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Postby QAMERSLAND » Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:35 am

rawk wrote:Sqammers me old fruit!

I've got the answer! Stop quoting all that boring old Christian and Muslim rubbish, those religions are equally out of date as each other!

You are an exceptional individual, just the right sort to embrace for a modern go ahead religion that incorporates a lot of some good old fashioned cruelty and killing.

You got it Sqammers, much more challanging than moping around Limassol Mosque all day with all the other Muslim fruitcakes. Try this link, old buddy, your future awaits....in years to come, just remember to thank me for getting you out of this rut!

http://www.churchofsatan.com/

Rawk


thank you rawk for advise but i am not just a Muslim because my parents were Muslims. my mind has approved that the Islam is the true religion of God. and i believe it because the truth of Islam has exposed to me. i challenge any human being to come and prove me that if their religion or atheism is better than Islam. i will go to his.her religion but he/she must prove it.


what you are advising me is the duty of devil. and surely devil will be in hell fire. but you are my brother in humanity and i will naver wish to see you or anyone in this world to be in hell fire.

Islam is not like other religion. some set of rules only. Islam is a complete way of life. but you will not understand because you have closed your mind because you fed up with religious definition given
to you from your society and media.

i do not supprot any kind of terorism whether it is done by muslims or non muslims. we do not need to plot to kill pope because the God says in the Quran " the truth stands out clear from erorr"

southerner you better think what the verses of the bible says instead of making the bible more crupt. may be the language is old but the message is clear for those who want to understand.

May God guide all of you
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Postby Southerner » Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:36 am

BC Numismatics wrote:Qamersland,southerner may be ignorant,but the ignorance of Rawk really takes the cake,as it were.He has the cheek to say 'Church' & 'Satan' in the same sentence.It's obvious that he hasn't read either the Koran or the Bible.The Book of Revelation directly refers to the number '666',which is also one of the Pope of Rome's two lucky numbers.The other one is 13.Aidan.


I was born during a war that was fought for the right to think for myself and speak for myself and if I want to have a piglet as a pet and I choose to call it Muhamed I don't expect half crazed muslims to bay for my blood.
The true ignorant people here are those who have never tasted the sweet smell of freedom of thought.
Do those muslim plonkers who were freaking out in the streets just because someone drew a picture of an arab nutter think they look anything but the rabble like renta mob morons that they are
To become so subservient to the hallucinated ramblings of an arab paedophile defies logic but is so typical of the way control freaks have operated down the years
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Postby QAMERSLAND » Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:48 am

Tim Drayton wrote:Following this thread, I have long since suspected that "QAMERSLAND", "Stout" and "rajput49" (perhaps even "moonlight") are all the same person.
Now I am beginning to wonder about our good friend Aidan!


"when the truth is heard like a falsehood, falsehood will perish because falsehood by its nature bound to be perish" The Quran

God knows that they are all different people and i also know it. cant you understand?
you are here to teach us and act like you are the most clever in this forum. you proved yourself what you are who can not defensiate among few.

what will you advise to the world. i feel sorry for you
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And the moon is made of green cheese

Postby Southerner » Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:50 am

QAMERSLAND wrote:southerner you better think what the verses of the bible says instead of making the bible more crupt. may be the language is old but the message is clear for those who want to understand.


I'm glad you said that because that is the point that I have been making, neither the Bible or the korans messages are clear, they are open to so many interpretations because the language that they are written in and the terminology used are totaly ambiguous by todays usage of the so-called written word.

In actual fact both the Bible and koran are a godsend to any budding fanatic.

This was never so brilliantly brought home in the trial of the school teacher in the US who was prosecuted for teaching evolution.
A lawyer had the guts and common sense to stand up to the blinkered, blind faith, religious zealots who insisted that god made the world in seven days etc, etc,etc.
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Last Series of few Questions

Postby QAMERSLAND » Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:52 am

25. 1 Samuel 15:2-4
but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

Kill Even Small babies(suckling)???

NO COMMENT!!!!

Because of that We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land - it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind. And indeed, there came to them Our Messengers with clear proofs, evidences, and signs, even then after that many of them continued to exceed the limits (e.g. by doing oppression unjustly and exceeding beyond the limits set by Allâh by committing the major sins) in the land!. Quran 5:32


Lets go ahead and look more at the Bible:

"I came to SET THE EARTH ON FIRE, and how I wish that it were ALREADY KINDLED.
"Do you supposed that I came to bring peace to the world? No, NOT PEACE BUT DIVISION."
Luke 12:49 and 51

JESUS (pbuh) came not to bring peace but division!!!

Question :
From where did Mr.Luke get his Inspiration??!

Comment:
Is this Bible For or Against Jesus (pbuh)?
Im getting very Confused now!!!

26. "That night they (both the daughters of Lot) gave him (their father Lot-pbuh) wine to drink, and the Older daughter had Intercourse with him......

......and the younger daughter had Intercourse with him...

...."In this way both Lot's daughters became Pregnant by their father."
Genesis 19:33-35

Question: A Prophet Of God Getting drunk & Commits Incest???!

"How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie. (From the RSV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)".

Comment:
Exactly A Very Clear lie!!

Lot Peace be Upon him was one of the great messengers of God, who was metioned in the Quran as a messenger who faught Sexual Immorality,for that was the Message Of every Prophet, to teach people the main message of God Almighty which is Good morals and manners ,Not Incest and How to get Drunk!!!

And (remember) Lût (Lot), when he said to his people: "Do you commit the worst sin such as none preceding you has committed in the 'Alamîn (mankind and jinn)? Quran 7:80

And the answer of his people was only that they said: "Drive them out of your town, these are indeed men who want to be pure (from sins)!"Quran 7:82

27. "If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.
(From the NIV Bible, Matthew 5:29)"

Comment :
Please If your a Christian Do Not Put this verse into practice , just ask forgivness from God ! and lower your gaze instead!!!



28. "... God Himself is really in love with you!... whoever you may be!... "For the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men" (1Cor.125)...

Question:
Did Paul Just Call God A fool & Weak ?!!!

But anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell.
(From the NIV Bible, Matthew 5:22)"

Comment:
You cannot Call anyone Fool according to Jesus(pbuh), but Paul Clearly Contradicted that !!!

anyone who blasphemes the name of the LORD must be put to death. The entire assembly must stone him. Leviticus 24:16


Question :
According to the bible anyone who Insults God Must be Stoned to Death , but we see christians had No will to stone Paul(if he were alive), but accept him as an Apostle ??? A Man Who Clearly Insulted God An Apostle (Prophet Of God)???!!


29. Contradictions in the Bible:

700 or 7000 ? "Horsemen or "Footmen" ?
2 Samuel 10:18 vs 1Chronicles 19:18

Solomon had 2000 baths or 3000 baths ?
1 kings 7:26 vs 2 Chronicles 4:5

Solomon had 4000 stalls of horses or 40000?
2 Chronicles 9:25 vs 1 kings 4:26

Did Saul enquire of the Lord or didn't he ?
1Samuels 28:6 vs 1Chronicles 10:13-14

More Contradictions!!!


1. Heaven, no man hath ascended John 3:13

Contradicted by :

2 kings 2:11 Elijah ascended ,

and in Genesis 5:24 Enoch ascended.



2. Jesus lost "None" of his disciples John 18:19

Contradicted by:

He lost only "One" John 17:12

3. "No man hath seen God at any time"John 1:18

Contradicted by :

"And the Lord spake unto Moses face to face,as a man speaketh unto his friend" Exodus 33:11


4. "God whom no man hath seen, nor can see...."

Contradicted by:

"And they(Moses,Aaron and seventy others) Saw the God of Israel..." Exodus 24:1


Is Jesus the Only Son of God?

Contradicted by the Bible that ascribes Sons of God by the tons.

"For as many as are led by the Spirit of God,they are the Sons of God" Romans 8:14

"That the SONS OF GOD saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took wives of all of all which they chose"
Genesis 6:2

"....Thus saith the Lord,Israel is MY SON even my FIRSTBORN" Exodus 4:22

"...and Ephraim is my FIRSTBORN" Jeremiah 31:9

"....Thou (O David) ART MY SON; this day have I(God) BEGOTTEN thee " PSALMS 2:7

EXTRA CONTRADICTIONS
1: In Matthew 4:5-8 the Devil took Jesus to the pinnacle and then to the mountain, while in Luke 4:5-9 he took him to the mountain and then the pinnacle.

2: In Matt. 21:12-19 Jesus cleansed the temple and later cursed the fig tree, while in Mark 11:13-15 he cursed the fig tree and later cleansed the temple.

3: In Matt. 8:28-32 Jesus caused devils to enter swine and later called Levi (Matt. 9:9), while in Luke 5:27-28 Jesus called Levi and later caused devils to enter swine (Luke 8:26-33).

4: In Mark 1:12-13 Jesus was tempted in the wilderness and later John was arrested (Mark 6:17-18), while in Luke 3:19-20 John was arrested and later Jesus was tempted in the wilderness (Luke 4:1-13)

5: In Mark 2:13-17 Matthew was called by Jesus and later the tempest was calmed (Mark 4:35-40), while in Matt. 8:18, 23-27 the tempest was calmed and later Matthew was called (Matt. 9:9-17).

And the long list of Clear Contradictions goes on & on & on &on &on ......


A FINAL ADVICE

To All My Christian Brothers & Sisters ,the Jews Alike,Please do think Quickly before its Too late , and follow the Truth and the light that God has Sent to you with the coming of the Comforter, the Spirit of truth, the Prophet Mohammed (pbuh), that Jesus(pbuh) has promised to come.

Final Question :
How Can Jesus (pbuh) Be God If he was Worshiping God???!

O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians): "Why do you Mix truth with Falsehood and conceal the truth while you know?"
Quran 3:71
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Re: Last Series of few Questions

Postby Southerner » Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:55 am

QAMERSLAND wrote:25. 1 Samuel 15:2-4
but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

Kill Even Small babies(suckling)???

NO COMMENT!!!!

Because of that We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land - it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind. And indeed, there came to them Our Messengers with clear proofs, evidences, and signs, even then after that many of them continued to exceed the limits (e.g. by doing oppression unjustly and exceeding beyond the limits set by Allâh by committing the major sins) in the land!. Quran 5:32


Lets go ahead and look more at the Bible:

"I came to SET THE EARTH ON FIRE, and how I wish that it were ALREADY KINDLED.
"Do you supposed that I came to bring peace to the world? No, NOT PEACE BUT DIVISION."
Luke 12:49 and 51

JESUS (pbuh) came not to bring peace but division!!!

Question :
From where did Mr.Luke get his Inspiration??!

Comment:
Is this Bible For or Against Jesus (pbuh)?
Im getting very Confused now!!!

26. "That night they (both the daughters of Lot) gave him (their father Lot-pbuh) wine to drink, and the Older daughter had Intercourse with him......

......and the younger daughter had Intercourse with him...

...."In this way both Lot's daughters became Pregnant by their father."
Genesis 19:33-35

Question: A Prophet Of God Getting drunk & Commits Incest???!

"How can you say, 'We are wise, and the law of the LORD is with us'? But, behold, the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie. (From the RSV Bible, Jeremiah 8:8)".

Comment:
Exactly A Very Clear lie!!

Lot Peace be Upon him was one of the great messengers of God, who was metioned in the Quran as a messenger who faught Sexual Immorality,for that was the Message Of every Prophet, to teach people the main message of God Almighty which is Good morals and manners ,Not Incest and How to get Drunk!!!

And (remember) Lût (Lot), when he said to his people: "Do you commit the worst sin such as none preceding you has committed in the 'Alamîn (mankind and jinn)? Quran 7:80

And the answer of his people was only that they said: "Drive them out of your town, these are indeed men who want to be pure (from sins)!"Quran 7:82

27. "If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell.
(From the NIV Bible, Matthew 5:29)"

Comment :
Please If your a Christian Do Not Put this verse into practice , just ask forgivness from God ! and lower your gaze instead!!!



28. "... God Himself is really in love with you!... whoever you may be!... "For the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men" (1Cor.125)...

Question:
Did Paul Just Call God A fool & Weak ?!!!

But anyone who says, 'You fool!' will be in danger of the fire of hell.
(From the NIV Bible, Matthew 5:22)"

Comment:
You cannot Call anyone Fool according to Jesus(pbuh), but Paul Clearly Contradicted that !!!

anyone who blasphemes the name of the LORD must be put to death. The entire assembly must stone him. Leviticus 24:16


Question :
According to the bible anyone who Insults God Must be Stoned to Death , but we see christians had No will to stone Paul(if he were alive), but accept him as an Apostle ??? A Man Who Clearly Insulted God An Apostle (Prophet Of God)???!!


29. Contradictions in the Bible:

700 or 7000 ? "Horsemen or "Footmen" ?
2 Samuel 10:18 vs 1Chronicles 19:18

Solomon had 2000 baths or 3000 baths ?
1 kings 7:26 vs 2 Chronicles 4:5

Solomon had 4000 stalls of horses or 40000?
2 Chronicles 9:25 vs 1 kings 4:26

Did Saul enquire of the Lord or didn't he ?
1Samuels 28:6 vs 1Chronicles 10:13-14

More Contradictions!!!


1. Heaven, no man hath ascended John 3:13

Contradicted by :

2 kings 2:11 Elijah ascended ,

and in Genesis 5:24 Enoch ascended.



2. Jesus lost "None" of his disciples John 18:19

Contradicted by:

He lost only "One" John 17:12

3. "No man hath seen God at any time"John 1:18

Contradicted by :

"And the Lord spake unto Moses face to face,as a man speaketh unto his friend" Exodus 33:11


4. "God whom no man hath seen, nor can see...."

Contradicted by:

"And they(Moses,Aaron and seventy others) Saw the God of Israel..." Exodus 24:1


Is Jesus the Only Son of God?

Contradicted by the Bible that ascribes Sons of God by the tons.

"For as many as are led by the Spirit of God,they are the Sons of God" Romans 8:14

"That the SONS OF GOD saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took wives of all of all which they chose"
Genesis 6:2

"....Thus saith the Lord,Israel is MY SON even my FIRSTBORN" Exodus 4:22

"...and Ephraim is my FIRSTBORN" Jeremiah 31:9

"....Thou (O David) ART MY SON; this day have I(God) BEGOTTEN thee " PSALMS 2:7

EXTRA CONTRADICTIONS
1: In Matthew 4:5-8 the Devil took Jesus to the pinnacle and then to the mountain, while in Luke 4:5-9 he took him to the mountain and then the pinnacle.

2: In Matt. 21:12-19 Jesus cleansed the temple and later cursed the fig tree, while in Mark 11:13-15 he cursed the fig tree and later cleansed the temple.

3: In Matt. 8:28-32 Jesus caused devils to enter swine and later called Levi (Matt. 9:9), while in Luke 5:27-28 Jesus called Levi and later caused devils to enter swine (Luke 8:26-33).

4: In Mark 1:12-13 Jesus was tempted in the wilderness and later John was arrested (Mark 6:17-18), while in Luke 3:19-20 John was arrested and later Jesus was tempted in the wilderness (Luke 4:1-13)

5: In Mark 2:13-17 Matthew was called by Jesus and later the tempest was calmed (Mark 4:35-40), while in Matt. 8:18, 23-27 the tempest was calmed and later Matthew was called (Matt. 9:9-17).

And the long list of Clear Contradictions goes on & on & on &on &on ......


A FINAL ADVICE

To All My Christian Brothers & Sisters ,the Jews Alike,Please do think Quickly before its Too late , and follow the Truth and the light that God has Sent to you with the coming of the Comforter, the Spirit of truth, the Prophet Mohammed (pbuh), that Jesus(pbuh) has promised to come.

Final Question :
How Can Jesus (pbuh) Be God If he was Worshiping God???!

O people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians): "Why do you Mix truth with Falsehood and conceal the truth while you know?"
Quran 3:71



Yes but how old was muhameds youngest wife when they wed?
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Postby rawk » Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:57 am

Sqammers, you're a little tease, I can see your interest, you're a little Satanist at heart! You've peeked at the Satanist website

Lets face it, you wouldn't have to explain all those embarrassing Muslim moments....

Happy Days old buddy.

"I will come to them from before them, and from behind them, and from their right, and from their left, and You will find that most of them are unappreciative." [7:17]

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Re: And the moon is made of green cheese

Postby QAMERSLAND » Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:00 am

Southerner wrote:
QAMERSLAND wrote:southerner you better think what the verses of the bible says instead of making the bible more crupt. may be the language is old but the message is clear for those who want to understand.


I'm glad you said that because that is the point that I have been making, neither the Bible or the korans messages are clear, they are open to so many interpretations because the language that they are written in and the terminology used are totaly ambiguous by todays usage of the so-called written word.

In actual fact both the Bible and koran are a godsend to any budding fanatic.

This was never so brilliantly brought home in the trial of the school teacher in the US who was prosecuted for teaching evolution.
A lawyer had the guts and common sense to stand up to the blinkered, blind faith, religious zealots who insisted that god made the world in seven days etc, etc,etc.


For bible i agree because bible was just for that particular time period and specific people but Quran is for all times.

" i have sent not but for the lost sheeps of Israel" Jesus said himself in the bible

" we not sent you (Muhammad) but mercy for all universe" Quran

you better read all Quran that i can provide you link in English translation but the best is too read in Arabic which is preserved from past 1400 years in its real form.

and after you read come and tell me if you agree with me or not

The Quran has got no version like bible. Quran is only One in the whole universe
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Postby BC Numismatics » Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:04 am

Rawk,you are an idiot! You & the Pope of Rome would get on extremely well - as pals! Both you & the Pope of Rome are heading downstairs into the Lake of Fire in Hell,which is where you will burn up for eternity.

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Re: Last Series of few Questions

Postby Southerner » Thu Jan 17, 2008 2:05 am

QAMERSLAND wrote:
Contradicted by the Bible that ascribes Sons of God by the tons.


Are they metric or imperial 'Tons'?
Surely tons did not exist in Biblical times.
Did allah have tons of sons?
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