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[FreeSpirit]

[quote="miltiades]The Archbishop is a first class idiot [/quote]

Agree 101% he's done more harm to the Anglican church with his remarks than anyone before him, considering how the church is losing members you would think he'd know better.

[Tim Drayton]

[quote="miltiades]The Archbishop is a first class idiot [/quote]

Agree 101% he's done more harm to the Anglican church with his remarks than anyone before him, considering how the church is losing members you would think he'd know better.[/quote]

Even so, I think he has done us all a service in bringing this issue out into the open and provoking such outrage.

[miltiades]

The same stupid good for nothing self centred "politicians " that have ruined the country with their absurd actions are now standing up demanding Sharia f..ng law in the UK , not in the year 1400 but in 2008.There is no place for such outdated barbaric laws in the UK today.If any one should show respect for some Sharia laws , all contents must be considered , stoning , self mutilation , honour killings , bigamy and banning the consumption of the famous English breakfast of Egg and Bacon as well as the Pint and ofcourse the razor blade !!

[Tim Drayton]

The same stupid good for nothing self centred "politicians " that have ruined the country with their absurd actions are now standing up demanding Sharia f..ng law in the UK , not in the year 1400 but in 2008.There is no place for such outdated barbaric laws in the UK today.If any one should show respect for some Sharia laws , all contents must be considered , stoning , self mutilation , honour killings , bigamy and banning the consumption of the famous English breakfast of Egg and Bacon as well as the Pint and ofcourse the razor blade !!

Precisely. As our friend Qamersland has been preaching to us, Sharia is a total way of life. There is no such thing as the partial introduction of Sharia. It is all or nothing.

[kurupetos]

F. Muhammad and all f. muslims

[FreeSpirit]

As someone pointed out on the early evening news, the thin end of the wedge; give them an inch they'll soon want a mile.

[Bad Boy]

Just have a look at a map of the earth

And you will find Indonesia on the eastern side of the earth. The major cities of Indonesia are Java, Sumatra, Borneo and Saibil. As soon as dawn breaks on the eastern side of Saibil, at approximately 5:30 am local time, Fajar Azaan begins. Thousands of Muazzins in Indonesia begin reciting the Azaan. The process advances towards West Indonesia . One and a half hours after the Azaan has been completed in Saibil, it echoes in Jakarta .. Sumatra then follows suit and before this auspicious process of calling Azaan ends in Indonesia, it has already begun in Malaysia ..

Burma is next in line, and within an hour of its beginning in Jakarta, it reaches Dacca, the capital city of Bangladesh . After Bangladesh , it has already prevailed in western India , from Calcutta to Srinagar . It then advances towards Bombay and the environment of entire India resounds with this proclamation. Srinagar and Sialkot (a north city in Pakistan ) have the same timing for Azaan. The time difference between Sialkot , Quetta , and Karachi is forty minutes, and within this time, Fajar Aazaan is heard throughout Pakistan . Before it ends there, it has already begun in Afghanistan and Muscat.

The time difference between Muscat and Baghdad is one hour. Azaan resounds during this one hour in the environments of Hijaaz-e-Muqaddas (Holycities of Makkah and Madinah), Yemen , United Arab Emirates , Kuwait and Iraq. The time difference between Baghdad and Alexandria in Egypt is again one hour. Azaan continues to resound in Syria, Egypt, Somalia and Sudan during this hour. The time difference between eastern and western Turkey is one and a half hours, and during this Alexandria and Tripoli (capital of Libya ) are located at one hour's difference. The process of calling Azaan thus continues throughout the whole of Africa . Therefore, the proclamation of the Tawheed" and "Risaalat" that had begun in Indonesia reaches the Eastern Shore of the Atlantic Ocean after nine and half hours.

Prior to the Aazaan reaching the shores of the Atlantic, the process of "Zohar Azaan" has already started in east Indonesia , and before it reaches Dacca , "Asr Azaan" has started. This has hardly reached Jakarta one and half hours later, the time of "Maghrib" becomes due, and no sooner has "Maghrib" time reached Sumatra , the time for calling "Isha Aazaan" has commenced in Saibil! When the Muazzins of Indonesia are calling out "Fajar Azaan", the African Muazzins are calling the Azaan for Isha.

If we were to ponder over this phenomenon thoughtfully, we would conclude the amazing fact that there is not even a single moment when hundreds of thousands of Muazzins around the world are not reciting the Azaan on the surface of this earth. Subhaan Allah !!!

Even as you read this material right now, you can be sure there is Azaan somewhere !!!

[kurupetos]

F*** off!!!

[QAMERSLAND]

Well Sqamers.

Mischief making? I'm up for that, you could say "Well Fit na".

Threat of death? Bovvered!

Try acting out any of your musso nutjob fantasies and I'll move you closer to your maker!

Have a nice day.

rawk

The one who created me is my protector.

i will ask you to arrange a place to meet me when i will return to cyprus and you call upon any of your helper to help you but i will be alone Inshallah with the help of my creator and creator of all universe.

if not in this world. you will have your punishment on the day of judgement for spreading mischief in the land and God who is your creator will decide not me.

what maxium punishment your law can give in this world to Hitler who killed 6 million innocent jews?

maxium you will kill him once. will it be equal to the blood of 6 million jews?

God almighty says in the Quran that when the skin will be rosted, he will put new skin. God almighty may put 6 million times new skin to hitler to feel the pain and it will be justice

Sit and think carefully rawk. i am the one who wants to save you from hell fire not the one who is wishing because i will let you to do whatever you are doing if i were the one who wants you to go to hell fire.

Would you care to elaborate on the words:

"If not in this world ..."

Be careful. Cyprus is a civilised, law-based country. We are not under Sharia, where Muslims are automatically in the right and non-Muslims are automatically in the wrong. Threatening people is an offence here and if you continue in this vein you may find that it has serious consequences.

I respect the laws of Republic of Cyprus. i know that there is no sharia law here that is why i strive to implement the sharia with in myself for not to do something that is against the sharia and ofcourse it will never be against the Law of Cyprus.

but as you witnessed that Archbishop from England Dr Rowan William calling to adopt some sharia laws because even being a Christian, he witness the truth because he is an open mind person and studied the sharia law and found that sharia law has nothing wrong to impose in Britain.

Sharia laws are strict not to punish but to stop crimes.

For example. It is compulsory for every Muslim who has more than 85 grams of gold or equal saving over a year must pay atleat 2.5 % to poor so they will not be forced to Rob. According to united nation survey if 250 richest men in the word give 4 % of their wealth. The poverty will be finish from this world, and according to Islamic sharia law if 350 richest men give 2.5 % atleast which is minimum then the poverty will finish from this world and people do not need to rob. And after having everything, some one still want to rob will think 10 times before he attempts to rob. And still if some one do. When his hand will be chopped. It will be lesson for thousand other who will stop robbing.

In short, the sharia law is to stop people to do crimes not to punish them strictly.

When a rapist will know that he will have death penalty, will he rape?

A survey done in USA.

They asked rapists in the prison, do you like to carry weapon with you when you rape a woman?

Most of them answered that there is more longer prison for keeping weapons than rapping a woman. Therefore they don’t carry the weapon.

Does it sound good? Raping a woman has less punishment than to carry weapon?

It mean if their will be death penalty, they will think 10 times before rapping.

In short, the sharia law is to protect people to live in peace not to punish more people.

Sharia Law has been misunderstood. If someone’s daughter, sister or mother is raped and you asked him. What punishment you want to give to rapist? He will say, I want to kill him. And if Islam says that the rapist should have death penalty, they say what a barbaric law is it?

Why double standards?

[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=RPMbOQONl5I[/youtube]

Are we back to rape again?

I have made dozens of well-documented posts showing that Sharia law in Saudi Arabia permits the rape of housemaids to go unpunished; not only that, this same system of law punishes the victims. Have you read nothing that I have posted here?

There is no concept of rape in Sharia. There is only the offence of adultery. A man may have sex with one of his wives or one "whom his right hand possesses". The question of whether or not the woman consents is not addressed by Sharia law. If a man is legally entitled to have sex with her, she is obliged to submit.

By the way, where do you get the idea that Sharia condems racists to death? The punishment for adultery as laid down in the Quran is one hundred lashes, and a conviction is only possible if four witnesses are produced. I have quoted all the relevant passages to you before on these points.

Surely I don't need to repeat all of this.

Question: where do you get the idea that Sharia law condems rapists to death?

Answer: Mr Tim once again put an other allegation that there is no punishment of rapist in sharia Law. after reading the following answer. let's see if Mr Tim accept that he has no knowlege about Islam and he has wrong information from wrong source

"O ye who believe! Obey God, and obey the Apostle, and those charged with authority among you. If ye differ in anything among yourselves, refer it to God and His Apostle, if ye do believe in God and the Last Day: That is best, and most suitable for final determination. (The Noble Quran, 4:59)"

"God did confer a great favour on the believers when He sent among them an apostle from among themselves, rehearsing unto them the Signs of God, sanctifying them, and instructing them in Scripture and Wisdom, while, before that, they had been in manifest error. (The Noble Quran, 3:164)"



"So obey God, and obey His Apostle: but if ye turn back, the duty of Our Apostle is but to proclaim (the Message) clearly and openly. (The Noble Quran, 64:12)"

Since the punishment for rape doesn't exist in the Noble Quran, but exists in the Sayings of our beloved Prophet peace be upon him, then the verdict or law for punishing the rapist according to Noble Verses 4:59 and 4:83 above must come from our beloved Prophet's Sayings.

Let us look at what Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him said regarding this issue:

The following information was sent to me. Let us look at how Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him dealt with the rapists:

Narrated Wa'il ibn Hujr:

"When a woman went out in the time of the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) for prayer, a man attacked her and overpowered (raped) her. She shouted and he went off, and when a man came by, she said: That (man) did such and such to me. And when a company of the Emigrants came by, she said: That man did such and such to me. They went and seized the man whom they thought had had intercourse with her and brought him to her.

She said: Yes, this is he. Then they brought him to the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him). When he (the Prophet) was about to pass sentence, the man who (actually) had assaulted her stood up and said: Apostle of Allah, I am the man who did it to her.

He (the Prophet) said to the woman: Go away, for Allah has forgiven you. And about the man who had intercourse with her, he said: Stone him to death.

He also said: He has repented to such an extent that if the people of Medina had repented similarly, it would have been accepted from them. (Sunan Abu Dawud, Book 38, Number 4366)"

Saudi Arabia today applies the death penalty for the punishment of rape and other cases as well. The following quote was taken from an article from CNN.COM regarding the punishment of a rapist. He was punished to death:

"Saudi Arabia, the world's largest oil producer and Washington's closest Arab ally for more than a half century, follows a strict interpretation of Islam that calls for the death penalty for murder, rape, drug trafficking and armed robbery.
(http://www.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/meast/07/ ... index.html)"

Mr Tim is welcome to ask next question because it is my duty to answers the misconceptions about Islam

[humanist]

May God bless Muhammad and every other human being that walks on earth.