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[insan]

OK, don't shout, we heard you ...

Though to be honest with you, I don't see it. Everybody knows that permanently partitioning Cyprus will give the GCs a massive motive to permanently veto Turkey's EU accession. So long as the US, the UK and others from whom you expect recognition want Turkey in the EU, don't expect an early "game over via recognition": The Americans and Europeans will do everything in their power to solve the Cyprus Problem, by forcing the two sides back on the negotiating table.

I agree with you that US led political powers will force for a solution. Apparently, they wait Tassos to reveal what changes he demands on Annan Plan. If his demands are rational and negotiable Turkey will not need other's pressure to return to negotiation table.

[insan]

After the referenda last year there were "rumors" about TRNC recognition and there were actual talks about giving money to the TCs and opening the borders to allow TCs to trade.

ALmost a year later and the only change I see is that people dont really care that GCs voted NO and TCs YES.

Slowly, slowly my friend. First you should be accustomed psychologically then phisically. You know elections, elections, elections have been taking place all around the world. It should be done like a hot knife through butter. See?

[Piratis]

Gul just meant that the Annan Plan would have been accepted by now

The aim of Turkey was and continues to be partition.
The problem of Turkey now is that RoC can block their entry to the EU.

The Annan plan was the answer to their aim/problem because it would partition Cyprus and remove the obstacle they have for EU at the same time.

Turks maxed their power in Copenhagen. They missed their chance, we were not stupid enough to vote "yes" in the referendum, and in the next 15 years they will be forced to make the compromises that until today they did not.

[insan]

Turks maxed their power in Copenhagen. They missed their chance, we were not stupid enough to vote "yes" in the referendum, and in the next 15 years they will be forced to make the compromises that until today they did not.

In your colorful dreams for the next 15 years...

[magikthrill]

Turks maxed their power in Copenhagen. They missed their chance, we were not stupid enough to vote "yes" in the referendum, and in the next 15 years they will be forced to make the compromises that until today they did not.

In your colorful dreams for the next 15 years...

I think maybe both of you are dreaming.

Withing the next 15 years unless a "power shift" has taken place, GCs will compromise much more than I believe they should. As the older generations are dying out the younger oens coming in are more likely to find a "solution" at any cost.

[turkcyp]

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[Piratis]

In 15 years there will not be an EU anyway.

Thats a theory.
Here is another one:

In 15 years there will be no Turkey, and we will be talking whether TCs are a minority, or if no TCs have actually remained and all of the Turkish speaking population is actually settlers that should be shipped back to Asia Minor.

[turkcyp]

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[efe]

piratis, deep under, i think this is what you think TCs are right? settlers who need to move back to anatolia. you can even go further, ship us to mongolia from anatolia. or even further, ship everyone (including greeks) to africa, the root of all civilizations.

this is the problem with GCs and Greeks in common. I was actually talking to a GC last week about the problem but he didint want to reply to me so it ended up being a short conversation..

CYPRUS IS NOT GREEK LAND! Even the so called Republic of Cyprus constitution states that the island is operated by TWO nations. GREEKS AND TURKS. Whenever i get into a argument with a GC, they always tlak like its their land, and we are like gypsies who are trying to take over their land, kick them out of cyprus etc. in fact, earlier, gcs were the ones who tried to kick turks out.

get this straight. it is not YOUR land ONLY. you have to ACCEPT to work with TURKS together.


this doesnt apply to GCs who do not have this kind of mentality. but trust me this is the general feeling i get.

peace

[Piratis]

Instead of accusing me of what you think i believe "deep under", just have a look at your actions and stop being such a hypocrite.

The Turks are the ones who performed ethnic cleansing on 1/3rd of the island and removed us from the lands that we have been living for 3500 years.

Why the removal of TCs from Cyprus sounds so bad for you while at the same time you see no problem with the removal of 200.000 GCs from their own land? Aren't you the ones that support that this removal of GCs was a "peace operation" and that it is impossible to accept for all of them to return back to their homes?

If you had no problem to remove us from our own land, why should we have a problem to do the same to you?