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[Southerner]

[For bible i agree because bible was just for that particular time period and specific people but Quran is for all times.

Well why aren't I surprised by that?

[QAMERSLAND]

25. 1 Samuel 15:2-4
but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

Kill Even Small babies(suckling)???

NO COMMENT!!!!

Because of that We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land - it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind. And indeed, there came to them Our Messengers with clear proofs, evidences, and signs, even then after that many of them continued to exceed the limits (e.g. by doing oppression unjustly and exceeding beyond the limits set by Allâh by committing the major sins) in the land!. Quran 5:32


Lets go ahead and look more at the Bible:

"I came to SET THE EARTH ON FIRE, and how I wish that it were ALREADY KINDLED.
"Do you supposed that I came to bring peace to the world? No, NOT PEACE BUT DIVISION."
Luke 12:49 and 51

JESUS (pbuh) came not to bring peace but division!!!

Question :
From where did Mr.Luke get his Inspiration??!

Comment:
Is this Bible For or Against Jesus (pbuh)?
Im getting very Confused now!!!

26. "That night they (both the daughters of Lot) gave him (their father Lot-pbuh) wine to drink, and the Older daughter had Intercourse with him......

......and the younger daughter had Intercourse with him...

...."In this way both Lot's daughters became Pregnant by their father."
Genesis 19:33-35

Question: A Prophet Of God Getting drunk & Commits Incest???!

"How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie. (From the RSV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)".

Comment:
Exactly A Very Clear lie!!

Lot Peace be Upon him was one of the great messengers of God, who was metioned in the Quran as a messenger who faught Sexual Immorality,for that was the Message Of every Prophet, to teach people the main message of God Almighty which is Good morals and manners ,Not Incest and How to get Drunk!!!

And (remember) Lût (Lot), when he said to his people: "Do you commit the worst sin such as none preceding you has committed in the 'Alamîn (mankind and jinn)? Quran 7:80

And the answer of his people was only that they said: "Drive them out of your town, these are indeed men who want to be pure (from sins)!"Quran 7:82

27. "If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.
(From the NIV Bible, Matthew 5:29)"

Comment :
Please If your a Christian Do Not Put this verse into practice , just ask forgivness from God ! and lower your gaze instead!!!



28. "... God Himself is really in love with you!... whoever you may be!... "For the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men" (1Cor.125)...

Question:
Did Paul Just Call God A fool & Weak ?!!!

But anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell.
(From the NIV Bible, Matthew 5:22)"

Comment:
You cannot Call anyone Fool according to Jesus(pbuh), but Paul Clearly Contradicted that !!!

anyone who blasphemes the name of the LORD must be put to death. The entire assembly must stone him. Leviticus 24:16


Question :
According to the bible anyone who Insults God Must be Stoned to Death , but we see christians had No will to stone Paul(if he were alive), but accept him as an Apostle ??? A Man Who Clearly Insulted God An Apostle (Prophet Of God)???!!


29. Contradictions in the Bible:

700 or 7000 ? "Horsemen or "Footmen" ?
2 Samuel 10:18 vs 1Chronicles 19:18

Solomon had 2000 baths or 3000 baths ?
1 kings 7:26 vs 2 Chronicles 4:5

Solomon had 4000 stalls of horses or 40000?
2 Chronicles 9:25 vs 1 kings 4:26

Did Saul enquire of the Lord or didn't he ?
1Samuels 28:6 vs 1Chronicles 10:13-14

More Contradictions!!!


1. Heaven, no man hath ascended John 3:13

Contradicted by :

2 kings 2:11 Elijah ascended ,

and in Genesis 5:24 Enoch ascended.



2. Jesus lost "None" of his disciples John 18:19

Contradicted by:

He lost only "One" John 17:12

3. "No man hath seen God at any time"John 1:18

Contradicted by :

"And the Lord spake unto Moses face to face,as a man speaketh unto his friend" Exodus 33:11


4. "God whom no man hath seen, nor can see...."

Contradicted by:

"And they(Moses,Aaron and seventy others) Saw the God of Israel..." Exodus 24:1


Is Jesus the Only Son of God?

Contradicted by the Bible that ascribes Sons of God by the tons.

"For as many as are led by the Spirit of God,they are the Sons of God" Romans 8:14

"That the SONS OF GOD saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took wives of all of all which they chose"
Genesis 6:2

"....Thus saith the Lord,Israel is MY SON even my FIRSTBORN" Exodus 4:22

"...and Ephraim is my FIRSTBORN" Jeremiah 31:9

"....Thou (O David) ART MY SON; this day have I(God) BEGOTTEN thee " PSALMS 2:7

EXTRA CONTRADICTIONS
1: In Matthew 4:5-8 the Devil took Jesus to the pinnacle and then to the mountain, while in Luke 4:5-9 he took him to the mountain and then the pinnacle.

2: In Matt. 21:12-19 Jesus cleansed the temple and later cursed the fig tree, while in Mark 11:13-15 he cursed the fig tree and later cleansed the temple.

3: In Matt. 8:28-32 Jesus caused devils to enter swine and later called Levi (Matt. 9:9), while in Luke 5:27-28 Jesus called Levi and later caused devils to enter swine (Luke 8:26-33).

4: In Mark 1:12-13 Jesus was tempted in the wilderness and later John was arrested (Mark 6:17-18), while in Luke 3:19-20 John was arrested and later Jesus was tempted in the wilderness (Luke 4:1-13)

5: In Mark 2:13-17 Matthew was called by Jesus and later the tempest was calmed (Mark 4:35-40), while in Matt. 8:18, 23-27 the tempest was calmed and later Matthew was called (Matt. 9:9-17).

And the long list of Clear Contradictions goes on & on & on &on &on ......


A FINAL ADVICE

To All My Christian Brothers & Sisters ,the Jews Alike,Please do think Quickly before its Too late , and follow the Truth and the light that God has Sent to you with the coming of the Comforter, the Spirit of truth, the Prophet Mohammed (pbuh), that Jesus(pbuh) has promised to come.

Final Question :
How Can Jesus (pbuh) Be God If he was Worshiping God???!

O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians): "Why do you Mix truth with Falsehood and conceal the truth while you know?"
Quran 3:71

Yes but how old was muhameds youngest wife when they wed?

Islam teaches us to make the marriages easy and make the adultery dificult

whoever reaches to the age when he/she are able to marry, they should marry. and the both male and female should be aksed about their wish.

So the youngest wife Aisha of Prophet pbuh married to him by her will and she lived about 40 years after his death and she didnt say a word bad about Muhammad pbuh in her entire life that proves that she was happy.

there are other reason and facts that will prove you that Prophet pbuh refused to marry at first time when her father offered himself to prophet pbuh but he married when she was young enough to marry.

i hope answer your question. please answer all 3o questions that i asked you

good night

[Southerner]

you better read all Quran that i can provide you link in English translation but the best is too read in Arabic which is preserved from past 1400 years in its real form.

I'm only interested in the bit where Ali Baba says "Open Sesame"; I loved that bit, or have I got the wrong story book.

[Southerner]

[there are other reason and facts that will prove you that Prophet pbuh refused to marry at first time when her father offered himself to prophet pbuh but he married when she was young enough to marry.

Yes but how old was she when they married? although I can understand muhamed marrying her instead of marrying her father. (when her father offered himself to prophet)

[Tim Drayton]

tim dont make negative impressions go back pages and u will find answer .it was posted when u commented but u just want to ask things never bother to read though.read carefully all posts dont read just what suits u.

I am sorry, but I never received an answer to that question, or many others that I posed.

Here is a simple question, which I am now asking for the third time. Under Sharia law, if a women goes to Saudi Arabia to work as a housemaid, is she her employer's "right-hand possession" as defined in the verses of the Quran I have quoted?

It is a simple question. Yes or no.

[shahmaran]

[For bible i agree because bible was just for that particular time period and specific people but Quran is for all times.

That is by far the most oxymoronic comment this guy has made so far, and that is saying something.

The amount of ignorance he is dwelling in is actually nauseating.

He kind of reminds me of the western people who come to my village to visit the Nakshibendi leader and suddenly have an "awakening" and realise that they have been dead their whole meaningless life and that now it is their duty to convert you into their "truth" because they assume if you are not one of them then you must be in need of salvation but you just don't know it (!!!).

How sad are they to think such way and don't realise that this subjective experience can only feed on the ignorance of its hosts and that actually now their mind is in control of it which is actually under control of their so called leader Shaikh Nazim, who has made a killing through it! $$$

You are no different Qamersland, you are as smart as a plank of wood.

[Tim Drayton]

Following this thread, I have long since suspected that "QAMERSLAND", "Stout" and "rajput49" (perhaps even "moonlight") are all the same person.
Now I am beginning to wonder about our good friend Aidan!

"when the truth is heard like a falsehood, falsehood will perish because falsehood by its nature bound to be perish" The Quran

God knows that they are all different people and i also know it. cant you understand?
you are here to teach us and act like you are the most clever in this forum. you proved yourself what you are who can not defensiate among few.

what will you advise to the world. i feel sorry for you

Re "God knows that..."

How dare you as a mere mortal and slave of God presume to know what God in his infinite wisdom does or does not know? This statement is unacceptable from within the premises of islam.

[shahmaran]

Its like 2 blind men arguing over a painting!

[Southerner]

:lol:

Its like 2 blind men arguing over a painting!

Blind being the operative word, blind faith, the blind leading the blind.

Not one original thought just blindly following anything that whoever at that moment in time decides how this ancient verse is going to be translated today.

[rawk]

thank you rawk for advise but i am not just a Muslim because my parents were Muslims. my mind has approved that the Islam is the true religion of God. and i believe it because the truth of Islam has exposed to me. i challenge any human being to come and prove me that if their religion or atheism is better than Islam. i will go to his.her religion but he/she must prove it.

Do my eyes deceive me, Sqammers? "i will go to his.her religion but he/she must prove it."

You would consider a change of religion? Well get back on that Satanist site toot sweet, there's quite a lot of interesting concepts on there.

"I will come to them from before them, and from behind them, and from their right, and from their left, and You will find that most of them are unappreciative." [7:17]

Rawk إبليس