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[FreeSpirit]

[As many people said that I am promoting Islam here. Is it wrong to speak the truth? It is the same as

If I see someone raping a woman. Should I not stop him or atleast advise him?

If I see someone robbing. Should I not stop him or atleast advise him?

If I see someone oppressing or killing the weak and innocents, should I not stop him or atleast advise him?

If I see someone having ditch in front, should I not stop him or atleast advise him to be carefull?

I am not here just to advise you and you all have free choice.

1) If I see someone raping a woman. Should I not stop him or atleast advise him? "No my friend not like that! not her mouth for heavens sake"

2) If I see someone robbing. Should I not stop him or atleast advise him?
"No my friend hit them over the head first!"

3) If I see someone oppressing or killing the weak and innocents, should I not stop him or atleast advise him? "No my muslim friend if you do it by remote control you won't get killed!"

4) If I see someone having a piss in front, should I not stop him or atleast advise him to be carefull? " No my Pakistani friend don't piss on the pavement this is not Pakistan you know!"

[Get Real!]

[As many people said that I am promoting Islam here. Is it wrong to speak the truth? It is the same as

If I see someone raping a woman. Should I not stop him or atleast advise him?

If I see someone robbing. Should I not stop him or atleast advise him?

If I see someone oppressing or killing the weak and innocents, should I not stop him or atleast advise him?

If I see someone having ditch in front, should I not stop him or atleast advise him to be carefull?

I am not here just to advise you and you all have free choice.

1) If I see someone raping a woman. Should I not stop him or atleast advise him? "No my friend not like that! not her mouth for heavens sake"

2) If I see someone robbing. Should I not stop him or atleast advise him?
"No my friend hit them over the head first!"

3) If I see someone oppressing or killing the weak and innocents, should I not stop him or atleast advise him? "No my muslim friend if you do it by remote control you won't get killed!"

4) If I see someone having a piss in front, should I not stop him or atleast advise him to be carefull? " No my Pakistani friend don't piss on the pavement this is not Pakistan you know!"

If I see someone change his alias, just because he moved to Cyprus and wants to make a fresh start, should I not remind him that he is still the same person?

[FreeSpirit]

[As many people said that I am promoting Islam here. Is it wrong to speak the truth? It is the same as

If I see someone raping a woman. Should I not stop him or atleast advise him?

If I see someone robbing. Should I not stop him or atleast advise him?

If I see someone oppressing or killing the weak and innocents, should I not stop him or atleast advise him?

If I see someone having ditch in front, should I not stop him or atleast advise him to be carefull?

I am not here just to advise you and you all have free choice.

1) If I see someone raping a woman. Should I not stop him or atleast advise him? "No my friend not like that! not her mouth for heavens sake"

2) If I see someone robbing. Should I not stop him or atleast advise him?
"No my friend hit them over the head first!"

3) If I see someone oppressing or killing the weak and innocents, should I not stop him or atleast advise him? "No my muslim friend if you do it by remote control you won't get killed!"

4) If I see someone having a piss in front, should I not stop him or atleast advise him to be carefull? " No my Pakistani friend don't piss on the pavement this is not Pakistan you know!"

If I see someone change his alias, just because he moved to Cyprus and wants to make a fresh start, should I not remind him that he is still the same person?

Actualy I have spoken to Admin there was a problem logging on so I re registered, send Admin a message if you wish.
Obviously I couldn't re register as Southerner.

[Get Real!]

If I see someone change his alias, just because he moved to Cyprus and wants to make a fresh start, should I not remind him that he is still the same person?

Actualy I have spoken to Admin there was a problem logging on so I re registered, send Admin a message if you wish. Obviously I couldn't re register as Southerner.

I'm glad you're honest... Hmm, let me guess your next alias... "Southern Spirit"?

[Tim Drayton]

Sqamers! You are really getting quite paranoic. No-one is trying to destroy you or track you down.

Yes, I believe you have caused Islam to be held up to ridicule by using this forum, and that could cause offence to other more moderate Muslims. But all in all you have been very entertaining, but you appear to have this fixation with either converting me to Islam, or failing that preventing me from going to Hell!

Please take a rest, I sold my soul to the Devil many years ago and got a pretty good deal at the time. He is quite a nice chap when you get to know him. His name Lucifer comes from the word root to make clear or enlighten.

He knows quite a bit about your Mohammed, taught him a few things. Mind you, he did use the guise of another angel at the time. Word roots are interesting, doesn't Allah derive from the word for the Moon god.

Never mind, perhaps we could send the Archbishop of Canterbury to Limassol. You could probably use another barking old beardie. He's as mad as the rest of them.

Now don't forget to take your medication, and have a nice lie down. Don't worry about the Hell Fires and Uncle rawk. The road to Hell is paved with good intentions!

rawk

We will all be judged by our intentions. God alone knows my intention why I am on this forum. Allah swt does not need me or others to promote Islam because It is not my property or anyone else but Allah’s. Allah is the word in Arabic for God.

I have been trying my best according to my weak knowledge as I am just a student of Islam and comparative religions including Atheism. And may be I could not convey the message very well because the English is not my mother tongue as yours but I tried my best.


As many people said that I am promoting Islam here. Is it wrong to speak the truth? It is the same as

If I see someone raping a woman. Should I not stop him or atleast advise him?

If I see someone robbing. Should I not stop him or atleast advise him?

If I see someone oppressing or killing the weak and innocents, should I not stop him or atleast advise him?

If I see someone having ditch in front, should I not stop him or atleast advise him to be carefull?

I am not here just to advise you and you all have free choice.


Ok Dear brother rawk. If you are happy with your friend devil. What can I say? I will continue praying as I just did before I read your post while prostrating that may our creator opens your heart to leave devil’s friendship and make friendship with our creator.

Have a good time and wish to see you somewhere to have a cup of coffee to listen your philosophy of life. We never know may be we have met somewhere already. I have many friends from Royal air force, Dhekeliya, Akrotiri and Episkopi Garrison

The reading for the day (Quran 17/45-46)

"When thou dost recite the Qur’an, We put, between thee and those who believe not in the Hereafter, a veil invisible:
And We put coverings over their hearts (and minds) lest they should understand the Qur’an, and deafness into their ears: when thou dost commemorate thy Lord and Him alone in the Qur’an, they turn on their backs, fleeing (from the Truth)."

Interpretation. Your own God is telling you through the medium of Muhammad that you are wasting your time trying to preach to no-believers. When are you going to get this message?

[Tim Drayton]

Well Sqamers.

Mischief making? I'm up for that, you could say "Well Fit na".

Threat of death? Bovvered!

Try acting out any of your musso nutjob fantasies and I'll move you closer to your maker!

Have a nice day.

rawk

The one who created me is my protector.

i will ask you to arrange a place to meet me when i will return to cyprus and you call upon any of your helper to help you but i will be alone Inshallah with the help of my creator and creator of all universe.

if not in this world. you will have your punishment on the day of judgement for spreading mischief in the land and God who is your creator will decide not me.

what maxium punishment your law can give in this world to Hitler who killed 6 million innocent jews?

maxium you will kill him once. will it be equal to the blood of 6 million jews?

God almighty says in the Quran that when the skin will be rosted, he will put new skin. God almighty may put 6 million times new skin to hitler to feel the pain and it will be justice

Sit and think carefully rawk. i am the one who wants to save you from hell fire not the one who is wishing because i will let you to do whatever you are doing if i were the one who wants you to go to hell fire.

Would you care to elaborate on the words:

"If not in this world ..."

Be careful. Cyprus is a civilised, law-based country. We are not under Sharia, where Muslims are automatically in the right and non-Muslims are automatically in the wrong. Threatening people is an offence here and if you continue in this vein you may find that it has serious consequences.

[QAMERSLAND]

[As many people said that I am promoting Islam here. Is it wrong to speak the truth? It is the same as

If I see someone raping a woman. Should I not stop him or atleast advise him?

If I see someone robbing. Should I not stop him or atleast advise him?

If I see someone oppressing or killing the weak and innocents, should I not stop him or atleast advise him?

If I see someone having ditch in front, should I not stop him or atleast advise him to be carefull?

I am not here just to advise you and you all have free choice.

1) If I see someone raping a woman. Should I not stop him or atleast advise him? "No my friend not like that! not her mouth for heavens sake"

2) If I see someone robbing. Should I not stop him or atleast advise him?
"No my friend hit them over the head first!"

3) If I see someone oppressing or killing the weak and innocents, should I not stop him or atleast advise him? "No my muslim friend if you do it by remote control you won't get killed!"

4) If I see someone having a piss in front, should I not stop him or atleast advise him to be carefull? " No my Pakistani friend don't piss on the pavement this is not Pakistan you know!"

Once again you tried to give wrong meaning . i meant to advise them is to ask them to stop it if i have no power to stop them with my hands but it is the lowest level of faith.

for example there is someone having guns in their hands and can kill you or the victim then only you should advise them to stop otherwise one must stop with his hand. and if you have gun, you should fight to stop them or in the present time to inform the law enforcing agencies.

[QAMERSLAND]

Well Sqamers.

Mischief making? I'm up for that, you could say "Well Fit na".

Threat of death? Bovvered!

Try acting out any of your musso nutjob fantasies and I'll move you closer to your maker!

Have a nice day.

rawk

The one who created me is my protector.

i will ask you to arrange a place to meet me when i will return to cyprus and you call upon any of your helper to help you but i will be alone Inshallah with the help of my creator and creator of all universe.

if not in this world. you will have your punishment on the day of judgement for spreading mischief in the land and God who is your creator will decide not me.

what maxium punishment your law can give in this world to Hitler who killed 6 million innocent jews?

maxium you will kill him once. will it be equal to the blood of 6 million jews?

God almighty says in the Quran that when the skin will be rosted, he will put new skin. God almighty may put 6 million times new skin to hitler to feel the pain and it will be justice

Sit and think carefully rawk. i am the one who wants to save you from hell fire not the one who is wishing because i will let you to do whatever you are doing if i were the one who wants you to go to hell fire.

Would you care to elaborate on the words:

"If not in this world ..."

Be careful. Cyprus is a civilised, law-based country. We are not under Sharia, where Muslims are automatically in the right and non-Muslims are automatically in the wrong. Threatening people is an offence here and if you continue in this vein you may find that it has serious consequences.

I respect the laws of Republic of Cyprus. i know that there is no sharia law here that is why i strive to implement the sharia with in myself for not to do something that is against the sharia and ofcourse it will never be against the Law of Cyprus.

but as you witnessed that Archbishop from England Dr Rowan William calling to adopt some sharia laws because even being a Christian, he witness the truth because he is an open mind person and studied the sharia law and found that sharia law has nothing wrong to impose in Britain.

Sharia laws are strict not to punish but to stop crimes.

For example. It is compulsory for every Muslim who has more than 85 grams of gold or equal saving over a year must pay atleat 2.5 % to poor so they will not be forced to Rob. According to united nation survey if 250 richest men in the word give 4 % of their wealth. The poverty will be finish from this world, and according to Islamic sharia law if 350 richest men give 2.5 % atleast which is minimum then the poverty will finish from this world and people do not need to rob. And after having everything, some one still want to rob will think 10 times before he attempts to rob. And still if some one do. When his hand will be chopped. It will be lesson for thousand other who will stop robbing.

In short, the sharia law is to stop people to do crimes not to punish them strictly.

When a rapist will know that he will have death penalty, will he rape?

A survey done in USA.

They asked rapists in the prison, do you like to carry weapon with you when you rape a woman?

Most of them answered that there is more longer prison for keeping weapons than rapping a woman. Therefore they don’t carry the weapon.

Does it sound good? Raping a woman has less punishment than to carry weapon?

It mean if their will be death penalty, they will think 10 times before rapping.

In short, the sharia law is to protect people to live in peace not to punish more people.

Sharia Law has been misunderstood. If someone’s daughter, sister or mother is raped and you asked him. What punishment you want to give to rapist? He will say, I want to kill him. And if Islam says that the rapist should have death penalty, they say what a barbaric law is it?

Why double standards?

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[FreeSpirit]

[Once again you tried to give wrong meaning . i meant to advise them is to ask them to stop it if i have no power to stop them with my hands but it is the lowest level of faith. .

And you've just given the best reason why we treat the koran as a load mumbo jumbo, it is written in an out of date language with stupid and irellevant terminology and open to many ways of interpretation.

Until the koran is universaly translated with ALL sects using the same version it will hold little or no credence in a civilised world.

Do you honestly think that the UK or any civilised country would accept your clerics over ruling a decision made in a civil/criminal court and sentence someone to death who has been freed by the civil court.

The above is what has just happened in Afghanistan that I have previously asked you about.

[FreeSpirit]

A man called mohamed has just been arrested after a headless body was found, several others have also been arrested, all muslims.

Several muslims and one human have been arrested for for beating a man up outside his place of work, he was left in the road whereupon a van with two muslim women inside was deliberately driven over him and in doing so killed him.

These events took place in the UK, one in my hometown.

Some religion some peace.