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[QAMERSLAND]

BY THE WAY all Christians shouldn't eat also pork as it is forbidden in the bible.any one true christian beleiver wants to do in the life what jesus wants u to do.follow commandments.hope some one will read this and varify it with ur copy of bible.The Bible prohibits the consumption of pork, in the book of Leviticus

"And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be cloven footed, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you".

"Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcass shall ye not touch, they are unclean to you."
[Leviticus 11:7-8]

Pork is also prohibited in the Bible in the book of Deuteronomy

"And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it is unclean unto you. Ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcass."
[Deuteronomy 14:8]

A similar prohibition is repeated in the Bible in the book of Isaiah chapter 65 verse 2-5.

that is the old testament you fool! that is the mosaic law for the jews! not for christians you idiot! now you show your ignorance! you dont know the first thing about christianity do you? when you lot copied the bible, made a few changes and then named it the koran it`s a shame you were too stupid to realise that the bible consisted of both the old and new testaments! moron

Jesus peace be upon him said in the bible that i have not come to destroy the law,( old testament) and he said you have to keep the comandments.

it means christians should follow both old and new testament

jesus peace be upon him said that " hear O Israel, Lord of the word is one God" that we muslim believe but christians dont.

there is a reason why they dont believe because they are not following the right teaching of bible but what ever priests and chuch has put in thier mind.

mr dinos seems have more knowledge about bible than us. i am just a student islam and comprative religions,

i would like to ask him that how many people have wrote the complete bible and when?

i would like him to tell me who wrote more than 50 % of new testament, the man who according to some met to jesus PBUH once in his life time or others say not even one time?

i would like to ask him that do you know that you are not following the Jesus PBUH but the religion made by some one else?

if Christian is a person who follow the authentic teaching of Jesus PBUH not worship him then we Muslims are more Christians then the Christians themselves

Jesus PBUH said i dont want my will but the will of God to be done on the earth. anyone who say that not my will but the will of God is called Muslim in Arabic

dinos talked about Quran is copied from bible. why then there is no mistakes and contradictions in Quran but there are lot in Bible?

and do you know what really mean by the Word Quran?


i want other members to request mr dinos to answer my questions otherwise we thank him to leave us to disscuss reasonably and logically instead of throughing false info in the forum

thanks

[rajput49]

how u can enjoy ur religion dear rrichie when u dont know what actually it preaches and then follow it.if u think ur following right thing then prove it.answer atleast why u eat pork when it is forbidden in the testament.??why not to discuss rather than curse eachother christs message was of love not hatered.as christian should do what christ taught and preached.what u think we r """preaching"""is not different than what jesus said.read bible and more importantly understand the message within.u might find the lost light

[Stout]

QAMERSLAND, thank you, I think DINOS SKALIOTIS is not such the bad lad that he portrays himself as, I am from more or less the same area as he and am aware of the friction that exists between locals and the Muslim population.
He probably has issues with that population and, if he has, is entitled to be upset as a result of them.
There is no doubt that the areas surrounding Chingford have suffered a serious decline in neighbourliness of recent years, as a direct result of immigration policies, I do not blame him for being so aggressive on those issues, in fact I sympathise with the older residents who cannot accept the integration policies of the Government.
I cannot agree with abusive verbal attacks upon the likes of yourself who are only trying to explain the fundamental principles of Islam, a much maligned religion these days, certainly not deserved.

[rajput49]

thanks stout for explaining the situation we also support any person who has been victamised by any other person regardless of whatever religion he/she belongs.if some of the muslims have offended dinos we should criticize those muslims who hasent folowed the islamic teachings.islam teaches us justice.no one is allowed to take the right of someone else and even if u dont resist such an attempt to take ur right ur not following islam u have every right to defend ur property,or anything that is lawfully urs. islam is based on equality(some of members might have reservations regarding this that can be addressed).hope mr dinos will understand point we are trying to stress.

[QAMERSLAND]

thanks

[QAMERSLAND]

QAMERSLAND, thank you, I think DINOS SKALIOTIS is not such the bad lad that he portrays himself as, I am from more or less the same area as he and am aware of the friction that exists between locals and the Muslim population.
He probably has issues with that population and, if he has, is entitled to be upset as a result of them.
There is no doubt that the areas surrounding Chingford have suffered a serious decline in neighbourliness of recent years, as a direct result of immigration policies, I do not blame him for being so aggressive on those issues, in fact I sympathise with the older residents who cannot accept the integration policies of the Government.
I cannot agree with abusive verbal attacks upon the likes of yourself who are only trying to explain the fundamental principles of Islam, a much maligned religion these days, certainly not deserved.

thank you for explaning the reason why Mr Dinos is so angry because of muslims in his neigbourhood.

but my request to mr dinos is to understand the diffrence between islam and muslims. if Mr dinos wants to know islam, he should not judge the islam to see what the muslims are doing. if he wants to know islam, he should know the best example of Muslim prophet Muhammad PBUH and his athentic teachings. this topic is all about it

Mr dinos is welcome to talk and criticize islam and muslims but with good manners not by insulting

anyone who has problem with Islam should take the Quran and read it with understanding and come and tell us if there is a single principle of Islam against the humanity as whole.

Islam is most understood religion in the world because ppl just put allegations without having complete knowlege. the critic of islam takes the verses of the Quran out of context to mislead the ppl. if you know the context you come to know the truth

Mr Dinos is our brother in humanity. may be one day he will understand the truth Islam.

thanks

[Stout]

QAMERSLAND, I am only making an assumption in defence of Dinos, I cannot be sure of his motivation.
As a resident of the same area as he, I can say that there is an awful lot of friction between different cultures.
I am in the building trade and have suffered financially on account of the influx of immigrant workers, not that they are incapable of doing the job, they have certain skills but are also crafty schemers, prepared to go to any lengths to work AND register as unemployed.
There are many examples of such dishonesty among immigrant workers AND shirkers, business people also have a tendency to defraud, even the legal profession has recently been exposed to a damning slur on it's integrity on account of dishonest immigration offices. (immigrant staffed in particular), (Muslims mostly).
The U.K. has become the shadow of it's once great self, there is little wonder that the British have become so anti-everything when they see immigrants receiving preferential treatment.
Unfortunately, the media manipulators have managed to besmirch Islam due to the behaviour of a few fanatics, it suits the Government to keep the people at each others throats, that way the people are less able to understand what their leaders are really up to.

May we differentiate between Muslim and followers of the teachings of Islam ?.

[QAMERSLAND]

QAMERSLAND, I am only making an assumption in defence of Dinos, I cannot be sure of his motivation.
As a resident of the same area as he, I can say that there is an awful lot of friction between different cultures.
I am in the building trade and have suffered financially on account of the influx of immigrant workers, not that they are incapable of doing the job, they have certain skills but are also crafty schemers, prepared to go to any lengths to work AND register as unemployed.
There are many examples of such dishonesty among immigrant workers AND shirkers, business people also have a tendency to defraud, even the legal profession has recently been exposed to a damning slur on it's integrity on account of dishonest immigration offices. (immigrant staffed in particular).
The U.K. has become the shadow of it's once great self, there is little wonder that the British have become so anti-everything when they see immigrants receiving preferential treatment.
Unfortunately, the media manipulators have managed to besmirch Islam due to the behaviour of a few fanatics, it suits the Government to keep the people at each others throats, that way the people are less able to understand what their leaders are really up to.

i agree with you 100 % that there are black sheeps in every comunity, most of this dishonesty is shown by immgrants from indian subcontinent because of the situation from where they were forced to migrate and they do anything to survive and get money. Islam does not support this kind of activities.

in the other hand we should also try to understand why these ppl are doing this kind of activities and we need to help them so they act honestly


there were servey done by United nation that if the 250 richest men of the wolrd give just 4 % of their wealth to poors. the poverty will finish from this world and IRF made calculation that if 350 richest person give 2.5 % of their wealth according the teaching of Islam that every Muslim who holds 85 grams or more or equalent money for one year, he must pay atleast 2.5 % to poor every years.

May God guide richest men in the world to share their wealth so no one will die with hunger in africa and ppl will not be forced to rob and cheating

Prophet Muhammad PBUH set the best example. there are too many incidents when he helped others and suffers himself to be the example for others, one of those was when he worked all day and got one bread and when he reached home. one bagger knocked the door and ask for food and Muhammad PBUH gave that single bread that he had to eat to bagger. once one guest came and he offered him his food and he close the light so the guest can eat without seeing him bcoz the food was enough just for one. he is no doubt the best example that world has ever known

[boomerang]

End of the day guys, since Bin Laden, right or wrong, you gonna have a hard time in pushing anything to do with islam on anyone...

I said it before, religion is a private matter between yourself and your maker...

PS...on a side note can someone explain to me the burga?...Why do women wear the burga? or the headscarve?

[RebelWithoutAPause]

The burka, as far as i have been told, is more cultural tradition than a law in Islam.

I think one of the stories about how it came into use is that there was some beautiful woman, somewhere in Arabia or the Middle East, and everytime she looked at a man they instantly fell for her and wanted to marry her and she got harrassed all that time...or something like that.

Probably just the same as today, asking your woman not to dress so tarty once your going out or married.