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Postby rawk » Fri Jan 18, 2008 2:57 pm

shahmaran wrote:Well then why is he quoting my post which is actually irrelevant to his reply?

I can just picture this guy being one of them fat bearded baboons who have eerie eyes, they sit in a yoga position, wear horrible clothes, smell like toilet refresheners, points their index finger to the sky when talking with the most arrogant attitude, has absolutely no clue about anything in life other then the Koran which is why he ignores everything you say and quickly diverts all conversations and questions (as irrelevant as it might be) to the Koran because it is all he knows, they are very stereotypical people and look down on women, i know many of them.

What is your profession Qamersland, if you don't mind me ask?


Sqamers is Brother Ahmed at Limssol Mosque, here's the link.

http://www.islamicfinder.org/getitWorld ... 7882&lang=

Interestingly he's removed his email address which was

qamersland@islamicnutjob

or whatever, in the last week from the site.

He can't be very busy, seems to have a lot of time on his hands, here in Sunni Cyprus.

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Postby BC Numismatics » Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:29 pm

Rawk,you are a crackpot who obviously has neither nuts nor a job.You need to do one thing - growing a brain!

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Postby cyprusgrump » Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:39 pm

BC Numismatics wrote:Rawk,you are a crackpot who obviously has neither nuts nor a job.You need to do one thing - growing a brain!

Aidan.

When do you go back to school Nadia?
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Postby rawk » Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:06 pm

BC Numismatics wrote:Rawk,you are a crackpot who obviously has neither nuts nor a job.You need to do one thing - growing a brain!

Aidan.


Isn't it bedtime for you hobbits in Kiwiland?

I'd rather be a crackpot than a pisspot like you!

Numpty!

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Postby BC Numismatics » Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:16 pm

Rawk,you are a classic example of a major league wanker,just like your idol,the Nazi scumbag called the Pope of Rome!

You need to go & get your head examined!

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Postby cyprusgrump » Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:31 pm

BC Numismatics wrote:Rawk,you are a classic example of a major league wanker,just like your idol,the Nazi scumbag called the Pope of Rome!

You need to go & get your head examined!

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Postby rawk » Fri Jan 18, 2008 4:41 pm

You just leave my mate the pope out of this!

Anyway, he wasn't a real Nazi, he just used to help out when they were a bit short handed.

Whats your excuse?

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Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:19 pm

BC Numismatics wrote:Rawk,you are a classic example of a major league wanker,just like your idol,the Nazi scumbag called the Pope of Rome!

You need to go & get your head examined!

Aidan.


How can you condemn Islamaphobia and then make a statement like:

"the Nazi scumbag called the Pope of Rome"?

This is rank hypocrisy. You are either for religious tolerance or against it.
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Postby Southerner » Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:20 pm

BC Numismatics wrote:Rawk,you are a classic example of a major league wanker,just like your idol,the Nazi scumbag called the Pope of Rome!
You need to go & get your head examined!Aidan.


It is quite obvious that you would be an excellent recruit for the suicide bomber brigade.
The suicide bombers annual dinner takes place soon. It is the least expensive of all reunions.

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You'r so stupid you'd probably cock it up an survive
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Postby Southerner » Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:24 pm

QAMERSLAND wrote:
Tim Drayton wrote:QAMERSLAND says "Islam Prohabits to make sects".

Then what are Sunnis and Shiites? What about Alawites (Aleviler)?


WHY ARE MUSLIMS DIVIDED INTO SECTS / DIFFERENT SCHOOLS OF THOUGHT?

Question:

When all the Muslim follow one and the same Qur’an then why are there so many sects and different schools of thoughts among Muslims?

Answer:


1.
Muslims Should be United

It is a fact that Muslims today, are divided amongst themselves. The tragedy is that such divisions are not endorsed by Islam at all. Islam believes in fostering unity amongst its followers.

The Glorious Qur’an says:

"And hold fast,
All together, by the rope
Which Allah (stretches out for you),
and be not divided among yourselves;"
[Al-Qur’an 3:103]

Which is the rope of Allah that is being referred to in this verse? It is the Glorious Qur’an. The Glorious Qur’an is the rope of Allah which all Muslims should hold fast together. There is double emphasis in this verse. Besides saying ‘hold fast all together’ it also says, ‘be not divided’.

Qur’an further says,

"Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger"
[Al-Qur’an 4:59]

All the Muslim should follow the Qur’an and authentic Ahadith and be not divided among themselves.


2.
It is Prohibited to make sects and divisions in Islam

The Glorious Qur’an says:

"As for those who divide
Their religion and break up
Into sects, thou hast
No part in them in the least:
Their affair is with Allah:
He will in the end
Tell them the truth
Of all that they did."
[Al-Qur’an 6:159]

In this verse Allah (swt) says that one should disassociate oneself from those who divide their religion and break it up into sects.

But when one asks a Muslim, "who are you?", the common answer is either ‘I am a Sunni, or ‘I am a Shia’. Some call themselves Hanafi, or Shafi or Maliki or Humbali. Some say ‘I am a Deobandi’, while some others say ‘I am a Barelvi’.


3.
Our Prophet was a Muslim

One may ask such Muslims, "Who was our beloved prophet (pbuh)? Was he a Hanafi or a Shafi, or a Humbali or a Maliki?" No! He was a Muslim, like all the other prophets and messengers of Allah before him.

It is mentioned in chapter 3 verse 52 of Al-Qur’an that Jesus (pbuh) was a Muslim.

Further, in chapter 3 verse 67, Al-Qur’an says that Ibrahim (pbuh) was not a Jew or a Christian but was a Muslim.


4.
Qur’an says call yourselves Muslim

If anyone poses a Muslim the question who are you, he should say "I am a MUSLIM, not a Hanafi or a Shafi". Surah Fussilat chapter 41 verse 33 says
"Who is better in speech
Than one who calls (men)
To Allah, works righteousness,
And says, ‘I am of those
Who bow in Islam (Muslim)?’ "
[Al-Qur’an 41:33]

The Qur’an says "Say I am of those who bow in Islam". In other words, say, "I am a Muslim".

The Prophet (pbuh) dictated letters to non-Muslim kings and rulers inviting them to accept Islam. In these letters he mentioned the verse of the Qur’an from Surah Ali Imran chapter 3 verse 64:
Say ye: "Bear witness
That we (at least)
Are Muslims (bowing
To Allah’s Will)."
[Al-Qur’an 3:64]


5.
Respect all the Great Scholars of Islam
We must respect all the great scholars of Islam, including the four Imaams, Imam Abu Hanifa, Imam Shafi, Imam Humbal and Imam Malik (may Allah be pleased with them all). They were great scholars and may Allah reward them for their research and hardwork. One can have no objection if someone agrees with the views and research of Imam Abu Hanifa or Imam Shafi, etc. But when posed a question, ‘who are you?’, the reply should only be ‘I am a Muslim’.



Some may argue by quoting the hadith of our beloved Prophet from Sunan Abu Dawood Hadith No. 4579. In this hadith the prophet (pbuh) is reported to have said, "My community will be split up into seventy-three sects."

This hadith reports that the prophet predicted the emergence of seventy-three sects. He did not say that Muslims should be active in dividing themselves into sects. The Glorious Qur’an commands us not to create sects. Those who follow the teachings of the Qur’an and Sahih Hadith, and do not create sects are the people who are on the true path.

According to Tirmidhi Hadith No. 171, the prophet (pbuh) is reported to have said, "My Ummah will be fragmented into seventy-three sects, and all of them will be in Hell fire except one sect." The companions asked Allah’s messenger which group that would be. Where upon he replied, "It is the one to which I and my companions belong."

The Glorious Qur’an mentions in several verses, "Obey Allah and obey His Messenger". A true Muslim should only follow the Glorious Qur’an and the Sahih Hadith. He can agree with the views of any scholar as long as they conform to the teachings of the Qur’an and Sahih Hadith. If such views go against the Word of Allah, or the Sunnah of His Prophet, then they carry no weight, regardless of how learned the scholar might be.

If only all Muslims read the Qur’an with understanding and adhere to Sahih Hadith, Inshallah most of these differences would be solved and we could be one united Muslim Ummah


The usual excuses.

There is only one response that comes to mind, don't you think you ought to Put your own house in order first
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