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Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Feb 04, 2008 4:30 pm

purdey wrote:Tim,I think you will find there are more Syrians living in and around Limassol then there are Turkish Cypriots.


Yes, you will see that I made that point myself above.
However, the fact remains that mosques like the Grand Mosque in Limassol are currently being looked after by the Turkish Property Commission on behalf of the Turkish Cypriot community and it seems wrong to me that, as the most central mosque in Limassol, it appears to be in the hands of people who have turned their backs on Turkish Cypriots and their values.
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Postby shahmaran » Mon Feb 04, 2008 4:32 pm

You cant find any Turkish Cypriot Imams simply because most Turkish Cypriots don't give a toss about the depths of Islam, they are probably the "lightest" Muslim people, if at all, you can find in the world.

I, as a TC who is living in a town of the TRNC which holds the biggest concentration of extremist Muslims due to the fact that their leader is my neighbour, can tell you that not a single local takes them seriously nor opposes their existence, his followers consists of nothing but Westerners and also Turkish immigrants who make up only a tiny percent of his "Nakshibendi clan".

Sharia law will never get a chance to survive in Cyprus, nor in Turkey, so you might as well pack your shit now Qamersland :lol:
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Postby purdey » Mon Feb 04, 2008 4:35 pm

To be fair Tim I have little or no knowledge of what goes on in the Mosque in Limassol.However I do know several people who do frequent the Mosque on a regular basis.Extremeists there are not.
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Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:26 pm

purdey wrote:To be fair Tim I have little or no knowledge of what goes on in the Mosque in Limassol.However I do know several people who do frequent the Mosque on a regular basis.Extremeists there are not.


I am glad to hear this. As I said above, if Muslims come to Cyprus for economic reasons and wish to practice their faith, that's fine. However, if certain people are coming here with the specific aim of propagating Sharia, an ideology for which there is absolutely no constituency in Cyprus, then that is a different matter altogether.
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Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Feb 04, 2008 5:54 pm

shahmaran wrote:You cant find any Turkish Cypriot Imams simply because most Turkish Cypriots don't give a toss about the depths of Islam, they are probably the "lightest" Muslim people, if at all, you can find in the world.

I, as a TC who is living in a town of the TRNC which holds the biggest concentration of extremist Muslims due to the fact that their leader is my neighbour, can tell you that not a single local takes them seriously nor opposes their existence, his followers consists of nothing but Westerners and also Turkish immigrants who make up only a tiny percent of his "Nakshibendi clan".

Sharia law will never get a chance to survive in Cyprus, nor in Turkey, so you might as well pack your shit now Qamersland :lol:


It is not quıte that simple, Shahmaran. The Turkish Cypriot Ministry of Religious Affairs has appointed Oğuz Metiner as imam of Limassol. Metiner apparently speaks Turkish, Greek, Arabic and English and so appears to have the linguistic resources to enable him to deal with virtually all Muslims living in Limassol. The fact remains that the Grand Mosque in Limassol must be Turkish Cypriot Evkaf property so I find it strange that the imam officially appointed by the Turkish Cypriot authorities appears to be shut out of this the main mosque in Limassol. I am curious to know who appoints the officials currently running this mosque, and whether the Turkish Cypriot religious authorities have any say in the matter.

As you point out, I am sure virtually no Turkish Cypriots living in Limassol can give a toss about this situation because they are not particularly religious, but it still does not seem right to me.

The thing is that people like Qamersland have little interest in what Turkish Cypriots, Muslims who have been living on this island for 450 years, think. Just look at his website about Islam in Cyprus which makes not the slightest reference to Turkish Cypriot Muslims.

http://www.cyprus-islam.co.nr/
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Postby FreeSpirit » Mon Feb 04, 2008 6:05 pm

purdey wrote:Tim,I think you will find there are more Syrians living in and around Limassol then there are Turkish Cypriots.


Aren't they the ones running the twin cab car smuggling ring, stealing Toyota Hilux twin cabs around the island, cutting them up and shipping them in containers to Syria?

YOU MUST KNOW THIS MAN/MUSLIM (PEACE BE UPON HIM) HE'LL STEAL YOUR TWIN CAB.

Courtesy of Quamerslands Car Smuggling ring, Toyotas a speciality.
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Postby purdey » Mon Feb 04, 2008 6:54 pm

Not another nationality to have a go at..
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Postby QAMERSLAND » Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:39 pm

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QAMERSLAND wrote:Islam is not the property of Arabs or turks but it is for all human being. if you revert to Islam,


Wrong again, to revert to islam means that you left islam and wish to rejoin.
I'm quite sure that Rawk, Bill and myself have never been muslims.

Your sentence to be correct should read "Islam is not the property of Arabs or turks but it is for all human being. if you convert to Islam"


thank you Freespirit, you are right according to the knowledge you have about Islam. i would like to tell you why i used the world revert instead of convert. In Quran Almighty God says that every child on this earth born as muslim(one who submit his/her will to the will of his/creator) and parents who make them christians, Jews, hindu, bhudist etc. whenever some one from any other religion accept Islam. we call it such person as revert to his origianl faith on which he/she was born.


this is why i consider all human beings as my brothers and sisters in humanity and we all share comon grand grand parents. Adam and Eve.

May Our creator guide us to live in peace
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Postby Eliko » Mon Feb 04, 2008 7:50 pm

QAMERSLAND, I am sure that those members who have expressed such strong opinions in condemnation of the faith of Islam, will be quite shocked to learn that (providing they have never embraced an alternative) they are Muslims themselves. :shock:

Many profess to be of no faith at all (including myself unfortunately), perhaps miltiades should now grow a beard and start behaving himself. :lol:
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Postby shahmaran » Mon Feb 04, 2008 8:49 pm

Well if we all come from Adam and Eve, then where did the black people, or the Chinese people come from Qamersland?

Surely it is impossible for 2 white people to make black or Chinese kids, and i wont even go into the well known biological consequences of inter-family marriage, regardless of the fact that it is pretty much impossible (considering the life span of a human being) for 2 people to kick off the entire human race.

Would you seriously care to explain please?

In fact, you explain this to me with rationality and logic, and i swear on my life that tomorrow i will go to a Mosque and "revert" back to Islam and never question anything about existence ever again.

I will throw away the dozens of books i have about philosophers and scientists and every other one of its likes where people have devoted their entire lives for centuries in trying to answer the questions that man kind has never been able to answer, and i will only keep the 1 book that can explain everything about everything, the Kuran-i Kerim!

I am very serious!
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