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Postby Tim Drayton » Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:24 pm

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rawk wrote:Well Sqamers.

Mischief making? I'm up for that, you could say "Well Fit na".

Threat of death? Bovvered!

Try acting out any of your musso nutjob fantasies and I'll move you closer to your maker!

Have a nice day.

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The one who created me is my protector.

i will ask you to arrange a place to meet me when i will return to cyprus and you call upon any of your helper to help you but i will be alone Inshallah with the help of my creator and creator of all universe.

if not in this world. you will have your punishment on the day of judgement for spreading mischief in the land and God who is your creator will decide not me.

what maxium punishment your law can give in this world to Hitler who killed 6 million innocent jews?

maxium you will kill him once. will it be equal to the blood of 6 million jews?

God almighty says in the Quran that when the skin will be rosted, he will put new skin. God almighty may put 6 million times new skin to hitler to feel the pain and it will be justice

Sit and think carefully rawk. i am the one who wants to save you from hell fire not the one who is wishing because i will let you to do whatever you are doing if i were the one who wants you to go to hell fire.


Would you care to elaborate on the words:

"If not in this world ..."

Be careful. Cyprus is a civilised, law-based country. We are not under Sharia, where Muslims are automatically in the right and non-Muslims are automatically in the wrong. Threatening people is an offence here and if you continue in this vein you may find that it has serious consequences.


I respect the laws of Republic of Cyprus. i know that there is no sharia law here that is why i strive to implement the sharia with in myself for not to do something that is against the sharia and ofcourse it will never be against the Law of Cyprus.

but as you witnessed that Archbishop from England Dr Rowan William calling to adopt some sharia laws because even being a Christian, he witness the truth because he is an open mind person and studied the sharia law and found that sharia law has nothing wrong to impose in Britain.

Sharia laws are strict not to punish but to stop crimes.

For example. It is compulsory for every Muslim who has more than 85 grams of gold or equal saving over a year must pay atleat 2.5 % to poor so they will not be forced to Rob. According to united nation survey if 250 richest men in the word give 4 % of their wealth. The poverty will be finish from this world, and according to Islamic sharia law if 350 richest men give 2.5 % atleast which is minimum then the poverty will finish from this world and people do not need to rob. And after having everything, some one still want to rob will think 10 times before he attempts to rob. And still if some one do. When his hand will be chopped. It will be lesson for thousand other who will stop robbing.

In short, the sharia law is to stop people to do crimes not to punish them strictly.

When a rapist will know that he will have death penalty, will he rape?

A survey done in USA.

They asked rapists in the prison, do you like to carry weapon with you when you rape a woman?

Most of them answered that there is more longer prison for keeping weapons than rapping a woman. Therefore they don’t carry the weapon.

Does it sound good? Raping a woman has less punishment than to carry weapon?

It mean if their will be death penalty, they will think 10 times before rapping.

In short, the sharia law is to protect people to live in peace not to punish more people.

Sharia Law has been misunderstood. If someone’s daughter, sister or mother is raped and you asked him. What punishment you want to give to rapist? He will say, I want to kill him. And if Islam says that the rapist should have death penalty, they say what a barbaric law is it?

Why double standards?

[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=RPMbOQONl5I[/youtube]


Are we back to rape again?

I have made dozens of well-documented posts showing that Sharia law in Saudi Arabia permits the rape of housemaids to go unpunished; not only that, this same system of law punishes the victims. Have you read nothing that I have posted here?

There is no concept of rape in Sharia. There is only the offence of adultery. A man may have sex with one of his wives or one "whom his right hand possesses". The question of whether or not the woman consents is not addressed by Sharia law. If a man is legally entitled to have sex with her, she is obliged to submit.

By the way, where do you get the idea that Sharia condems racists to death? The punishment for adultery as laid down in the Quran is one hundred lashes, and a conviction is only possible if four witnesses are produced. I have quoted all the relevant passages to you before on these points.

Surely I don't need to repeat all of this.
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Postby Tim Drayton » Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:43 pm

As usual, Qamersland is dodging the point by trying to return to rape.
The point is that

1 Many posts ago, he told us that Islam does not codone the killing of non-believers unless they engage in MISCHIEF MAKING.

2 In a more recent post, he accused Rawk of mischief making.

3 Very recently he said to Rawk "If you are not punished in this world ..."

My question was whether, when speaking of "mishief making" he was referring to the Arabic concept of "fitna". This is highly significant because fitna is a capital offence under Sharia, as evidenced by the following quote from the Quran:

2:193
And KILL them until there is no more Fitnah

If so, the comment "if you are not punished in this world" may be construed to constitute a death threat. Let's discuss this rather than going back over rape, where you were totally unable to refute any of the arguments I made.
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Postby Tim Drayton » Sun Feb 10, 2008 1:53 pm

Image

Image

Let us take a break and examine a couple of nice pictures.

The top picture is the coat of arms of the British town of Oldham. Apparently the Muslim minority living there strongly object to it because it includes the image of an owl, which they consider to be representational art and thus an insult to Islam. The local authorities there actually began to remove bollards bearing this owl symbol from the streets following complaints from local Muslims.

The second image shows a banknote from the United Arab Emirates, a country under Sharia law. Notice that this banknote bears the image of a falcon.

So why when a country under Sharia law can depict a bird on its banknotes, do Muslims who constitute three percent of the country's population object to a bird being included in a town's coat of arms?

Qamersland, you really should think about points like this and you will begin to understand why you are getting such a hostile reaction here.
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Postby FreeSpirit » Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:16 pm

QAMERSLAND wrote:but as you witnessed that Archbishop from England Dr Rowan William calling to adopt some sharia laws because even being a Christian, he witness the truth because he is an open mind person and studied the sharia law and found that sharia law has nothing wrong to impose in Britain. ]

Then you must have read a different version of his than we heard, he certainly would not wish women to be taken into the centre of Wembley
stadium and have their brains blown out.
Can you imagine before every saturday football match people being marched into the centre circle to have their limbs cut off climaxing with women lined for their brains to be blown out.

Some religion some peace, next thing we'll have the Roman Catholics demanding that the Inquisition reintroduced.

Better still let's employ a Witchfinder General; he'll then declare All None Christians heretics and have them burnt at the stake.

Hmmm I like that one, think I'll apply for the job. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby miltiades » Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:24 pm

This has been going on for ever now. Religion Is not only the opium , of mostly the third world and particularly the illiterate , it is also the Cancer that eats away at humanity.The stupidity surrounding archaic , stone age customs , the viciousness that often is exhibited in the name of God , the NON EXISTENT creation of illiterates who convinced millions more of equally illiterate people. Of all religions the warped and sick interpretation of one brand is nauseating f..ng Pakistani illiterate piece of garbage who blew himself up amongst innocents was convinced by this sick ideology that HIS ACTIONS WERE HOLY. Holy shit I say !!
Get rid of religion thats what I say , and I hope Turkey does not give in to the theocratic peasants.
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Postby miltiades » Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:29 pm

FreeSpirit wrote:
QAMERSLAND wrote:but as you witnessed that Archbishop from England Dr Rowan William calling to adopt some sharia laws because even being a Christian, he witness the truth because he is an open mind person and studied the sharia law and found that sharia law has nothing wrong to impose in Britain. ]

Then you must have read a different version of his than we heard, he certainly would not wish women to be taken into the centre of Wembley
stadium and have their brains blown out.
Can you imagine before every saturday football match people being marched into the centre circle to have their limbs cut off climaxing with women lined for their brains to be blown out.

Some religion some peace, next thing we'll have the Roman Catholics demanding that the Inquisition reintroduced.

Better still let's employ a Witchfinder General; he'll then declare All None Christians heretics and have them burnt at the stake.

Hmmm I like that one, think I'll apply for the job. :lol: :lol: :lol:

The Archbishop is a first class idiot , you can see that by the intence efforts that he makes to increase the size of his eyebrows, what a plonker suggesting that we introduce into our land customs and practices that WE the people of this country find abhorent.Our daughters are not the protectors of our honour by keeping their legs crossed , they are not forced into marriages , we dont shoot the barber and we have the freedom to shout out that god does not exist .Sharia law belongs in the stone age in in Brittain. This is the same Sharia that the Taliban practiced , the Iranians practice and justify stoning. No Sir , take your Sharia laws and stick them up yours.
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Postby shahmaran » Sun Feb 10, 2008 2:49 pm

It is an utter head fuck to search for any logic amongst Islam and similar religions, nor it is possible to argue with them since they will accept nothing that dismisses their belief, even if these are hard solid scientific facts that they too rely on without even realising. It is as good as discussing advanced mathematics with an illiterate baboon who think he knows it all.

I say fuck them, Ataturk knew there was no place for a debate so he killed them all, and good he did, fuck the religious backward scumbags, the only thing they are good for is ruining eye sight and holding back humanity with absolute rubbish. Islam is about peace? Well it has caused anything BUT peace so it does not matter anymore what it is all about, its been 2 thousand years for fucks sake, when will you get the point and stop denying your human nature?

I can do nothing but watch their ignorance with utter disgust and hope that i will live the day to see their entire fantasy world crumble before their eyes so they can remember how much agony they have caused the BILLIONS of people throughout history for absolutely nothing but by supporting a wank fucking ideology called God and afterlife.

FUCK THE LOT OF YOU, specially the preachers of such wankology like Qamersland!

I have just watch Persepolis followed a mobile phone recording of a religious mob executing a young woman by trying to kick her to death and eventually finishing her off by crushing her skull with a huge brick, simply because she was not wearing a headscarf, so excuse me but i am fucking pissed off!!!

And I am more than happy to forward this clip to anyone who thinks they have the stomach for it, see i can preach too Qamersland you cock sucking twat! :evil:
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Postby miltiades » Sun Feb 10, 2008 3:01 pm

shahmaran wrote:It is an utter head fuck to search for any logic amongst Islam and similar religions, nor it is possible to argue with them since they will accept nothing that dismisses their belief, even if these are hard solid scientific facts that they too rely on without even realising. It is as good as discussing advanced mathematics with an illiterate baboon who think he knows it all.

I say fuck them, Ataturk knew there was no place for a debate so he killed them all, and good he did, fuck the religious backward scumbags, the only thing they are good for is ruining eye sight and holding back humanity with absolute rubbish. Islam is about peace? Well it has caused anything BUT peace so it does not matter anymore what it is all about, its been 2 thousand years for fucks sake, when will you get the point and stop denying your human nature?

I can do nothing but watch their ignorance with utter disgust and hope that i will live the day to see their entire fantasy world crumble before their eyes so they can remember how much agony they have caused the BILLIONS of people throughout history for absolutely nothing but by supporting a wank fucking ideology called God and afterlife.

FUCK THE LOT OF YOU, specially the preachers of such wankology like Qamersland!

I have just watch Persepolis followed a mobile phone recording of a religious mob executing a young woman by trying to kick her to death and eventually finishing her off by crushing her skull with a huge brick, simply because she was not wearing a headscarf, so excuse me but i am fucking pissed off!!!
And I am more than happy to forward this clip to anyone who thinks they have the stomach for it, see i can preach too Qamersland you cock sucking twat! :evil:

I agree 100% and let us hope that Turkey never goes back to the era that the great man changed.
Let us also remember the school girls in Saudi Arabia , a few years back , who run out of their blazing school without their headscarfs and the f..ng religious police sent them back into the inferno !!! They perished and the illeterates rejoiced .
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Postby shahmaran » Sun Feb 10, 2008 3:12 pm

I cannot believe that Turkey is wasting her time discussing a god dam headscarf issue for the past month when they have so many other issues to deal with, i mean there is not 1 decent newspaper that is not filled with the threat that is coming because of these rotten fools, millions of people protesting on the streets, i don't understand why the army hasn't done anything already.

Is this what democracy is doing to them?

I think if the whole world was under one great democracy we would all be literally FUCKED because the majority are these backward morons!
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Postby miltiades » Sun Feb 10, 2008 3:25 pm

The majority people in this world are greatly influenced by religion to the point of absurdity.
Take this " divine " intervention in the USA where a little baby was thrown by the recent tornado some 30 feet away and survived. Even medical people are calling it a miracle , never mind that the baby's mother perished , the "divine" intervention it seems only covered the baby !!!
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