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[Stout]

QAMERSLAND, I joined this forum recently in the hope that I would be able to communicate with others worldwide and expand my limited knowledge of what is taking place in other countries.
I have followed your posts with a great deal of interest and must admit that I am shocked at the amount of abuse you have attracted from members in general.
I admire the manner in which you have been able to control your responses, any intelligent person will immediately recognize the fact that your intellect is far superior to those who have and are, trying to antagonize you.
What you have written above, is so true and deserves to be taken on board by all those who have disputed your claims.
As to myself, I am now withdrawing from the forum, I will learn nothing from associating with scum that are so wrapt in their ignorance that they cannot accept any contradiction to their own small mindedness.
I begin to feel ashamed of myself for being part of a society which has bred such obvious ignorance, they are to be pitied for their lack of respect to a person like yourself.
In the Bible there is an apt quote referring to "Casting pearls among the swine", I think that may well describe what you are currently in the process of doing, it would appear that you have found an eager pen in which to cast them.
I am not of your faith, that does not give me the right to condemn it, whatever faith the above Swine may follow, I think they will find it is hardly acceptable to adopt such ignorance as a platform for their own views.
Good luck in your quest QAMERSLAND, I envy you your strength of character..........Andy.

[cyprusgrump]

Andy,

Do you post on another forum as 'Andy Mac'?

[Stout]

Andy,

Do you post on another forum as 'Andy Mac'?

No cyprusgrump, I have not posted on any other forums other than this one, I thought I would enjoy some contact with those that do, I must say I am very disappointed with what I have experienced here.
I have no experience with this type of communication and am shocked at what I have seen of it, when my children return from school I will instruct them to discontinue my involvement with the forum.
Best wishes to all members, nothing personal, I just do not fit in I suppose.....Andy.

[Southerner]

[i can also tell you to fix your house before maligning Islam and can put you prove from Bible that you may not be able to answer as well as dark sides of your society but i am not here to discuss the differences but similarities. Lets see what are the similarities in Islam and Christianity.

We didn't come here promoting Christianity it is you who came here promoting islam.
With all the disgusting things that are going on by muslims in muslim countries you should be preaching to them not us. You don't honestly think that we would give up what we have in favour of reverting to morons who rant and riot at every verse end and begining, to many of us islam is renta mob

Put your own house in order the come back and preach to us

I am here not only to put my house but all world in order. there are more disgusting things happening in the non muslims countries but you are putting finger on us to hide dark sides of your societies.
thousands of rape happening in your countries which international media do not highlight as if few cases happen in the muslim countries and they highlight days and weeks continuously.
women is being used for sex and pleasure and they are used to expose their bodies to promote products. you found new born babies in the garbage bins and made centers now where people can leave new born babies.
most of wrong going on in muslim countries are because of injustice behavior of non Muslim countries who are controlling the world economy and politics. you have double standards,double faces and double policies.
you are selfish people who have killed 100 s of thousands innocent Muslims people in Afghanistan, Iraq and Palestine and then ask why there are suicide bombers.
have you ever thought that you are the responsible for it?
you will naver accept the fact because you are selfish and just see that if your house is safe and you don't care that there are people suffering in the world and paying the price of your luxurious life?

Nobody forces western women to use their bodies to promote products nor will they get stoned or have their brains blown out for doing so (while it is a free democracy).

I ask you once again where were you when Saddam Hussain was carrying out his attroities against his own people; where he was responsible for over 1 million muslim deaths including women and children?

Women are being used more for sex objects in the middle east than anywhere else in the world, domestic staff from south east asia are sexualy abused with the support and protection of islam in the middle east on a regular basis but they get the blame not the abusers.

Regarding suicide bombers 99% of suicide bombers are targeting muslims not westerners, every day there is an incidents in iraq where children and women are slaughtered by suicide bombers, these muslim morons are directed by muslim clerics in the name of allah.

Irepeat put your own house in order

[Southerner]

Sorry double post

[Tim Drayton]

A few Questions Needs Thought More than Answer from Every Christian...


1. In Matthew chapter 15, verse 24:
Christ told his disciples: “I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”


Question:
The Message is Limited to the Children Of Israel ,so why do you follow a message which is not meant for you ?

2. MARK 12:29-34 —
And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord....

..........Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he



Question:
Did you read that?.... none other but he?!

Question:
Jesus has said clearly that Our God is One So why do you divide God into three ?

Common sense says 1+1+1 = 3 Not 1

Please take a moment of thought with these words
Our God is One "1"

3. ‘Why do you call me Good? Jesus Answered ‘No One is Good- Except God Alone”
(From the NIV Bible, Mark 10:18)


"AND Jesus said unto him, WHY CALLEST THOU ME GOOD? there is NONE GOOD BUT ONE, THAT IS GOD...." MATTHEW 19:16-17

Question :
So I also ask "Why" do you Call Jesus God if he DID NOT accept being called GOOD ?!!

And Why do Call Jesus God? if he said "None is Good but the ONE, THAT IS GOD...." Not Jesus(pbuh), Not The Holy Spirit.... But The One good God!!

4. "...This is Jesus the prophet of Nazareth of Galilee." (Matthew 21:11)

"..Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people" (Luke 24:19:).

Question:
Jesus is clearly represented as a Prophet , So why do you call him God?!

5. Jesus said: "I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I." (Jn.14:28).

Jesus said; "Truly, truly, I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master; neither is the one who is sent greater than the one who sent him."
(John 13:16).

Question:
How can you Put Jesus in the level Of God, but even go far to say he's God himself, when he (Jesus) clearly says that the father who sent him is greater than him ?

6." I can of mine own self DO NOTHING...."
(JOHN 5:30)

Question :
Can a God Be Powerless ?

7."....(Jesus) saith, I THIRST ."
John 19:28

Question :
Did i read that right A THIRSTY GOD ?


8." Jesus WEPT ." John 11:35

Question :
A WEEPING (CRYING) God?!!!


When he was Eight days old he was circumcised ,and named Jesus by the angel when he was in his mothers womb. Luke 2:21

Question :
A Baby God ?!!!! 8 days old?!!!!!!!!!


Question :
A God being Circumcised ?!!!!!!!


Question:
Why don't Christians circumcise their males, if their claimed (Jewish) God himself was Circumcised? Oh! by the way, Jesus(pbuh) was a Jewish Man!!


Question :
A God confined to a womb & attached to a placenta?!!!!!!!!!

Comment:
1% brain power is only need to answer these question!!


Some Christians claim that Jesus had No father , so his father is God !!!

Question :
Eve peace be Upon her had No Mother so does that make God her Mother?


Question:
Adam peace be upon him had NO father and NO mother so does that make him A Bigger God???!


Verily, the likeness of 'Isâ (Jesus) before Allâh is the likeness of Adam. He created him from dust, then (He) said to him: "Be!" - and he was.
Quran 3:59

9. "The Son Shall not bear the inquity of the father...."
(Ezekiel 18:20)

Question:
The verse clearly says that the Sin is not inherited So why do you believe in Original Sin? and Why should I inherit the Sin of My Parents if I Did Not comit their Sin ?

What Sin did I Commit ?!

NOT ORIGINAL SIN BUT ORIGINAL FORGIVNESS!!!


10. "......every man shall receive his own reward.....to his own labour"
(1 Corinthians 3:8)

Question :
According to the verse every man is going to Judged according to his own Work in this life ,so where does believing in trinity or in the claimed cross stand ?or the cross salivation theory: Sin hanger,Pre-Paid Sin!! stand ?!

and what happens to the nations who never knew Jesus(pbuh) i.e those who were worshiping the One unique Creator,before even Jesus(pbuh) was born, how would they get salivation from Hell?!!


And wouldn't it be unfair for the people who worshiped other gods with god & were Cursed by God,to enter the hell fire,For the same crime that many Christians do today?! in worshiping Jesus(pbuh) with God?!! And what was the use then of all the Prophets(peace be upon them all) whos main message was to"Worship God Alone"?!!

MARK 12:29-34 —
And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord....


Surely, they have disbelieved who say: "Allâh is the Messiah ('Isâ (Jesus)) son of Maryam (Mary)." But the Messiah ('Isâ (Jesus)) said: "O Children of Israel! Worship Allâh, my Lord and your Lord." Verily, whosoever sets up partners (in worship) with Allâh, then Allâh has forbidden Paradise to him, and the Fire will be his abode. And for the Zâlimûn (polytheists and wrong-doers) there are no helpers.
Quran 5:72





Surely, disbelievers are those who said: "Allâh is the third of the three (in a Trinity)." But there is no Iilâh (god) (none who has the right to be worshipped) but One Ilâh (God -Allâh). And if they cease not from what they say, verily, a painful torment will befall on the disbelievers among them.
Quran 5:73


Deuteronomy 13:6-9 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people."

2
Chronicles 15:13 "All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman."

Question :
The Old Testament that every Jew & Christian believes in, forbids strictly Worshiping other gods, except the God of Israel, so how come Christians Worship a human- Jesus(pbuh)?!...this is a LOAD!!! contradiction to the teachings of the Old testament that they Should believe in!!!


"Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to abolish the Law (the Old Testament) or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
(Matthew 5:17)



Verily, those who disbelieve in Allâh and His Messengers and wish to make distinction between Allâh and His Messengers (by believing in Allâh and disbelieving in His Messengers) saying, "We believe in some but reject others," and wish to adopt a way in between.
Quran 4:150

Good post!
I agree with you for once. Christianity is as riddled with nonsense and contradictions as Islam is.

[QAMERSLAND]

QAMERSLAND, I joined this forum recently in the hope that I would be able to communicate with others worldwide and expand my limited knowledge of what is taking place in other countries.
I have followed your posts with a great deal of interest and must admit that I am shocked at the amount of abuse you have attracted from members in general.
I admire the manner in which you have been able to control your responses, any intelligent person will immediately recognize the fact that your intellect is far superior to those who have and are, trying to antagonize you.
What you have written above, is so true and deserves to be taken on board by all those who have disputed your claims.
As to myself, I am now withdrawing from the forum, I will learn nothing from associating with scum that are so wrapt in their ignorance that they cannot accept any contradiction to their own small mindedness.
I begin to feel ashamed of myself for being part of a society which has bred such obvious ignorance, they are to be pitied for their lack of respect to a person like yourself.
In the Bible there is an apt quote referring to "Casting pearls among the swine", I think that may well describe what you are currently in the process of doing, it would appear that you have found an eager pen in which to cast them.
I am not of your faith, that does not give me the right to condemn it, whatever faith the above Swine may follow, I think they will find it is hardly acceptable to adopt such ignorance as a platform for their own views.
Good luck in your quest QAMERSLAND, I envy you your strength of character..........Andy.

Thank you Andy. i will continue my mission to safe humanity from the destruction and punishment which they cant see with their eyes.

I had left the forum once before because of the same reason that you have decided to leave.

Wish you to have good time with your kids and i am sure that you have taught manners to your kids how to behave well.

People like you who witness the truth will have their reward in hereafter and i pray for you.

My humble request to you to read Quran as it is the best book on the face of the earth in my opinion.

Take care

May peace and mercy of God be on you

[QAMERSLAND]

A few Questions Needs Thought More than Answer from Every Christian...


1. In Matthew chapter 15, verse 24:
Christ told his disciples: “I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”


Question:
The Message is Limited to the Children Of Israel ,so why do you follow a message which is not meant for you ?

2. MARK 12:29-34 —
And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord....

..........Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he



Question:
Did you read that?.... none other but he?!

Question:
Jesus has said clearly that Our God is One So why do you divide God into three ?

Common sense says 1+1+1 = 3 Not 1

Please take a moment of thought with these words
Our God is One "1"

3. ‘Why do you call me Good? Jesus Answered ‘No One is Good- Except God Alone”
(From the NIV Bible, Mark 10:18)


"AND Jesus said unto him, WHY CALLEST THOU ME GOOD? there is NONE GOOD BUT ONE, THAT IS GOD...." MATTHEW 19:16-17

Question :
So I also ask "Why" do you Call Jesus God if he DID NOT accept being called GOOD ?!!

And Why do Call Jesus God? if he said "None is Good but the ONE, THAT IS GOD...." Not Jesus(pbuh), Not The Holy Spirit.... But The One good God!!

4. "...This is Jesus the prophet of Nazareth of Galilee." (Matthew 21:11)

"..Jesus of Nazareth, which was a prophet mighty in deed and word before God and all the people" (Luke 24:19:).

Question:
Jesus is clearly represented as a Prophet , So why do you call him God?!

5. Jesus said: "I go to the Father; for the Father is greater than I." (Jn.14:28).

Jesus said; "Truly, truly, I say to you, a slave is not greater than his master; neither is the one who is sent greater than the one who sent him."
(John 13:16).

Question:
How can you Put Jesus in the level Of God, but even go far to say he's God himself, when he (Jesus) clearly says that the father who sent him is greater than him ?

6." I can of mine own self DO NOTHING...."
(JOHN 5:30)

Question :
Can a God Be Powerless ?

7."....(Jesus) saith, I THIRST ."
John 19:28

Question :
Did i read that right A THIRSTY GOD ?


8." Jesus WEPT ." John 11:35

Question :
A WEEPING (CRYING) God?!!!


When he was Eight days old he was circumcised ,and named Jesus by the angel when he was in his mothers womb. Luke 2:21

Question :
A Baby God ?!!!! 8 days old?!!!!!!!!!


Question :
A God being Circumcised ?!!!!!!!


Question:
Why don't Christians circumcise their males, if their claimed (Jewish) God himself was Circumcised? Oh! by the way, Jesus(pbuh) was a Jewish Man!!


Question :
A God confined to a womb & attached to a placenta?!!!!!!!!!

Comment:
1% brain power is only need to answer these question!!


Some Christians claim that Jesus had No father , so his father is God !!!

Question :
Eve peace be Upon her had No Mother so does that make God her Mother?


Question:
Adam peace be upon him had NO father and NO mother so does that make him A Bigger God???!


Verily, the likeness of 'Isâ (Jesus) before Allâh is the likeness of Adam. He created him from dust, then (He) said to him: "Be!" - and he was.
Quran 3:59

9. "The Son Shall not bear the inquity of the father...."
(Ezekiel 18:20)

Question:
The verse clearly says that the Sin is not inherited So why do you believe in Original Sin? and Why should I inherit the Sin of My Parents if I Did Not comit their Sin ?

What Sin did I Commit ?!

NOT ORIGINAL SIN BUT ORIGINAL FORGIVNESS!!!


10. "......every man shall receive his own reward.....to his own labour"
(1 Corinthians 3:8)

Question :
According to the verse every man is going to Judged according to his own Work in this life ,so where does believing in trinity or in the claimed cross stand ?or the cross salivation theory: Sin hanger,Pre-Paid Sin!! stand ?!

and what happens to the nations who never knew Jesus(pbuh) i.e those who were worshiping the One unique Creator,before even Jesus(pbuh) was born, how would they get salivation from Hell?!!


And wouldn't it be unfair for the people who worshiped other gods with god & were Cursed by God,to enter the hell fire,For the same crime that many Christians do today?! in worshiping Jesus(pbuh) with God?!! And what was the use then of all the Prophets(peace be upon them all) whos main message was to"Worship God Alone"?!!

MARK 12:29-34 —
And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord....


Surely, they have disbelieved who say: "Allâh is the Messiah ('Isâ (Jesus)) son of Maryam (Mary)." But the Messiah ('Isâ (Jesus)) said: "O Children of Israel! Worship Allâh, my Lord and your Lord." Verily, whosoever sets up partners (in worship) with Allâh, then Allâh has forbidden Paradise to him, and the Fire will be his abode. And for the Zâlimûn (polytheists and wrong-doers) there are no helpers.
Quran 5:72





Surely, disbelievers are those who said: "Allâh is the third of the three (in a Trinity)." But there is no Iilâh (god) (none who has the right to be worshipped) but One Ilâh (God -Allâh). And if they cease not from what they say, verily, a painful torment will befall on the disbelievers among them.
Quran 5:73


Deuteronomy 13:6-9 "If your very own brother, or your son or daughter, or the wife you love, or your closest friend secretly entices you, saying: Let us go and worship other gods (gods that neither you nor your fathers have known, gods of the peoples around you, whether near or far, from one end of the land to the other, or gods of other religions), do not yield to him or listen to him. Show him no pity. Do not spare him or shield him. You must certainly put him to death. Your hand must be the first in putting him to death, and then the hands of all the people."

2
Chronicles 15:13 "All who would not seek the LORD, the God of Israel, were to be put to death, whether small or great, man or woman."

Question :
The Old Testament that every Jew & Christian believes in, forbids strictly Worshiping other gods, except the God of Israel, so how come Christians Worship a human- Jesus(pbuh)?!...this is a LOAD!!! contradiction to the teachings of the Old testament that they Should believe in!!!


"Do not think that I [Jesus] have come to abolish the Law (the Old Testament) or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
(Matthew 5:17)



Verily, those who disbelieve in Allâh and His Messengers and wish to make distinction between Allâh and His Messengers (by believing in Allâh and disbelieving in His Messengers) saying, "We believe in some but reject others," and wish to adopt a way in between.
Quran 4:150

Good post!
I agree with you for once. Christianity is as riddled with nonsense and contradictions as Islam is.

" Do not the unbelievers Consider the Quran with Care, there would have been many contradictions if it were from other than Allah(God)" The Quran

[Tim Drayton]

Verses 17:45 and 46 of the Quran, which you believe to be the literal word of God, read:

"When thou dost recite the Qur’an, We put, between thee and those who believe not in the Hereafter, a veil invisible:
And We put coverings over their hearts (and minds) lest they should understand the Qur’an, and deafness into their ears: when thou dost commemorate thy Lord and Him alone in the Qur’an, they turn on their backs, fleeing (from the Truth)."

So, why, when God tells you that you are wasting your time, do you recite the Quran to me?

[Piratis]

i will continue my mission to safe humanity from the destruction and punishment which they cant see with their eyes.

So you want people not to believe their eyes and to believe you instead?

Humanity can not be "saved", but at least we could be living in a less stupid world if people finally got some common sense and logic instead of believing in fairy tales about Gods and similar nonsense.