constitution of their own country? Where is anything wrong with this?

If you were Cypriots though you would not insist to be separated from the native population of this island. You would accept to be equal citizens without racist discriminations. You didn't accept this then, and you didn't accept this now.

Zan, the ones who kill and maim and turn the island upside down is non else than you, on many occasions.

The air back back then was hardly conducive to wanting to dilute a new constitution, after trust and understanding had been established then changes could have been put forward but with the enosis dream fresh in TCs minds and the dangers that entailed do you not think such action was wrong and did not support your thesis that we are all Cypriots? as you were clearly trying to make us more Greek than Cypriot.