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Postby BC Numismatics » Sun Feb 03, 2008 11:45 am

Miltiades,there's never been any such thing as a 'united' Ireland.Northern Ireland is where the Scots originally came from.The notion of a 'united' Ireland is a braindead pipedream that has been dreamt up by Sinn Fein/I.R.A. - the isle of Ireland's Nazis.

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Postby QAMERSLAND » Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:25 pm

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Well dodged Sqamers,

Stop faffing about. What's the old beardie up to in the video? Why are the others tapping their heads and joining in?

TRY ANSWERING A DIRECT QUESTION!

Hello! Hello!

Sqamers. Come out wherever you are!

rawk




It is just another attempt to malign Islam but i assure you that there is nothing in Islam to harm or beat oneself for any reason. infact it is prohibited to do any act to harm oneself or others whether it is by beating, smoking, drinking or anything.

this video is taken probably from Shias but it has nothing to do with true Islamic teaching. we Muslim check any act done with Quran and Authentic Hadith.

If you want to know Islam go to root source of Islam which is Quran.

Do not judge the Car by driver!

The best example of Muslim is Prophet Muhammad Peace be upon him. you must know him very well to know true Islam.

i am not against the west but i will agree what ever is good in west and i will disagree and point out what is bad in west because i have to be fully just not partly as you are witness that i always condemn to Muslims too if they are wrong.

Muslims by God's grace have no problem in Cyprus because Cypriots are friendly with Muslims. there are some misconception among Cypriot because of Turks because they don't know that Turkish society is not rightly guided Islamic Society. Cyprus has very good relations with Islamic countries in the region.
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Is Terrorism A Muslim Monopoly?

Postby QAMERSLAND » Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:30 pm

Is Terrorism A Muslim Monopoly?

[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=M-fNo8cDCt8[/youtube]
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Postby Tim Drayton » Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:59 pm

QAMERSLAND wrote:
rawk wrote:
Bill wrote:
Well dodged Sqamers,

Stop faffing about. What's the old beardie up to in the video? Why are the others tapping their heads and joining in?

TRY ANSWERING A DIRECT QUESTION!

Hello! Hello!

Sqamers. Come out wherever you are!

rawk




It is just another attempt to malign Islam but i assure you that there is nothing in Islam to harm or beat oneself for any reason. infact it is prohibited to do any act to harm oneself or others whether it is by beating, smoking, drinking or anything.

this video is taken probably from Shias but it has nothing to do with true Islamic teaching. we Muslim check any act done with Quran and Authentic Hadith.

If you want to know Islam go to root source of Islam which is Quran.

Do not judge the Car by driver!

The best example of Muslim is Prophet Muhammad Peace be upon him. you must know him very well to know true Islam.

i am not against the west but i will agree what ever is good in west and i will disagree and point out what is bad in west because i have to be fully just not partly as you are witness that i always condemn to Muslims too if they are wrong.

Muslims by God's grace have no problem in Cyprus because Cypriots are friendly with Muslims. there are some misconception among Cypriot because of Turks because they don't know that Turkish society is not rightly guided Islamic Society. Cyprus has very good relations with Islamic countries in the region.


Re: "Turkish society is not rightly guided Islamic Society"

You seem to ignore the fact that there is a Muslim Turkish Cypriot community in Cyprus which has been established here for over four centuries. Turkish Cypriots are staunch supporters of Atatürk's concept of a secular state. Until you can provide a counter-example, I will categorically state that you will not find a single Turkish Cypriot who supports the adoption of Sharia law, which is a key component of the vision of Islam you promote.

It is curious to note that when on your website "Islam-Cyprus" you list the mosques in Cyprus, you ignore the existence of hundreds of functioning mosques in the north of the island.

Out of interest, I phoned the contact number for the Grand Mosque in Limassol given on your site and tried speaking in Turkish. The person answering the phone could speak no Turkish. It emerged that he was the imam of the mosque, and could only speak Arabic and a little English. He said that he was from Syria. I can't help feeling that this is wrong. After all, this mosque in common with all the historical mosques in the south of Cyprus is administered by the Turkish Property Commission for the benefit of Turkish Cypriots. There is a relatively large Turkish Cypriot community in Limassol. Isn't this primarily their mosque? I accept that there is also a large number of Syrian workers in this area, and they are perfectly entitled to practise theirt religion here, but surely the Grand Mosque in Limassol should principally be catering for the needs of Turkish Cypriots? And if this mosque has been infiltrated by extremists, then something is wrong. Turkish Cypriots are probably the most moderate and secular Muslims in the world, and surely a mosque which is being administered in the name of this community should be promoting a philosophy which accords with the views of Turkish Cypriots.
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[b]And this is what you would have us convert to [/b]

Postby FreeSpirit » Sun Feb 03, 2008 2:31 pm

QAMERSLAND wrote:
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QAMERSLAND wrote:["there is no compulsion in religion, truth stand out clear from error" Quran
I it is as you have written above then why has a young muslim man been sentenced to death by a muslim court in Afghanistan for downloading anti islamic material from the intenet.
What about his human rights, his freedom of speach and freedom of expression?


i have not listen about the above incident that you have mentioned so i will not comment without knowing it because it will not be fair to comment without knowing the details.

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I'm very surprised that you haven't heard about it because it has caused a mass diplomatic incident with many countries incensed by such medieval barbarism, it seems nothing has changed in Afghanistan where the islamic church rules and any slight indiscretion results in sentence of death.
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Postby QAMERSLAND » Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:05 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
QAMERSLAND wrote:
rawk wrote:
Bill wrote:
Well dodged Sqamers,

Stop faffing about. What's the old beardie up to in the video? Why are the others tapping their heads and joining in?

TRY ANSWERING A DIRECT QUESTION!

Hello! Hello!


Sqamers. Come out wherever you are!

rawk




It is just another attempt to malign Islam but i assure you that there is nothing in Islam to harm or beat oneself for any reason. infact it is prohibited to do any act to harm oneself or others whether it is by beating, smoking, drinking or anything.

this video is taken probably from Shias but it has nothing to do with true Islamic teaching. we Muslim check any act done with Quran and Authentic Hadith.

If you want to know Islam go to root source of Islam which is Quran.

Do not judge the Car by driver!

The best example of Muslim is Prophet Muhammad Peace be upon him. you must know him very well to know true Islam.

i am not against the west but i will agree what ever is good in west and i will disagree and point out what is bad in west because i have to be fully just not partly as you are witness that i always condemn to Muslims too if they are wrong.

Muslims by God's grace have no problem in Cyprus because Cypriots are friendly with Muslims. there are some misconception among Cypriot because of Turks because they don't know that Turkish society is not rightly guided Islamic Society. Cyprus has very good relations with Islamic countries in the region.


Re: "Turkish society is not rightly guided Islamic Society"

You seem to ignore the fact that there is a Muslim Turkish Cypriot community in Cyprus which has been established here for over four centuries. Turkish Cypriots are staunch supporters of Atatürk's concept of a secular state. Until you can provide a counter-example, I will categorically state that you will not find a single Turkish Cypriot who supports the adoption of Sharia law, which is a key component of the vision of Islam you promote.

It is curious to note that when on your website "Islam-Cyprus" you list the mosques in Cyprus, you ignore the existence of hundreds of functioning mosques in the north of the island.

Out of interest, I phoned the contact number for the Grand Mosque in Limassol given on your site and tried speaking in Turkish. The person answering the phone could speak no Turkish. It emerged that he was the imam of the mosque, and could only speak Arabic and a little English. He said that he was from Syria. I can't help feeling that this is wrong. After all, this mosque in common with all the historical mosques in the south of Cyprus is administered by the Turkish Property Commission for the benefit of Turkish Cypriots. There is a relatively large Turkish Cypriot community in Limassol. Isn't this primarily their mosque? I accept that there is also a large number of Syrian workers in this area, and they are perfectly entitled to practise theirt religion here, but surely the Grand Mosque in Limassol should principally be catering for the needs of Turkish Cypriots? And if this mosque has been infiltrated by extremists, then something is wrong. Turkish Cypriots are probably the most moderate and secular Muslims in the world, and surely a mosque which is being administered in the name of this community should be promoting a philosophy which accords with the views of Turkish Cypriots.


Good morning friends.

when i said about Turkish society does not mean all are away from Islam. there are thousands in Turkey who want the sharia law in turkey but the follower of Attaturk are against it and you must know the issue of President,his wife was not allowed to enter the president palace because she was wearing headscarf. after all The president is the one who support Islamic law.

About the Imam being Syrian. for your information. there is not a single mosque in the south where there is regular Turkish Imam but there is one mosque here in Nicosia which is open just for Friday prayer. A Imam comes from Turkish Cyprus to address and lead the prayer and we always welcome him and i myself pray behind him.

Islam is not the property of Arabs or turks but it is for all human being. if you revert to Islam, it will be yours too same as any other. we welcome our Turkish brothers to join us anytime and if they wish they can take over the mosque and run them. the foreigner Imams are appointed because the Turkish imam is not available. remember that the mosque is not the property of anyone but God almighty and you being English man have the same right on mosque as me to go there and worship God almighty alone. not only Turkish you are also welcome anytime to come any mosque on the earth.

The website www.cyprus-islam.co.nr, you are talking about does not belong to Limassol or any mosque but generally guide for those who are new in Greek Cyprus to get information about the mosque location and the Phone number of the Imam is given on the other website which is www.islamicfinder.org , naver mind, may be you didn't know it.


take care and have a good day
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Postby BC Numismatics » Mon Feb 04, 2008 12:20 pm

QAMERSLAND,there's no such place as 'Greek Cyprus',nor is there a place called 'Turkish Cyprus'.There is only one Cyprus.

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Postby FreeSpirit » Mon Feb 04, 2008 1:31 pm

QAMERSLAND wrote:Islam is not the property of Arabs or turks but it is for all human being. if you revert to Islam,


Wrong again, to revert to islam means that you left islam and wish to rejoin.
I'm quite sure that Rawk, Bill and myself have never been muslims.

Your sentence to be correct should read "Islam is not the property of Arabs or turks but it is for all human being. if you convert to Islam"
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Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Feb 04, 2008 4:07 pm

QAMERSLAND wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:
QAMERSLAND wrote:
rawk wrote:
Bill wrote:
Well dodged Sqamers,

Stop faffing about. What's the old beardie up to in the video? Why are the others tapping their heads and joining in?

TRY ANSWERING A DIRECT QUESTION!

Hello! Hello!


Sqamers. Come out wherever you are!

rawk




It is just another attempt to malign Islam but i assure you that there is nothing in Islam to harm or beat oneself for any reason. infact it is prohibited to do any act to harm oneself or others whether it is by beating, smoking, drinking or anything.

this video is taken probably from Shias but it has nothing to do with true Islamic teaching. we Muslim check any act done with Quran and Authentic Hadith.

If you want to know Islam go to root source of Islam which is Quran.

Do not judge the Car by driver!

The best example of Muslim is Prophet Muhammad Peace be upon him. you must know him very well to know true Islam.

i am not against the west but i will agree what ever is good in west and i will disagree and point out what is bad in west because i have to be fully just not partly as you are witness that i always condemn to Muslims too if they are wrong.

Muslims by God's grace have no problem in Cyprus because Cypriots are friendly with Muslims. there are some misconception among Cypriot because of Turks because they don't know that Turkish society is not rightly guided Islamic Society. Cyprus has very good relations with Islamic countries in the region.


Re: "Turkish society is not rightly guided Islamic Society"

You seem to ignore the fact that there is a Muslim Turkish Cypriot community in Cyprus which has been established here for over four centuries. Turkish Cypriots are staunch supporters of Atatürk's concept of a secular state. Until you can provide a counter-example, I will categorically state that you will not find a single Turkish Cypriot who supports the adoption of Sharia law, which is a key component of the vision of Islam you promote.

It is curious to note that when on your website "Islam-Cyprus" you list the mosques in Cyprus, you ignore the existence of hundreds of functioning mosques in the north of the island.

Out of interest, I phoned the contact number for the Grand Mosque in Limassol given on your site and tried speaking in Turkish. The person answering the phone could speak no Turkish. It emerged that he was the imam of the mosque, and could only speak Arabic and a little English. He said that he was from Syria. I can't help feeling that this is wrong. After all, this mosque in common with all the historical mosques in the south of Cyprus is administered by the Turkish Property Commission for the benefit of Turkish Cypriots. There is a relatively large Turkish Cypriot community in Limassol. Isn't this primarily their mosque? I accept that there is also a large number of Syrian workers in this area, and they are perfectly entitled to practise theirt religion here, but surely the Grand Mosque in Limassol should principally be catering for the needs of Turkish Cypriots? And if this mosque has been infiltrated by extremists, then something is wrong. Turkish Cypriots are probably the most moderate and secular Muslims in the world, and surely a mosque which is being administered in the name of this community should be promoting a philosophy which accords with the views of Turkish Cypriots.


Good morning friends.

when i said about Turkish society does not mean all are away from Islam. there are thousands in Turkey who want the sharia law in turkey but the follower of Attaturk are against it and you must know the issue of President,his wife was not allowed to enter the president palace because she was wearing headscarf. after all The president is the one who support Islamic law.

About the Imam being Syrian. for your information. there is not a single mosque in the south where there is regular Turkish Imam but there is one mosque here in Nicosia which is open just for Friday prayer. A Imam comes from Turkish Cyprus to address and lead the prayer and we always welcome him and i myself pray behind him.

Islam is not the property of Arabs or turks but it is for all human being. if you revert to Islam, it will be yours too same as any other. we welcome our Turkish brothers to join us anytime and if they wish they can take over the mosque and run them. the foreigner Imams are appointed because the Turkish imam is not available. remember that the mosque is not the property of anyone but God almighty and you being English man have the same right on mosque as me to go there and worship God almighty alone. not only Turkish you are also welcome anytime to come any mosque on the earth.

The website www.cyprus-islam.co.nr, you are talking about does not belong to Limassol or any mosque but generally guide for those who are new in Greek Cyprus to get information about the mosque location and the Phone number of the Imam is given on the other website which is www.islamicfinder.org , naver mind, may be you didn't know it.


take care and have a good day


My claim, and I stand by it until contradicted, is that not a single Turkish CYPRIOT supports a vision of Islam based on Sharia law. In Turkey itself, I would estimate that no more than ten percent of the population are hardline, fanatical supporters of Sharia-based Islam. I would also estimate that there are at least an equal number of atheists in Turkey. The vast majority of citizens of the Turkish Republic consider themselves to be Muslims, but also strongly support the modern, secular state established there in 1923 by Mustafa Kemal Atatürk. They don't see the slightest contradiction between maintaining their faith and living in a modern law-based state that grants universal rights to all citizens.
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Postby purdey » Mon Feb 04, 2008 4:13 pm

Tim,I think you will find there are more Syrians living in and around Limassol then there are Turkish Cypriots.
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