Cyprus-Forum.com

[Southerner]

this is what i have been trying to make most of them here to understand the true Islam not those muslims who are not following the Islam properly.

But according to them thay are following islam properly; what I sugest is that you go to their mosques and get enlightenment then you can become a suicide bomber and we'll be rid of you.

BTW take BC with you.

[QAMERSLAND]

"you talking about your society where a persoal have average 20 sexual parteners before setteling down with one but there is no place in Islam for Adultery or sex before marraige and also not in Christinalty. "

Slight hint of envy there, Sqamers? Never mind, you've got 72 virgins to look forward to when you've shuttled off this mortal coil. How does that square with Islam? No nookie here but shed loads in the afterlife!

You're having a laugh, aren't you?

Rawk (peace be upon me)

Yes i am smiling on your ignorant and lack of knowledge. i am not muslim because i will have virgins in Pradise but i am muslim because i am following the way of my creator. i am striving to do what my creator wants me to do. i am worshiping him alone without any partners. my creator knows what punish or reward i will get on the day of judgement and you be witness that i invited you to follow the way of our Creator.

you may not believe it but it is the truth.

[QAMERSLAND]

this is what i have been trying to make most of them here to understand the true Islam not those muslims who are not following the Islam properly.

But according to them thay are following islam properly; what I sugest is that you go to their mosques and get enlightenment then you can become a suicide bomber and we'll be rid of you.

BTW take BC with you.

Member of British parliment Goerge Gallwoy himself said that Goerge W Bush is the bigest terrorist in the world and the blood G.W bush and Tony Blair have in their hands is much more than Usama Bin Laden.

He further said that a sucide bomber will be justified if he attacks on Tony Blair and kill him Alone wihtout hurting any one else.

This is your MP's Words but i differ. i dont want to kill them but i Pray God to guide both Goerge Bush and Tony Blair or atleast one of them

[shahmaran]

How do you know Qamersland?

Do you believe that we have derived from Adam and Eve?

[cyprusgrump]

"you talking about your society where a persoal have average 20 sexual parteners before setteling down with one but there is no place in Islam for Adultery or sex before marraige and also not in Christinalty. "

Slight hint of envy there, Sqamers? Never mind, you've got 72 virgins to look forward to when you've shuttled off this mortal coil. How does that square with Islam? No nookie here but shed loads in the afterlife!

You're having a laugh, aren't you?

Rawk (peace be upon me)

Yes i am smiling on your ignorant and lack of knowledge. i am not muslim because i will have virgins in Pradise but i am muslim because i am following the way of my creator. i am striving to do what my creator wants me to do. i am worshiping him alone without any partners. my creator knows what punish or reward i will get on the day of judgement and you be witness that i invited you to follow the way of our Creator.

you may not believe it but it is the truth.

Prove it to me...

[QAMERSLAND]

It is essential that anybody debating whether Islamic fundamentalists are required to obey the laws of the country they live in understand the Islamic concept of "Taqiya". This is a doctrine which allows Muslims to give the appearance of tolerating the beliefs, laws and customs of their host communities, while actually striving to bring them under the yoke of Sharia law. You can get some basic information here.
http://answering-islam.org.uk/Index/T/taqiya.html

So in actual fact Quamersland is telling us a pack of lies when he claims that the koran can only be interpreted one way, if that was the case why then so many different sects within the islamic faith who are prepared to kill each other.

To summarise islam is just like any other religion open to whatever anyone means it to be to suit there own particular agenda.

it is white lie.

i naver said that Quran can be interpreted one way. I said The Quran is Present in its original form from past 1400 years in Original Arabic text.

God says in the Quran that "those who devide the religion, their matter is with God"

Islam Prohabits to make sects. I am not from any sect but i call myself A Muslim as Prophet Muhammad and his companians PBUT

therefore we do not say the transaltion of Quran but the translation of the meaning of Quran because translation is human handy work and there is always chance to have mistakes.

[Tim Drayton]

It is essential that anybody debating whether Islamic fundamentalists are required to obey the laws of the country they live in understand the Islamic concept of "Taqiya". This is a doctrine which allows Muslims to give the appearance of tolerating the beliefs, laws and customs of their host communities, while actually striving to bring them under the yoke of Sharia law. You can get some basic information here.
http://answering-islam.org.uk/Index/T/taqiya.html

So in actual fact Quamersland is telling us a pack of lies when he claims that the koran can only be interpreted one way, if that was the case why then so many different sects within the islamic faith who are prepared to kill each other.

To summarise islam is just like any other religion open to whatever anyone means it to be to suit there own particular agenda.

Precisely.
Compare the attitude taken in verse 9:5 of the Quran towards unbelievers:

But when the forbidden months are past, then fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, an seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful.

with that of chapter 109

1. Say : O ye that reject Faith!
2. I worship not that which ye worship,
3. Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
4. And I will not worship that which ye have been wont to worship,
5. Nor will ye worship that which I worship.
6. To you be your Way, and to me mine.

The first quote preaches total intolerance ("fight and slay them") while the second quote preaches total tolerance ("to you be your way, and to me mine").

[QAMERSLAND]

"you talking about your society where a persoal have average 20 sexual parteners before setteling down with one but there is no place in Islam for Adultery or sex before marraige and also not in Christinalty. "

Slight hint of envy there, Sqamers? Never mind, you've got 72 virgins to look forward to when you've shuttled off this mortal coil. How does that square with Islam? No nookie here but shed loads in the afterlife!

You're having a laugh, aren't you?

Rawk (peace be upon me)

Yes i am smiling on your ignorant and lack of knowledge. i am not muslim because i will have virgins in Pradise but i am muslim because i am following the way of my creator. i am striving to do what my creator wants me to do. i am worshiping him alone without any partners. my creator knows what punish or reward i will get on the day of judgement and you be witness that i invited you to follow the way of our Creator.

you may not believe it but it is the truth.

Prove it to me...

yes i will do it but i need to know what do you believe actully?

are you an athiest with christian parents?

[shahmaran]

I am an agnostic with Muslim parents born and raised in a Muslim country, so hit me.

[Tim Drayton]

QAMERSLAND says "Islam Prohabits to make sects".

Then what are Sunnis and Shiites? What about Alawites (Aleviler)?